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How can I stop being transgender?

Started by Trixie, February 08, 2012, 12:27:36 PM

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Kyyn

I'm not sure how I feel about being considered a birth defect...

But I can understand your pain. I more often then not, have sat looking at myself and thought I must be crazy and should just forget this whole deal.
yet.. in the end, isn't it like forcing yourself not to like your favourite colour? You'll always secretly love it and will be in denial forever.

You can't just remove these thoughts from your mind. You're not a smoker trying to quite - you're a person facing the very core of your soul. Maybe you need to remove yourself just for a little bit, from these people you're so afraid of losing and really look at yourself FOR YOURSELF.
If you decide to stay male for the sake of these people, then make that choice. And accept it in your heart that you're a woman making a great sacrifice for the people you care about. But remember that only you can choose to make that sacrifice. If it's something you can't come to terms with, then it's not a path you really want to take.
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Artemis

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My personal experience is more one like a conflict of conscience?

People expect me to (pretend to) be a man? They do not understand that I have to violate my own conscience if I do as they expect from me. And that makes it so hard, I'm stuck in a conflict between the expectations of other people and my own internal sense of right and wrong.

"Speak only if you can improve on the silence."
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queerkristina

I spent the majority of my life trying to run from being transgender, finally I realized that it was impossible to run from myself. From who I really am. I've come to a place of peace with this journey. I am now not only at peace, but also grateful for this journey.
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Trixie

I wish it was possible for me to stop desiring being female. Such a thing is an impossibility for me, and I really, really can't be doing it. It's just frustrating and upsetting. I wish I were a girl very, very badly.

I have to do my best to get over it. Hopefully I will be able to do that.
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Kelly J. P.

 Wishing to be cis is... quite the trap.

We can be stronger for our birth defect. Souls of steel, strengthed by their hammers and their fires... that sort of thing. Jenna Talackova said, "It builds character," and while I laughed quite a bit - I see that as a big unerstatement - it's true.

We can be better people for it all. More open, accepting, knowledgable... and we can have the most beautiful hearts in the world. Appearances can be changed these days, and it's not that special... but how can a cis person have the kind of heart and insight that we do?

They can't.

It might be a hundred times easier and better to just be born correctly, but I would not say that being trans is without its blessings.

Keep strong, Trixie... you are a girl, and you have a whole new life and adventure ahead of you. :)
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Trixie

But I'm not a girl. I shouldn't kid myself... I'm not.  :'(

I don't think I have  a "birth defect" or a physiological problem like I imagine most of you do. It's all psychological for me, I think. Therefore my feminity is invalidated, and I am not a girl. Merely a confused boy.

I'm jealous of people who get to transition, especially those who're accepted by their families and those they know... but I know I'm not like that. There are a lot of reasons I can't, and never will.

I want to get over it. I wish I could just be happy and okay with being a man. I can't though. I feel trapped.
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Shantel

Quote from: Trixie on April 11, 2012, 08:22:27 AM
But I'm not a girl. I shouldn't kid myself... I'm not.  :'(

I don't think I have  a "birth defect" or a physiological problem like I imagine most of you do. It's all psychological for me, I think. Therefore my feminity is invalidated, and I am not a girl. Merely a confused boy.

I'm jealous of people who get to transition, especially those who're accepted by their families and those they know... but I know I'm not like that. There are a lot of reasons I can't, and never will.

I want to get over it. I wish I could just be happy and okay with being a man. I can't though. I feel trapped.

I'm not a shrink, but I've been around a good long time and this is clearly a case of Gender Identity Disorder [GID] or as its also referred to, Gender Dysphoria. Go see a competent counselor who specializes in gender issues. Otherwise you will be stuck in this ongoing morass forever. Life is short, eat your desert first!
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grrl1nside

Hi Trixie, I definitely think you should talk this out with a counsellor of some sort. Your series of posts are raising all sorts of issues that are challenging and obviously very difficult. I am sorry if I will be putting words in your mouth, but I can see a very long list of things being raised and I think you would be well served to start creating a list and addressing them one at a time but then also with the help of someone to start to see how you have put them together and how they create tension or alternatively support each other.

So far, I have seen raised--the patriarchical system and guilt, autism, the differences between intersexuality versus psychological conditions (as if there are no biological components to both), the extent to which one can find various means of expressing gender while being male/female/something else altogether, is ->-bleeped-<- biological, etc.

Massive issues and I think you will find all of them are HUGE! What matters is that you find a safe place to explore them and find what is right and comfortable for you whatever the label is ultimately.

