What does estrogen make cisgender men feel like?

[Alyx.]

Anybody know? Are they depressed or do they feel good on it? Give me details, I'm curious.

[justmeinoz]

If you are trans, it's great! 
If not, it apparently can make you feel edgy, generally out of sorts, or severely depressed.  NOT RECOMMENDED without medical supervision.

[Keaira]

I know a person who was taking it for a bit, self medicating. He quit after I talked him out of it But I remember him saying he didn't like how it made him feel. He isn't trans, he just wants breasts. So I'll ask him what exactly he was feeling. Oh yea, he has the hots for me too. -_-

[Joelene9]

  To us who are transisitioning or not, it varies.  There is a sort of a calming effect that there is something finally done with our condition.
  To those men who are taking them for prostate and testicular cancers, it is a life saving form of treatment.  Usually they are over 70 when these men take estrogen for that as they do not worry about their self image as they did when they are younger.  The younger non-TS men will get anxiety over the effects.  One was on this forum about 6 months ago and has testicular cancer spread in his body during his teens, his father died of the same thing.  They had given him an orchie as a treatment and given him the full HRT regimen.  He said that he was never allowed to develop as a teenage boy and has the shape of a female and cannot take any androgens.  He was deciding whether to look and live as a female because of this even though he feels like that he's still a boy. 
  It is the mindset at the beginning that helps with the HRT treatment before any treatment starts.  I seen some non transisitioners take it a lot better than what I've read on some members' threads in this forum the past year.  For myself getting on HRT at age 58 for prostate problems and my GID, it was a relief.  It has got rid of my depression and the long deep mood swings, but in some of the others, the opposite occurs in the first year on HRT.  I have gotten more things done I needed to do this past year than I did for a long time mainly because of the emotional relief. 
  Joelene

[Alyx.]

  To us who are transisitioning or not, it varies.  There is a sort of a calming effect that there is something finally done with our condition.
  To those men who are taking them for prostate and testicular cancers, it is a life saving form of treatment.  Usually they are over 70 when these men take estrogen for that as they do not worry about their self image as they did when they are younger.  The younger non-TS men will get anxiety over the effects.  One was on this forum about 6 months ago and has testicular cancer spread in his body during his teens, his father died of the same thing.  They had given him an orchie as a treatment and given him the full HRT regimen.  He said that he was never allowed to develop as a teenage boy and has the shape of a female and cannot take any androgens.  He was deciding whether to look and live as a female because of this even though he feels like that he's still a boy. 
  It is the mindset at the beginning that helps with the HRT treatment before any treatment starts.  I seen some non transisitioners take it a lot better than what I've read on some members' threads in this forum the past year.  For myself getting on HRT at age 58 for prostate problems and my GID, it was a relief.  It has got rid of my depression and the long deep mood swings, but in some of the others, the opposite occurs in the first year on HRT.  I have gotten more things done I needed to do this past year than I did for a long time mainly because of the emotional relief. 
  Joelene

I know what that's like, before I felt like ass.

Transgender boys can join in too I guess, just specify if you are or not.

[Joelene9]

I know what that's like, before I felt like ass.

Yes, after the carrot and stick treatment that was given me in the past.  I was told by the physicians that to wait a little longer and that these feelings I had will go away.  Hee Haw!
  Joelene

[stldrmgrl]

What does estrogen make cisgender men feel like?

I do not understand the question.
The majority of male-to-female transsexuals are cisgender male, are we not? 

Are you speaking in terms of being trans?  Or are you asking in terms of a non-trans cisgender male taking estrogen?
Again, I am confused.

[pidgeontoed]

If I recall correctly, isn't the prefix cis- the latin opposite of trans- ? So, it would imply non-trans males in my understanding. I think of it this way, us as transpeople have the exact same thing happening to us where we have the incorrect hormones for the beginnings of our lives. So it seems to me that the reaction would be as varied as the occurrence of depression, anxiety, etc. in transpeople. Some have it, some do not.

[stldrmgrl]

If I recall correctly, isn't the prefix cis- the latin opposite of trans- ? So, it would imply non-trans males in my understanding. I think of it this way, us as transpeople have the exact same thing happening to us where we have the incorrect hormones for the beginnings of our lives. So it seems to me that the reaction would be as varied as the occurrence of depression, anxiety, etc. in transpeople. Some have it, some do not.

Perhaps - that would certainly make sense.
I was always under the impression that cis referred to biological.
But you could be correct, as I really have no idea.

[pebbles]

It's an intresting question. And I'm curious about it too... Many men I know seem pretty horrified and unimpressed at the idea of me offering them estrogen. Dunno if that's some innate aversion or them just seeing what happened to me and thinking they REALLY don't want that to happen to them.

Their is one exception a 100% gay male friend who still happens to be obsessed with breasts sexually and otherwise (a trait notably at odds with the rest of his sexual identity) who seems to show some curiosity about what would happen to him if he did.

@ Aymzie
No we are not. The presence of Gender dysphora is what makes us different in that regard, and (Presumably) causes a radically different emotional and neurological reaction when we are exposed to female hormones.

In theory if gender dysphora is caused by a reversal of some kind of sexual dismorphism in the brain then it would make a Cis-Male feel like a Pre-T FTM, ie very unpleasant...and Heartwood would be better off asking the FTM's this question.

I am curious to hear more about Keaira's friend and the effect it had on him. I've heard of men like that who experiment with it for such ends but never spoken to one personally.

[stldrmgrl]

Thanks pebbles and pidgeontoed for the explanations; I was truly confused and appreciate the clarity.

[Anatta]

Kia Ora,

You would really need to ask a cisgender male...One can only speculate on how they would feel...For all we know they could become real 'bitchy' 

It's also important to remember that some trans-women are clinically depressed and even when on HRT still have bouts of depression...Hrt may help relieve depression in some, but  from what I gather it's not always a 'total' cure... So one should keep this in mind...

Metta Zenda

[caseyyy]

It would be interesting to point out that cisgender women, in the absence of a small amount of testosterone (usually produced by the adrenal glands and some by the ovaries,  believe) can be very depressed. So even if someone is "meant" to have estrogen in them, they can still be depressed if it completely dominates.