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Started by Melanie Anne, March 01, 2012, 12:28:34 PM

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Shana A

Quote from: soulfairer on September 15, 2012, 06:43:25 PM
And so is mine! I am "just" 32, but I already realized time doesn't rewind (at least in this sense). Now is the answer and the means!

True, there's no rewind button!

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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ativan

It's all in one's self perspectives!

Indeed, it is. I have two friends around my age, they look and act much younger.
It's because they view the world with younger eyes, think younger.
We each look at each other when someone brings up our age.
Then laugh to ourselves, knowing it isn't really reality as we see it.

Ativan
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soulfairer

Quote from: Zythyra on September 15, 2012, 10:01:39 PM
True, there's no rewind button!

Z

Yes! And some folks insist: "but you're so young, and you look so younger!" - but still, we don't have time because it only passes once.
The problem with all that? I learnt not to go with the flow, because we always can do more.
Hope I don't hit a big, huge and rocky wall!
(probably we will hit it, as it is "fate", but I hope to be able to climb it)
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Joann

Quote from: Ativan Prescribed on September 15, 2012, 08:30:55 PM
I'm 60 (that is still so weird to say). But I'm going on 32. I haven't the slightest idea how time has moved along to actually be this age. But I never thought, as many did, that I wouldn't see 30, so going on 32 is an accomplishment in itself.


51 going on 28. After last night's support group i went out with a group half my age and fit right in. Except when i commented "I was there when Aerosmith first came on the seen". The conversation stopped for a moment.
♪♫ You dont look different but you have changed...
I'm looking through you,. Your not the same ♪♫ :)
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aleon515

Quote from: Joann on September 16, 2012, 11:44:05 AM
51 going on 28. After last night's support group i went out with a group half my age and fit right in. Except when i commented "I was there when Aerosmith first came on the seen". The conversation stopped for a moment.

Sounds like a bit of my experience. LOL! :) I am officially the oldest guy in the group.

--Jay Jay
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ashrock

I'm 27 going on 40. Looks like a very long road ahead for me no matter which direction I go. A little daunting actually...
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ashley_thomas

This thread is such a great resource, thank you everyone!  I'm considering low dose for at least a 3-5 year period maybe starting as early as this coming spring, probably waiting for a full transition for the full 5 years due to career, family and community related concerns.  I'm pretty sure I'm mtf but would like the inward expression corrected with physical changes that can be minimized or hidden from others.  Plausible deniability is my phrase of choice with the outside world. Maybe I'm cowardly, but I just am not ready for a social transition even though I am out at home with a supporting partner and age appropriate disclosure to our young kids.  In my situation it just seems reckless an irresponsible to move any quicker... :(
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Shantel

Quote from: aleon515 on September 16, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
Sounds like a bit of my experience. LOL! :) I am officially the oldest guy in the group.

--Jay Jay

I dunno Jay Jay, being androgyne I respond to either he or she and since I'll be 70 in actual years on the big rock next August and want to keep my crown as the eldest one in the group, no usurping honors allowed! However mentally, emotionally and for the most part physically I'm in my mid-thirties.
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Shantel

Quote from: ashley_thomas on December 21, 2012, 08:02:51 AM
This thread is such a great resource, thank you everyone!  I'm considering low dose for at least a 3-5 year period maybe starting as early as this coming spring, probably waiting for a full transition for the full 5 years due to career, family and community related concerns.  I'm pretty sure I'm mtf but would like the inward expression corrected with physical changes that can be minimized or hidden from others.  Plausible deniability is my phrase of choice with the outside world. Maybe I'm cowardly, but I just am not ready for a social transition even though I am out at home with a supporting partner and age appropriate disclosure to our young kids.  In my situation it just seems reckless an irresponsible to move any quicker... :(

It's a rather selfless and responsible plan that many here can completely relate to, good for you Ashley!
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StarPixie

i'm a 26 male and i consider myself an androgyne, i go between the genders often but i want to go one way specifically as being 'feminine'

now i have not gone to a doctor yet, but i want to try low dose hrt, in fact i started mine own with information i got from the net, i'm using the classic low t blocker pill and phytoestrogen pills which are extremely weak, considering now to switch them to conjugated estrogens or a strong form of estradiol like estrace

what do you guys think?

by the way i don't really mind if i grow small boobs
;)
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Shana A

Quote from: StarPixie on January 02, 2013, 03:51:53 PM
what do you guys think?

From TOS:

8. The discussion of hormone replacement therapy(HRT) and it's medications are permitted, with the following limitations:

    A. You may not advocate for or against a specific medication or combinations of medication for personal gain. This is strictly prohibited.
    B. You may not discuss the means to acquire HRT medications without a prescription. The discussion of self medication without a doctors supervision is prohibited.
    C. The discussion of recommended or actual dosages is strongly discouraged to prevent information obtained on this site from being used to self medicate.

We can not in good conscience condone the self administering of these medications. Not only may self medication be illegal, but HRT medications can cause serious health problems, and many have the potential for life-threatening side effects that can only be detected and prevented with proper medical supervision.



Please make an appointment with a physician or gender clinic, and be safe!

