period or just kids?

[Colleen Ireland]

Whenever periods/pregnancy/birth control are brought up, I become more dysphoric and feel like a fake.

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This.

Not that I feel like a fake, but when women are together in groups, they often discuss their pregnancy and childbirth experiences.  I can join into a discussion of raising kids (I've raised 3), but the closest I can come to joining a preg/birth convo is to describe some of what my ex went through, and that's not only not the same, it would come across as weird.  So yeah, there are places we can't go, and that sucks.  Part of the journey, tho, and I think we just have to make the best of things as they are till something better comes along...

[rachl]

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This.

Not that I feel like a fake, but when women are together in groups, they often discuss their pregnancy and childbirth experiences.  I can join into a discussion of raising kids (I've raised 3), but the closest I can come to joining a preg/birth convo is to describe some of what my ex went through, and that's not only not the same, it would come across as weird.  So yeah, there are places we can't go, and that sucks.  Part of the journey, tho, and I think we just have to make the best of things as they are till something better comes along...

Don't forget that there are lots of cis-women who have reproductive problems and they don't feel like a fake!

[Felix]

Sounds INSANE to me NatKat - the whole point and joy of being, expressing third-gender is uniting the best attitudes and qualities of both and periods doesn't strike me a very appealing at all ! My daughter, who's just turned 14 (lol and spells like you), finds it the most annoying thing in the world and wishes it wasn't true but as a parent myself i could tell you *having children is the most rewarding thing in life that anyone could ever do*

Kiera he's not a native english speaker. And I happen to LOVE the way Natkat uses language and grammar, just never knew how to say so without sounding like I'm making fun of him. His intent and approach filtered through his handle on spelling and syntax makes everything he says kind of weirdly poetic. Not to detract from the content. He does have a good question here.

[Natkat]

I think it's probably the same sort of thing as you wanting a beard.  All of us (okay, maybe not ALL of us, lol) would desperately rather have been born with the correct attributes matching our inner reality, rather than have to "make do" with making what we HAVE match as close as possible.  For MTF's, that means HRT brings boobs, and we go for vaginoplasty, etc.  If we COULD have an actual functional uterus, ovaries, etc., I'm sure a lot of us would want that, even if it meant periods.

Also, for you, periods are just as discomforting as our beards are to us.  So just think how much you want a full beard (and you will have it, too, but you will probably lose hair on top, lol), and how much we do NOT want our beard, then turn it around to periods, it's probably about the same sort of thing.

I guess a beard are worse for mtf than periods are as periods mostly are to hide and not all the time.
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spacial
I am asking if wanting period is related to the wish of being able to have children.

in other words,
if you could have period, but still where unable to have children biological would you like too have that?

[EmilyElizabeth]

Don't periods also end after going on testosterone?

[Felix]

Don't periods also end after going on testosterone?

I'm going through menopause right now.

[Chamillion]

I guess a beard are worse for mtf than periods are as periods mostly are to hide and not all the time.

Periods are probably worse because of the fact that periods suck for all people who have them.  Cis girls also hate getting them, because it's painful and messy and can mess with your emotions.  So you take something that's already total crap and add the gender dysphoria aspect and it's pretty bad IMO.  Beards on the other hand aren't upsetting on their own, I've never heard of a boy being upset that he can grow facial hair now.  So maybe beards are more comparable to having breasts or something?  In that they are only upsetting if you're not happy with your biological sex?

[EmilyElizabeth]

Well, I think we're talking strictly in terms of trans people here, so for two different people transitioning, one an MTF and the other an FTM (and assuming both have access to their respective hormone treatments) the FTM would have a considerably easier time getting rid of his periods (simply waiting for testosterone to take effect sufficiently) than an MTF would have getting rid of her facial hair (hours of laser/electrolysis, thousands of dollars and having to worry every day that her facial hair is showing and that it will out her).

