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Started by Icephoenyx, December 19, 2011, 09:08:17 PM

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Bishounen

Quote from: Re: Joyce on January 12, 2012, 04:53:32 AM
     

       Her actual quote from her website has different words in bold than your quote:

      " Genital electrolysis is not required for any surgical operation performed by Dr. McGinn, though it is highly recommended."
It doesn't have different wording, you have merely highlighted a different section of the very same sentence that I posted earlier on. ::)




     
QuoteI wanted to clarify Dr. McGinn's position, since you cited her as a source for your information.   

       If Dr. McGinn felt it was important, believe me, she would say so and she downplayed it's importance.
It is not important for people to regulary shower and wash themselves either, however it is recommended.
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Assoluta

QuoteReminds me, by the way, of an MTF by the name of Claudia, that after her SRS in 1986, one day had a very yucky experience;

For a second I thought you were talking about me, as that is my name, although I then realised I was not even born in 1986  :D

I did, however have 2 years worth of genital electrolysis - I had James Bellringer as my surgeon, and Charing Cross have become more strict on insisting on hair removal in the desire area for the scrotal inlay technique, as the scrotal tissue effectively becomes the lining of the vagina. They do not require it, however for the penile inversion technique.
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Sarah B

Hi Bishounen

In your reply to my comments you state:

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMIndeed true, but, all the surgeons, except for Suporn, also states that they cannot guarantee that they will get all the hairfollicles, and therefore Eletrolysis is, if the patient wants to be on the safe side, a must.
From Dr Suporn's website and the section on Electrolysis.

QuotePrior genital electrolysis is not required. Permanent genital depilation is unnecessary,  expensive and uncomfortable. All hair follicles are manually excised (cut) from the scrotal skin during surgery, and will not grow subsequently. A hair-free vaginal lining is guaranteed. Prior electrolysis of the scrotal area may result in scarring and thickening of the skin which could reduce its elasticity and vaginal depth. If desired, only the perineal region (perineum) between the anus to the scrotum should be cleared (which can also be cleared after SRS).
It is commendable that Dr Suporn will guarantee that the vagina will be hair free, however if you note, 'hair follicles are manually excised' and there in lies the problem.  It is possible that hair follicles will be missed.  Therefore it can not be totally guaranteed and it remains possible that some hairs could remain using Dr Suporn's technique.

Having electrolysis is not necessary (or a must) and the only reason is to allay the fears of those under going surgery.  All of the Surgeons mentioned so far all use scrapping, cauterizing or excising of the follicles regardless of whether electrolysis has been carried out down below or not.  It is up to the individual if they decide that electrolysis is a must for themselves.

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMIndeed, some surgeons do not feel this is necessary, as the majority of the hair nowadays will be removed during the surgey. However, for best result, Eletrolysis is recommended.
'Best result' how do you know this? Can you site peer reviewed papers that site the number of post operative patients who have had electrolysis and 'scrapping' (and other methods) compared with those who have just had scrapping alone?  Best result is just your opinion and of course the surgeons recommending this particular approach.

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMCompletely incorrect. Firstly, Genital Eletcrolysis, when done right, is 100% permanent, simply because the hairfollicles are litterally fried.
I agree with you that electrolysis is 100% permanent.  If and only if the hair follicles are literally destroyed.  First there are 3 stages to hair growth and the third stage, the resting or telogen phase no hair is growing and hence the electrologist will not be able to destroy that hair follicle, secondly if the hair follicle is not completely destroyed then hairs can still grow back, albeit finer and therefore harder to see and hence not be able to locate the hair follicle so that it can be destroyed.

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMHowever, actually frying the hairfolicles, is nowadays only done regarding Genital Eletrolysis- Not facial or bodily, as frying them may leave scarring. However, as scarring in the vaginal canal is not visible, such an issue is not considered a problem.
You may consider it 'not a problem', but others may and if scarring is the result of genital electrolysis, I would seriously be seeking another electrologist.

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMGood for you. However you are a single patient- not a patient in a metastudie, and do as such not examplify the norm in this regards, therefore, your personal account is not sufficient. Although, ofcourse, I do congratulate you on the success.
Yes, I'm just one example and there are many others, again how do you know I'm not the norm? Do you have the numbers on those who have had electrolysis and those who did not?  My account is sufficient so that others are made aware of what is possible in regards to surgery.

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMWell even the old scandal surgeon John Brown scraped the tissue- Some of his patients were lucky and had no problem whatsoever, while other were stuck with hairy bearpussys.
Then Dr John Brown did not do the procedure correctly.

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMWhich reasoning do you think is the smartest regarding a permanent decision like this; Spending some extra money on electrolysis to be 100% on the safe side and not ever having to worry the slightest about it, or, being stubborn and think;"There will not be any problem because my surgeon will take care of it!".
Both I and Steffi know which reasoning is the smart one and which is the stupid one.
Again show me the peer reviewed studies that electrolysis and scrapping is better than scrapping alone.  Then and only then, will I make an informed decision on what I believe is the best method.

The ad hominem attacks you used in the above quote and using them on me, into thinking one method is better than another without actual proof is pointless and futile.

Quote from: Bishounen on January 12, 2012, 09:30:36 AMThe expression "Better safe than sorry", is in this regards very fitting.
No it's not.  All well and good if you want to play upon people's emotions.  Yes I know its their happiness and contentment that is at stake and as mentioned before it is up to the person deciding what course of action they take.  Right or wrong it is their choice and their choice alone.  You have not shown that the chances of adverse consequences is significantly higher or any worse when 'scrapping or cauterizing the tissue' is used.  Individuals need to hear both sides of these particular issue, both positive and negative consequences of the methods involved so that they can finally decide what is the best method to be used for themselves.

We only hear of those people who have hair problems and even then we do not know what procedures they went through.  As has been stated before it is recommended that one has electrolysis and not "its an absolute requirement' for having surgery.

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Steffi

Final and irrefutable logical word on this subject.
There ARE some people who have hair growing inside their vagina and have a big problem with it.  This is undeniable - I have met some and seen several posts from others.

Explain HOW that hair got there then?

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KillBelle

Simply put...just do not get a vagina if hair is growing in there, screw it...save your money and get to a doctor that can guarantee a nice moist environment for your girls. Suporn did that for me, no hair in there.
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Julie Wilson

A nice moist environment for your girls, I don't understand...  ???

I had SRS with Bowers and I was not happy with my results.  I do have a couple of hairs growing in there and I know because I used a flashlight, a mirror and one of those vaginal examination, spreader thingees.  There weren't many, like maybe two or three. 
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