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period or just kids?

Started by Natkat, February 18, 2012, 05:54:33 AM

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Natkat

okay a question.

I tend to hear a couple of mtf who talk about period to be the best thing who ever could happent to them.

I dont understand how this bleeding, being in pain, making your landery dirty and so on could be something to look forward too, but I understand the thing about if your have period you can have biological children which many wish for.

so my question now is;
if you would like to have period, would you still had that wish if it ment you still would be unable to have children?
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Chloe

Quote from: Natkat on February 18, 2012, 05:54:33 AM
okay a question.if you would like to have period, would you still had that wish if it ment you still would be unable to have children?

Sounds INSANE to me NatKat - the whole point and joy of being, expressing third-gender is uniting the best attitudes and qualities of both and periods doesn't strike me a very appealing at all ! My daughter, who's just turned 14 (lol and spells like you), finds it the most annoying thing in the world and wishes it wasn't true but as a parent myself i could tell you *having children is the most rewarding thing in life that anyone could ever do*

It pains me to hear about so many *alleged non-accepting* parents here; i always tell my kids the same thing my father told me "i love and support you regardless* and i suppose *tampons* will always be a part of "the girl drama", what ya gonna do?

Is it really THAT bad? Some seem to deal with it better than others. Try having to *shave face* everyday ! Do YOU really want a *scruffy beard*?
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rachl

Even my cis-gender female friends are a little jealous that I won't have periods...

I'm really happy about that, and part of the reason is that I have ZERO desire for kids anyway. As a male, I seriously considered a vasectomy as early as 24.
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Natkat

Quote from: Kiera on February 18, 2012, 06:55:25 AM
Sounds INSANE to me NatKat - the whole point and joy of being, expressing third-gender is uniting the best attitudes and qualities of both and periods doesn't strike me a very appealing at all ! My daughter, who's just turned 14 (lol and spells like you), finds it the most annoying thing in the world and wishes it wasn't true but as a parent myself i could tell you *having children is the most rewarding thing in life that anyone could ever do*

It pains me to hear about so many *alleged non-accepting* parents here; i always tell my kids the same thing my father told me "i love and support you regardless* and i suppose *tampons* will always be a part of "the girl drama", what ya gonna do?

Is it really THAT bad? Some seem to deal with it better than others. Try having to *shave face* everyday ! Do YOU really want a *scruffy beard*?

you sound kinda offended, I wasnt trying to attack anyone, I am just asking a question.

in fact yes I already pretty much shave everyday so I want something more I could shave off,
I just wondering if the wish of having period, as I heard a couple of mtf talking about, only is related to the wish of having children or if there is more to it than that.
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mm

great question, Natkat.  I can't wait for my monthly to end, i don't ever want kids, so have no need for those parts.  I hope to have a total hyster someday but that is down the road in my transtioning plans.
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Kahlan Amnell

Natkat: Interesting question. For me, I know that I can never experience menstruation and the subsequent energetic/psychic/root chakra cycle that surrounds that.
I already have two children and easily/naturally adopted the role as mother/nurturer for them.
Earlier in my transition when researching the sociological history of transsexual / transgender, I considered what it would be like to observe a monthly blood ritual, but it never took hold of me in a way the brought me to try it. Here is a bit of info:

Quote...early ethnographers observed a Mojave two-spirit man who was also faking a woman's menstruation by scratching his inner thighs until he bled thus faking menstrual bleeding.

My note: I don't agree with the use or tone of the word 'faking' which in my mind makes the ritual seem delusional. That being said, from the research I've done on native American 'trans' folk of all types -- they had a rough time being accepted in the societies (tribes) they lived in as well, so perhaps the seeming derogatory use of the word 'faked' is not so far off the mark. In any event, point being, 'to each his or her own'. I try to see the truth of an individual and how they reflect and represent their true inner self. Trying to judge what is 'right' or 'authentic' in others is a slippery slope, because to make differences is a disease of the mind (Sengstan) it infects you, and then you are caught up in endless differences, when the truth is found in wholeness, oneness and other such inner contemplations.