Peace to you!
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Trixie

I can't go to a counsellor. I'm on my parents insurance. I have to tell them to go to see a Doctor. I live in America, and health care isn't free here. I have no way of seeing a counsellor or therapist without paying money I don't have.
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Stephe

Quote from: Trixie on April 11, 2012, 08:22:27 AM
There are a lot of reasons I can't, and never will.

I felt this same way and it's why it took so long for me to transition. "Never" is a long time :) Maybe you can't see it happening in the near future but one day it can. Maybe after you get out on your own and get settled you can start dealing with it. Just don't say never!
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King Malachite

Quote from: Trixie on April 11, 2012, 10:05:00 AM
I can't go to a counsellor. I'm on my parents insurance. I have to tell them to go to see a Doctor. I live in America, and health care isn't free here. I have no way of seeing a counsellor or therapist without paying money I don't have.

I feel your pain on that one Trixie.  Sometimes I wish I could move to another country just so I could have a lot of this covered.  :( -hugs-
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King Malachite

Quote from: Malachite on April 11, 2012, 01:34:18 PM
I feel your pain on that one Trixie.  Sometimes I wish I could move to another country just so I could have a lot of this covered.  :( -hugs-

I just realized that I bolded everything lol.
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"Sometimes you have to go through outer hell to get to inner heaven."

"Anomalies can make the best revolutionaries."
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Michelle G

I actually enjoy what/who I am, sure there have been countless major frustrations as I have wandered thru life, but I have learned to take things on with an open mind and to figure out the best route through the situations as they came up.

Sure I would love to be "all girl all the time" but if I have to be in "boy mode" to fit in with family and career as it was dished out to me over the years as a result of having not come out at a much younger age, then so be it ;)

as always though...we are not drones all programmed as carbon copies... so each person in this world has his/hers own personalities and mental "state of mind" to deal with...I wish Trixie the very best!!
Just a "California Girl" trying to enjoy each sunny day
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RAY

I agree with Rabbit society must completely stop judging those whom are different  who's self expression is to be who they want to be. Even I struggle everyday with this question and can find no peace with it. My view is no one has a complete full answer to why some feel/need to alter or desire to be the opposite gender. For others to also be of other gender types is not wrong nor should one be forced into being ashamed because of it. The world would be a boring place if we were all the same.
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Seyranna

Strange I never actually "want" to be a girl, I just so happened to be one. I didn't care in the least about my wretched body and even though I found myself extremely ugly I never looked at women with envy. Worst thing is I wasn't ugly at all in fact I was a pretty hot guy >.< I never wanted to be them because it was already the case in my head and since I was a lesbian it ended up more confusing than it needed to be and eventually after having kids I had to concede that I just wasn't "becoming" a man any time soon and that maybe I suffered from not "looking" like a woman.

I'm inclined to say that it doesn't really matter just how trans you are, what matters is if transition is right for you or not. Best way to know is to live part time as a woman ASAP.
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JoanneB

Quote from: Trixie on April 11, 2012, 10:05:00 AM
I can't go to a counsellor. I'm on my parents insurance. I have to tell them to go to see a Doctor. I live in America, and health care isn't free here. I have no way of seeing a counsellor or therapist without paying money I don't have.

There are options. While it may seem lame there are counselors at your school or perhaps a friendly teacher can help.

Another fantastic resource is PFLAG whose focus is towards LGBT kids and for their parents and friends. The PBS show "In the Life" is airing this month a show on TG kids featuring a Maryland chapter whose folks I've meet and are the most incredible advocates for TG's and for TG rights. It was hard to hold back the tears, during the senates SB212 TG Rights Bill hearing, listening to one womans tale of dealing with her daugher. The show is already posted on their site InTheLifeMedia dot org.
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patstar

I assume it is done the same way one stops being gay or such.  I think that we all fail to frequently fully realize how fortunate we are sweetheart to have been born into this, relatively speaking, highly enlightened and high-tech society.  Imagine how difficult things would be for you in another time or place.  Time will provide the best answer to your question.  Just make sure not to much of your life has passed when you are sure enough that you know the answer; because, yes, life can be way too short.
Well wishes to all. Patrice
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Trixie

Quote from: JoanneB on April 13, 2012, 07:41:33 AM
There are options. While it may seem lame there are counselors at your school or perhaps a friendly teacher can help.

