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Started by Cindy, January 19, 2012, 02:19:16 AM

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justmeinoz

Churches are one thing.  lunatics with PA's are another.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Cindy

And the churches are mainly empty
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Anatta

Quote from: Cindy James on January 27, 2012, 12:54:26 AM
And the churches are mainly empty

Kia Ora Cindy,

::) Well thank god for that  ;) ;D No wait ! Does this mean they are all out on the streets preaching ? Bugger !  ;) ;D

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Cindy

They were recently in Victor Harbour and preaching outside of a tattoo shop; seemingly it is against God's Will to have tattoos (I haven't found it in the bible, but again I haven't looked), after awhile the owner had enough and threw buckets of water over them. Rumour has it the water had been passed by management and any one else he could get contributions from. >:-)
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Anatta

Quote from: Cindy James on January 27, 2012, 01:02:15 AM
They were recently in Victor Harbour and preaching outside of a tattoo shop; seemingly it is against God's Will to have tattoos (I haven't found it in the bible, but again I haven't looked), after awhile the owner had enough and threw buckets of water over them. Rumour has it the water had been passed by management and any one else he could get contributions from. >:-)
Kia Ora Cindy,

::) Were they preaching or just 'taking' the 'piss'  ;) ;D

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Annah

Quote from: Zenda on January 27, 2012, 12:10:40 AM
Kia Ora Annah,

BTW[Not to rub salt into wounded pride] but he is not  really what one would call a street preacher he's what's called an 'anti street preacher' protesting against street preachers... read the full article to see what I mean...

I read the full article and he declares himself as an Atheist Street Preacher. You wanted proof because you believe there are no Atheist Street Preachers. I showed you numerous examples and the main issue is you cannot admit you may be wrong about this.

Quote::) BTW I must say Annah, I have seen in some of your posts you often become quite frustrated I don't just mean with myself[It's water off a duck's back for me] but with other members too...At times it would seem you lack patience and the ability to control your emotions, and tend to become frustrated very easily...I hope this doesn't show when you are preaching to your congregation on Sundays...You do still preach don't you ?

I go by an adage when it comes to religions of all faiths and non religions and that is "Co Exist."

When I see people of various religious faiths and various agnostic and atheist faiths who act like they have all the answers and refuse to see the contrary of the argument they present I do get frustrated.  Religious people throughout history has often used fear, anger, and unreasoning to promote their beliefs. Likewise, I have seen some atheists do the same thing.

At the same time, I have encountered wonderful people who embrace their spiritual beliefs and I have met wonderful people who are atheists and agnostics.

When I see someone who places all spiritual people into one group, I get frustrated. When I see someone who places all atheist people into one group, I get frustrated. To me, that is no different than a form of stereotypical racism; people like to clump others into one group because refusing to recognize the fact that there are myriads of different people (atheists and spiritual people alike) is too much work and is a sign of social laziness. Its easy to hate one group of spiritual people than it is to work out the fact that there are a wide diverse of people within that same spiritual influence.

So, if I sound frustrated at you, it is because I am. It is no different than someone making fun of the Polish saying they're all stupid or making fun of blacks because they're all thieves. It's unfair to them.

The reason why I joined into this conversation is because it is very easy to make fun of a sect of street preachers that annoys us and group them into one religion but when I introduce the fact that there are atheists who do the same thing, you try to come up with excuses or other plausible explanations to dismiss the people you stand up for.

I do not like forceful street preachers either; however, what makes me different is the fact that I do not like street preachers who proselytize or make fun or condemn others for having a different belief...and that includes any group....including atheists or any other person.

There is no other reason why I should post in this thread. It would make no difference to convince you that you are wrong. It's like an argument about evolution vs creationism or any other religious or philosophical differences where the arguments are limitless.

And yes, I still preach. The church I am part of isn't exclusively Christian. We have Pagans, we have Christians, we have Jews, we have Humanists, we have Atheists, and many more. We have a genuine respect for each other and each others beliefs. Which is contrary to what I see here. People jump on a bandwagon and just love to pick on others without the concern of others.

When people make fun of transgender diversity here they get banned. When you see moderators make fun of Christians or other spiritual people, they get a pat on the back.
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Cindy

Quote from Annah:

When you see moderators make fun of Christians or other spiritual people, they get a pat on the back. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,114178.msg877354/topicseen.html#msg877354


If you have incidents when this has occurred or does occur report it immediately to Forum Admin or Susan.

I can assure you that the standards expected from Mods is far higher than expected for standard members.

Please report such incidents ASAP. They will be investigated.

Cindy James
Global Moderator

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Anatta

Quote from: Annah on January 27, 2012, 01:20:08 AM
I read the full article and he declares himself as an Atheist Street Preacher. You wanted proof!

::) I guess I must have missed when he calls himself an 'Atheist Street Preacher'[I read it again and still couldn't find it ]

The reason why I joined into this conversation is because it is very easy to make fun of a sect of street preachers that annoys us and group them into one religion but when I introduce the fact that there are atheists who do the same thing, you try to come up with excuses or other plausible explanations to dismiss the people you stand up for.

::) Annah have you appointing yourself chief Moral enforcer of this thread ? I have to smile when you continue to label me the villain and attack me...Not that I'm really bothered...

I do not like forceful street preachers either; however, what makes me different is the fact that I do not like street preachers who proselytize or make fun or condemn others for having a different belief...and that includes any group....including atheists or any other person.

::) So are you saying  you 'are' better than other members here who have posted comments ?

There is no other reason why I should post in this thread. It would make no difference to convince you that you are wrong. It's like an argument about evolution vs creationism or any other religious or philosophical differences where the arguments are limitless.