[mm]

In respond to Chamillion, I know of no cis girl/woman how likes getting their period. The mess and pain is no fun, also you  cannot enjoy your bf or husband very well at that time.  Knowing this will happen every month can effect your emotion too and many times it comes when you have something important planned and don't need the pain or mess down there.  I can see why some of the newer BC methods that allow a women to have only 4 periods a year are so polarular with women.  Only when a woman wants to get pregnant is she concerned about getting her period or not. Also, I agree that beards and breasts are problably a better comparison, for transpersons trys to hide or remove them.

I agree with EmilyElizabeth, hormones have completely different effects on periods and beards.  T in a short time will stops a ftm's periods, where E has little effect on facial hair so not a good comparison.  Again beards and breasts are a better comparison.

[spx_1112]

I would like to have periods  see a doctor feel the baby move in kick go into l see a doctor feel the baby move in kick go into labor give birth and breastfeed

[Tristan]

i just want kids. after 3 months of always bleeding post op and then spotting there for after i can say i have had my fill of that experience. haha 

[A]

I wouldn't mind them. (Might change my mind once I get to actually try it, heh.) They would make me feel normal, and normality is comforting.

If they didn't come with reproductive ability, then no, I wouldn't really want them so much that I'd want to undergo an operation for it. It sounds like asking if I'd like to pay (period) for the bread (reproductive ability) even though I won't get the bread.

If I was offered to get them or not, magically, instantly, then I might choose them, in search of normality, or confirmation of my feminity. But I would probably not, because it's probably not worth it, and it's not very rational to want something unpleasant because it's normal.

However, if I could keep the magic wand, I'd at least want to live through it once, to know what it's like.

[~RoadToTrista~]

Yes because one, I wouldn't have to take pills and two, if some dumb ciswoman challenges my womenhood by telling me I don't get periods then I could just be like "BETCH, YES I DO!!!"

[A]

Oh, do periods come with natural hormone production in this situation? If so, yes, I want the whole kit. I'm almost sure.

[MaidofOrleans]

I don't understand why anyone would WANT a period.

That's all i'll say.

[muuu]

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[kathy bottoms]

This all goes back to the worst aspect of my dysphoria.  Being a complete woman starts as a girl, having that first period, growing into a new body as a teenager, becoming a grown woman, falling in love, having the experience of climaxing sex, getting pregnant, bearing a child, and lovingly nursing an infant that grew inside me.   That's what I've missed, and I'm finally learning to deal with it. 

I can't live with myself as a man, and I can't be that complete woman.  Oh sh*t.  I guess it's time to see a therapist again. 

But really.  If I could, I would.  All of it. 

Kathy

[noleen111]

My roommate who is generic girl, says to me, that I am lucky that I will never have a period, she says that she cramps quite bad, and it is uncomfortable. She jokes with me and says its unfair that I get all perks of being a woman, with none of the bad parts. I reply, yes but i can never have children.

Knowing all this, I still would love to experience a period. Its part of being a woman and its something all woman share and can never be part of that. I know they researching transplanting female reproductive organs, and they this has being done.. see below.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/19/health/uterine-transplant

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/8571487/Worlds-first-womb-transplant-planned.html


I know this type of surgery is decades off being mainstream.

But if it became mainstream...  I would go for it.. then i would be a complete woman,.  I would get periods and would able to fall pregnant. 

[Jeepgirl90]

I actually wouldn't mind having a monthy "friend." yes they probably are not fun, but its part of being female

[Joanna Dark]

Being a complete woman starts as a girl, having that first period, growing into a new body as a teenager, becoming a grown woman, falling in love, having the experience of climaxing sex, getting pregnant, bearing a child, and lovingly nursing an infant that grew inside me.

I'm not so sure that falling in love, having a baby, nursing an infant and multiple climactic orgasms are experiences all women share. Some women are barren. other's have endometriosis, some women just have miscarriages (which are horrible) and some women just don't choose to nurse. What makes a woman? IDK. But I don't think it is the ability to have a period. Of course, go to any comment section where someone bashes transwomen and they will say they can't have babies; they are not women. That is the number one argument. I don't know what a woman is, but I know one when I see her.