Another fantastic resource is PFLAG whose focus is towards LGBT kids and for their parents and friends. The PBS show "In the Life" is airing this month a show on TG kids featuring a Maryland chapter whose folks I've meet and are the most incredible advocates for TG's and for TG rights. It was hard to hold back the tears, during the senates SB212 TG Rights Bill hearing, listening to one womans tale of dealing with her daugher. The show is already posted on their site InTheLifeMedia dot org.

I doubt I'm young enough to contact them or get their help or anything, being 20.

I did watch that documentary... it was quite beautiful, but it also depressed me. I'm such a jealous person... I hate how jealous I can be. Just jealous of those kids who DO have families who support them... I would give nearly anything for that.
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coursecorrection

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  I remember being 12 and crying inside because I wanted to be a girl.. I constantly wore dresses when others werent home.. I would make wishes to whatever was out there to turn me into a girl  for my happiness.. I still struggle with the feelings.. when I wear suits.. when I had a girlfriend..when i Look in the mirror.. or i see a thin pretty women with long hair.. or another transgender that got to go with it.. but I never wanted it.. I wanted to be a man like my dad.   I recall being confused as a young boy, but not am i a girl or am i a boy.. i just didn't have a connection inside to what i was..

I can't describe it..just a lack of a sense of what i was. Im talking 2-3 and make a conscious decision to be a little man.except at that time young girls were gross and young boys were to crazy and aggressive for me. I decided at that time would grow up to be just like my dad. but this world doesn't allow that and its gory expectations of what im supposed to be doesn't match up to a loving, sensitive, feeling, caring, calm and mild non disgusting sexually moral person I want to be. . I'm 30 years old now and those feelings haven't left me. When i wear mens clothes i feel incomplete. I Married my friend and whenever Im with her I just don't feel right.. but I want to be. I do care about her though.

I made the conscious choice to be straight when I was 17-18 and desired to be with a girl named Jaymee.. It didn't happen and because this world forces you to act like you'd rather not I felt forced to fit in so I created this false feeling that i needed to have sex to be a man. We know the struggle between straight and gay..
I never liked men sexually but I had liked other transgender for comforts sake and my desire to conform to what I wanted to do was failing because I wound up with a girl I didn't love..I could have changed my outlook and coped with my feelings had i just stuck to a girl i love but I didn't and it was terrible to for me        . It can be done.. but I made the mistake and I had no helper to guide me around life. I can't blame anyone because I never told anyone because I knew it would give me problems and it would hurt people I cared about.     This world is crazy and I always fealt something wasn't right.. I came across a girl in school that I just loved..Not romantically but I fealt really good around her.

She was so different from the other people around me..again I do struggle with transgender feelings. and I lock it away. I was never attracted to men. i was never really sexual at all, I only really created the desire for it because everything around you according to the topic says you are crazy if you aren't.. I just really needed to be a girl.    It turned out that she was one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I never knew what they were or heard of them but months before I knew this girl was one,i gred to really care about her. and she was so cool and kind and had this completely different freeness about her speach and actions. Evven compared to other girls that are considered quiet or good or nice. She was completely greater in a way i didn't understand.

Long story short, I began struggling with my sexuallity again though i never really wanted either, around 19-20, I had just quit Airforce basic training because Im not that kind of person at all and did it for the sake of my father.  kind of the same feeling I get when I wear mens clothing.  Anyway, I got back around my friends and the struggles of every youth in an unstable life got the better of me and I finally found out what I was lacking after I had a near death experience or so I thought. I always wanted to learn about jesus and God but evvery church i had been to never worked..I always felt a lacking from what i learned about christ and what god was really like.. hellfire, killing for no reason. taking everyones money and just talking about feel good things and contradict what I heard about what the bible was.. I never read the bible because our family never had one or cared..
I never read it until I was 20. I asked erica, the girl I mentioned earlier, for one after my experience. She gave me another book about christ on earth and when I read it I cryed out and said This is the truth!! I experienced a huge change in my life because I finally got to read what actually had sense in it. I struggled over the next few years to commit to it because of my horrible choices and expectations but I overcame them and finally got involved with Jehovah's witnesses. I read that god doesn't burn people in fire forever and doesn't kill people to get what he wants.