::) Annah you really do make me laugh at times with your "I'm always right" 'righteousness'... ::) "Butter wouldn't melt in my mouth!"

And yes, I still preach. The church I am part of isn't exclusively Christian. We have Pagans, we have Christians, we have Jews, we have Humanists, we have Atheists, and many more. We have a genuine respect for each other and each others beliefs. Which is contrary to what I see here. People jump on a bandwagon and just love to pick on others.

::) Well Amen sister ! But I'm not quite sure how a person whose openly 'Atheist' would attend a church service and of all things 'worship', it's somewhat of an oxymoron don't you think ? Or are you saying the church is just a place where different groups get together and for want of a better term 'gossip' ?  [And before you start to point the finger "Gossip has also been identified by Robin Dunbar, an evolutionary biologist, as aiding social bonding in large groups!"]

::) Annah you do tend to come across as wanting to be a serious authority figure[I'm right you're all wrong because I have a doctorate and I preach in a church] ... Might I be so bold as to suggest you "Chill out" relax, enjoy life and most importantly don't take it[or yourself ] too seriously ![I don't take you seriously]  ;) ;D 



Kia Ora Annah,

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Cindy

Dear Zenda,

You are not listed as a Mod. Have I the wrong information?

Cindy
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kelly_aus

Quote from: Zenda on January 27, 2012, 12:43:40 AM
Kia Ora Karen,

::) Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Adelaide "The City Of Churches"...

Metta Zenda  :)

Not any more.. A lot of them are now pubs or restaurants..

I had a little run in with one today.. He started to look fearful when my mum turned on him and suggested that if he didn't take his ignorance and bigotry somewhere else, she'd shove his microphone somewhere he'd find very uncomfortable..  ;)
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Anatta

Quote from: Cindy James on January 27, 2012, 02:29:37 AM
Dear Zenda,

You are not listed as a Mod. Have I the wrong information?

Cindy

Kia Ora Cindy,

::) No I'm not a Mod, but I do think Annah's a bit frustrated with me and it's possible it's just her way of expressing/venting her frustration...

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Cindy

 :police:

OK let everyone cool down.

The OP was about a group of bigots in Adelaide who have managed to form a power base from their bigotry.

People values are peoples values and I do not and never will question them unless asked to.

Zenda and Annah I think your discussion is going no where, so lets move on.
Cindy
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tekla

Atheist "blow dried" themselves off on their stage as a symbol of reversing their water baptism.

Wow, some people have a lot of time on their hands don't they? 
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Anatta

Quote from: kelly_aus on January 27, 2012, 02:32:48 AM
Not any more.. A lot of them are now pubs or restaurants..

I had a little run in with one today.. He started to look fearful when my mum turned on him and suggested that if he didn't take his ignorance and bigotry somewhere else, she'd shove his microphone somewhere he'd find very uncomfortable..  ;)
Kia Ora Kelly,

::) Ah there is a god and miracles do happen s/he/it has turned churches into places that really serve a purpose ! ;) ;D

::) Good on your mother for standing up for you...

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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tekla

has turned churches into places that really serve a purpose

The Catholic Church - in order to pay off lawsuits stemming from PedoPriests - has sold several churches in SF.  They have been bought by the Academy of Art and are used as schools and galleries.

Ars longa, vita brevis
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Anatta

Quote from: tekla on January 27, 2012, 06:43:05 AM
has turned churches into places that really serve a purpose

The Catholic Church - in order to pay off lawsuits stemming from PedoPriests - has sold several churches in SF.  They have been bought by the Academy of Art and are used as schools and galleries.

Ars longa, vita brevis

Kia Ora ,

::) God moves in mysterious way Tekla ! ;) ;D

::) As for the Pedophile priest thing...It's strange we don't see street preachers targeting them[Well I've never come across it] ...I wonder why that is ? Perhaps it's a little too close to home for them...

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Anatta

Kia Ora,

::) If one cares to think about it, at the very core of human desire, all any person really wants is to be happy, even the street preacher is doing what his doing in order to find some kind of happiness...[I think they call it serving god]

::) However this drive to find happiness at times can be so strong that one become oblivious to the suffering their desire for self happiness is causing those around them...

::) In fact every single thing we humans do is linked in some way to our quest for happiness...

::) In order for the street preacher to find happiness he must go out of his way to find people to save/annoy and the people he tends to save/annoy [in order to maintain their happiness] must either thank him or ignore what he is saying...

::) So the next time you are accosted by a rambling, raving street preacher, my advice would be to just smile, nod your head, wish him a happy day and tell him "No matter what, Darwin still loves him !"  and then go merrily on your way ! This I guarantee will really make him happy  ;) ...[and at the very least it should put a smile back upon your face ;D]...It's a win win situation really...

Metta Zenda :)   
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Padma

I suggest posts in this topic stick to personal experiences of particular street preachers, and avoid any generalisations, otherwise things very easily descend into "brand wars".

In my experience, you can't really extrapolate from individual preachers and proselytisers, whatever their religion/non-religion (and as I said above, I've encountered people doing this from a number of different religions, including the ones I was supposed to be following - and including devout atheists :)). I've met truly awful and really open ones - it's got so much to do with their individual personalities.
Womandrogyneâ„¢
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Annah

Thank you, Padma

First time, I had to place someone on this site on /ignore because they wont stop the spiritual belittling.

Nice to see a mod stepping in and asking to stop generalizing people. Thank you.
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Anatta

Quote from: Annah on January 27, 2012, 04:51:19 PM
Thank you, Padma

First time, I had to place someone on this site on /ignore because they wont stop the spiritual belittling.

Nice to see a mod stepping in and asking to stop generalizing people. Thank you.

Kia Ora Annah,

::) You finally got your way, so I really do hope you're happy now...No hard feelings  :)

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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