Quote from: Jeneva on January 29, 2012, 01:31:56 PM
And this is exactly why so many of us dog pile threads about Classic Transsexuals and ->-bleeped-<- transsexuals. It is just utter nonsense. In the real world I don't hear any of it.
My therapist is fine with my usual jeans and tee. If I wear something nicer I usually get a compliment, but she has already made it clear that none of that matters in terms of "gatekeeping". She is fine with my level of makeup (foundation and maybe lipstick). She is fine that I am a lesbian.
The same is true of all my primary care physician, my laser tech, my FFS surgeon, and even my friends.
You only hear the attacks on us from the "Classic Transsexuals" themselves. Unfortunately a lot of them are LOUD. I do not mean this as an attack of drag queens. but the most vocal you aren't trans enough comes from the group that started with drag and moved into trans. I'm not just referencing a few posters here, but also people i know in person. The fact I've never done drag doesn't mean I'm not trans. The fact I don't OVER-do my makeup doesn't mean I'm not trans (TONS of women wear NO makeup). But you know what? Even as loud as they can be they hold NO POWER over your transition other than what you give them yourself.
The psych/medical community doesn't care and few "subscribe" to CT/->-bleeped-<-.
Everyone's path is different and no one has the right to challenge your identity. If your friends are saying you aren't trans enough then they aren't your friends and its time to move on.
Funny, because that is also the very reason why I always defend those that identify as, for instance, Autogynephiles, simply because "Holy trannies" all too often wants to decide the sefidentified Autogynephiles identities
for them, instead of just accepting them, as they think that accepting the term will mean that they are accepting to be such themselves(As several people have actually worded it).
I am not an Autogynephile myself, but I do know that they often have a very hard time getting accepted from people that considers themselves "True Transsexuals"whatever that is, as those "True Transsexuals" simply considers the mere existence of people that identify as Autogynephiles, a threat.
Funnily enough, however, Autogynephiles is very seldomly rejected by Transvestites, Crossdressers and FTM's(Not lumping FTM's together with Crossdressers, mind you, I am merely mentioning the groups that seem to have dramatically less problems with people identifying as ->-bleeped-<-'s).
FTM's often seem to really be "The cool cats" on matters that MTF's often flies in the roof about. Perhaps it's a guy-thing.*Shrugs*
Anyway, as said, I always defends ->-bleeped-<-'s for the reason that they need a place too, without being questioned from a non-accepting surrounding.
Here people often counter by saying that; "Oh but they are just confused and have identified themselves wrong and we want to tell them that!". To which I reply; Really? How do you know? According to Anti-trans Activists, YOU are wrong and even delusional, and you will often hear from those Anti-activists that "there are no such thing as being born with the wrong body", and hence "no such thing as Transsexualism". Sounds familiar?
These people, the Anti Trans-activists, commit
the exact same error that people in the T-Community do when they are deciding someone others identity for them and trying to tell them what they are
not, such as telling a selfidentifyed Autogynephile that the condition is a "pile of rubbish".
An extremely rude thing to do, not the least as it is actual discrimination, but that is how people all too often reacts when feeling threatened, and that is also the very reason why people that have hated and even bashed up gays have later found themseves to be gay- Because they felt threatened.
Just accept each other, darn it. In my opinion, this board would benefit much from a ->-bleeped-<--subforum for the above stated very reasons, but until that remote possibility, I will always defend such people. And after that, too.