  He trys to help us but the devil is complicating things and trying to convince the world that there is no danger and that God doesn't care about us or that he's evil. but I know now we aren't supposed to be like we are and Jesus christs real reason to be reavealed is to break up the works of the devil and make it all better. They call it a new world and I know now from reading it!! that everything we are tought or told about God or armageddon and the so called apocalypse are wrong. I can't answer all of it but a lot of transgender people that want to not be transgender have a feeling that there is something else or don't have words for it but for me I have to say this was it.. I can say I know whats can be done about it all. I got involved with the witnesses and My struggle has been given a promise from the truth that I have read! that the truth of the bible has been misrepresented.. and God as he is has been given the wrong idea given to him. why is it then if not that so many people with a religion are still unhappy..and still can't give a concrete answer to life and every problem.
  if it doesn't set you free I'm going to say it must not be the greatest truth there is. Im still fighting with my problems but I know it will be gone from me at sometime near. and its not as overwhelming as it was before i learned these things. At the core of myself i'm free from it all. Im not here to make a fight but to aid other people like me that really want to get rid of these things like I had.. if you want to carry on as you are ok.. but I'd say try and give a prayer a chance to Jehovah in christ's name and try and give witnesses a go. I'm happier for it. I know a pair of twins in the phillipines, and from when they could walk and talk said they were girls and played dress up and had dolls.. they grew up and became popular as ->-bleeped-<-s, they were on tv and were famous for it. they both read with the witneses. had bible studies and learned the same thing I have. One of them really liked the good news and learned the truth of the promised new world free of imperfection and sin and lies.. the other liked it but decided to remain trans.
  I really need to lay this down... before I learned these things I really NEEDED to be a girl to gain happiness.. now its not so hard. Im happy to some degree how things worked out because If my parents had known and condoned it me think Iwas ok for me to act this way I probably would have wanted hormone therapy, but to I worked out got muscles and begain looking more like a man..so after a certain point i realized i couldn't be physically as convincing as a girl as I wanted to be and caused me to keep trying to hide.  as your mind can sometimes tell you that you have to.. ask you think the world kicks you into.. that fact helped me to go against my feelings. of course at the time I wanted nothing more than to become a girl so it wasn't good for me then..
I still want the pain to go away but deep in me the greater desire to be different overtakes my "external" feelings to be a woman.. I still want to cry from my desire to be a girl but I know it itsn't how its supposed to be because that wasn't how god made us.. We think we are like we are because its how god made man but it isn't.  and all the confusing stuff about god out there has shaped our thoughts against what is real.     but anyway I want to help whoever can be helped because I know there are others out there like myself that don't want to give into these feelings for whatever reason.. Jehovah's promise to get rid of our pain controls my life to the point that the pain isn't so hard anymore.. When I get tired and weak I fight it but the truth is that it will all be done away with and we can all function like we are supposed to in the right way and free from angry, mean, overly harsh, hurtful people and awkward thoughts and feelings and struggles.

I want to get peace and so can you or your friends. Goodbye I hope you are helped and find the truth.  I edited this but I got  emo when I went to edit it so it might not be the greatest story ever told. But jehovah is my stronghold and and I get help when I pray to him.. He doesn't hate us.. the whole thing is that the devil has misguided people so that they won't find out that he's actually the one to blame for all of our physical issues.. Men were men, women were women.... While I can't fight the feelings I have at times and the way I think here and there.. because it felt real at the time.. I know now it wasn't supposed to feel like this.. So im going to struggle ahead because of telling God(Jehovah) that I want to do whats good.. he has lessened my pain so that I can keep going and at times I even forget my situation as if I'm already where he wants me..   he wants us to get help but he also doesn't want us to do what we do because it isn't how it was originally intended and to think about it like that explains all the internal conflicts!! I know that he still accepts me as long as I keep trying and loving and liking the good things that he likes.. because its not me.. he wants whats good for everyone. just so many lies around..its truly amazing to find out so many religions leave so much out and make God out to be something that he isn't..especially when things are taken out of the big picture.. It makes me sad to think so many transgender,->-bleeped-<-s, gays, lesbians and so forth have closed their heart to God because of all the false information out there about the bible, God and christ. So sad.. I'm glad I learned the reality and listened to my friend Erica in high school.. yay

I mean look at flowers and cats and puppies... how could a cruel uncaring father make good stuff like that.. this world has stuffed to many lies in our minds and it has caused us to make choices that werent based on truth and reality.!! please consider going to jw.org  or talk to a Witness when you can because you may like what they say. tell them you want to hear what they have to say. ok bye. for real. 
Agaiin, Im sorry if this was incoherent in any way.. I've never actually expressed this out loud until this post.
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emilyking

GD can, in fact be looked as a birth defect.  They are able yo prove our brains are different.  But we can't let it define us.
I have Albinism, but I don't let it slow me down.
Even thou we can prove what we are, each of is is different, and can cope in different ways.  Some of us go all the way, while other may figure other ways around it.
Ether way, we did choose to be awesome instead we were chosen.
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