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Tazia of the Omineca

Well I experience PMS and I used to get really bad cramps in my lower abdomen  all the time.
Apparently that's kind of what a period is like for some, and I will say it is a horrible experience.

Being "bitchy" and cramped up persistently is not fun at all.
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Tori

I would love to hate having a monthly cycle.

I would also, rather enjoy complaining about it.


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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: Natkat on February 18, 2012, 10:14:55 AMI just wondering if the wish of having period, as I heard a couple of mtf talking about, only is related to the wish of having children or if there is more to it than that.

I think it's probably the same sort of thing as you wanting a beard.  All of us (okay, maybe not ALL of us, lol) would desperately rather have been born with the correct attributes matching our inner reality, rather than have to "make do" with making what we HAVE match as close as possible.  For MTF's, that means HRT brings boobs, and we go for vaginoplasty, etc.  If we COULD have an actual functional uterus, ovaries, etc., I'm sure a lot of us would want that, even if it meant periods.

Also, for you, periods are just as discomforting as our beards are to us.  So just think how much you want a full beard (and you will have it, too, but you will probably lose hair on top, lol), and how much we do NOT want our beard, then turn it around to periods, it's probably about the same sort of thing.

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rachl

I conjecture that periods are worse than beards...but I only know one half of that equation.
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Colleen Ireland

Well, I currently go every week for electrolysis, which means I shave on Sunday morning and then leave it (not shave) until after my electro appointment Tuesday afternoon.  Tuesdays are HELL for me.  My beard is currently the VERY WORST sort of dysphoria trigger.  I don't go out.  I work from home that day.  Nobody sees me, I can barely stand myself.  And this happens every week.  Ugh!!

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pretty

Quote from: Colleen Ireland on February 18, 2012, 02:30:58 PM
I think it's probably the same sort of thing as you wanting a beard.  All of us (okay, maybe not ALL of us, lol) would desperately rather have been born with the correct attributes matching our inner reality, rather than have to "make do" with making what we HAVE match as close as possible.  For MTF's, that means HRT brings boobs, and we go for vaginoplasty, etc.  If we COULD have an actual functional uterus, ovaries, etc., I'm sure a lot of us would want that, even if it meant periods.

Also, for you, periods are just as discomforting as our beards are to us.  So just think how much you want a full beard (and you will have it, too, but you will probably lose hair on top, lol), and how much we do NOT want our beard, then turn it around to periods, it's probably about the same sort of thing.

The nice thing is, nobody is forced to grow a beard  :D
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Colleen Ireland

Quote from: pretty on February 18, 2012, 03:12:50 PM
The nice thing is, nobody is forced to grow a beard  :D

Well, it's either that or shave...  ::)

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Asfsd4214

Quote from: Natkat on February 18, 2012, 05:54:33 AM
if you would like to have period, would you still had that wish if it ment you still would be unable to have children?

Of course.
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King Malachite

I will gladly swap my uterus and ovaries and period for a nice pair of blue balls and a nice scruffy beard....any takers?
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pretty

Also in response to the OP I never wanted a period and I think wanting one would constitute some level of insanity  :D
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Tazia of the Omineca

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MacKenzie



  I think we as transwomen lucked out on that one seriously periods and still can't give birth eh no thanks.  :icon_blink:

  I'd love to be able to get pregnant but periods go hand in hand with that so idk.
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EmilyElizabeth

I don't think it's crazy to want something that is such a unique aspect of the female experience.  It's hard being around girls who have had those experiences and can relate to each other on that level.  Whenever periods/pregnancy/birth control are brought up, I become more dysphoric and feel like a fake.  If I could have periods, I would no longer feel like a complete outcast from all the other girls I know.


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spacial

Natkat, this is an interesting point.

I suppose the best way I can explain it is by saying I would like to feel I was a normal as any other girl.

I can't say I would relish the uncomfortable bits. I've worked in Maternity and seen 11 babies being born, as well as a large number of pre and post delivery mothers. I can't in all honesty say I would like to deliver a baby. But I would love to be a mum.

Is that what you were asking?
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