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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soulfairer

Quote from: Zythyra on January 02, 2013, 08:53:12 PM
From TOS:

8. The discussion of hormone replacement therapy(HRT) and it's medications are permitted, with the following limitations:

    A. You may not advocate for or against a specific medication or combinations of medication for personal gain. This is strictly prohibited.
    B. You may not discuss the means to acquire HRT medications without a prescription. The discussion of self medication without a doctors supervision is prohibited.
    C. The discussion of recommended or actual dosages is strongly discouraged to prevent information obtained on this site from being used to self medicate.

We can not in good conscience condone the self administering of these medications. Not only may self medication be illegal, but HRT medications can cause serious health problems, and many have the potential for life-threatening side effects that can only be detected and prevented with proper medical supervision.



Please make an appointment with a physician or gender clinic, and be safe!

Z

I second that. StarPixie, you asked me in my personal blog, but the fact is that self-done HRT is dangerous and you should know that it carries risks - if you ever ever do that, please research a lot and know there are risks, I stress that. There are stories of people needing to never more do HRT, for they developed DVT that is a real risk (okay, it's a risk in GGs, but still).
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soulfairer

I'll post my reply here and delete that comment, because I just don't want my blog to be flooded with questions about HRT.

"Hi! I think you need a help. If you need starting HRT, you need to research a lot, along with choosing which will be your cares. I always tell people they should go to a doc, talk about it and do all the necessary tests (free E? SBH? free T? Progesterone? a complete blood test? ALT? AST? etc) before really going into that. You should be certain about a lot of things before..."
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StarPixie

alright you guys win, i will seek a doctor as it seems the better thing to do,  but i wonder if they do encourage low dose hrt?
;)
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Shantel

Quote from: StarPixie on January 02, 2013, 03:51:53 PM
i'm a 26 male and i consider myself an androgyne, i go between the genders often but i want to go one way specifically as being 'feminine'

now i have not gone to a doctor yet, but i want to try low dose hrt, in fact i started mine own with information i got from the net, i'm using the classic low t blocker pill and phytoestrogen pills which are extremely weak, considering now to switch them to conjugated estrogens or a strong form of estradiol like estrace

what do you guys think?

by the way i don't really mind if i grow small boobs

You should read the thread entitled "Extreme Danger" Where I almost killed myself doing what you're thinking about. I'm still not out of the woods, so you don't want to be another dummy either. Do it the right way under qualified medical supervision or forget it.
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ativan

Quote from: StarPixie on January 03, 2013, 08:23:42 AM
alright you guys win, i will seek a doctor as it seems the better thing to do,  but i wonder if they do encourage low dose hrt?
You can in MN. I had absolutely no problem. For over a year now.
If you want, maybe you could tell us were you are,
Hopefully someone here may know where you can go, or what options you have.
It is becoming very commonplace, as the number of people who are on low dose increases.
The place I go to, is more than willing to share information to Doctors, therapist, Psychiatrists, etc.
They are one of the go to places for information.
PHS UofMn. They literally helped right the book on this.
http://www.phs.umn.edu/policy/home.html
I have worked with Dr Bockting and still work with Dr Feldman.
I'm going to see her today, in fact.
Ativan
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Melanie Anne

Wow this is amazing. HI!! Anyone still out there!? I somehow lost track of this thread and to be honest, this forum in general. I found my way back here by doing a Google search and as I was reading the thread I thought "Wow, this sounds familiar". Didn't even realize I was the one who started it at first.

So update time? Still no HRT for me. I tried to "get over it" for a while. That didn't work. I tried being more feminine in dress and mannerisms. That sort of worked - until I would see myself in the mirror and either felt I was looking at a stranger when not dressed or that I looked like a freak when dressed.

I told my GP that I was trans and interested in HRT. She seemed pretty uncomfortable with the whole topic but told me she would try to find a suitable endo and give me a referral. Got that and went to my appointment with the endo. He had no clue why I was there (I kind of assumed there was some communication between GP and endo) and was completely thrown when I told him. He started asking some questions that made me feel really uncomfortable and showed me he had no idea where I was coming from. He told me he just didn't know enough to give me a script but he would research and get back to me. Well, I got a voicemail from him a few days later that was "If you want to proceed with this, I guess I can give you the prescriptions". I never called back. I want a doctor who wants to help me.

So - my wife had her first ultrasound yesterday. She's 8 weeks pregnant! So I don't have to worry about that aspect now. We still have a great sex life so I still want to try to keep "it" working. After all my research, I think if I keep using it and I want it to work, it will. Maybe nothing will come out, but who cares.

I'm still not sure about a full transition. I've dabbled with my voice but I'm too embarrassed to even practice at home. I bought a wig that I love, but can't keep the bangs out of my face. I think it just needs a trim. I'm prepared to go wherever HRT will take me. (If I'm totally honest, the only thing keeping me from a full transition is the fear of what other people will think). I got back in touch with the Mazzoni clinic who should be much more prepared to help me than the local endo and my first appointment is in two weeks.

There's my update. I can't believe this thread has grown as it has. I love how supportive you all are and can't thank you all enough for having this resource.
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kinz

yo!

mazzoni's cool, they do my hrt, they're down with nonbinary people, and stuff, and informed consent is sweet and so much more convenient than having to prove to some therapist that you ain't out of your head, or something. 

as far as doin' the horizontal tango on hrt, i mean, i was using it just fine on, like, astronomical doses of e, right before surgery.  i feel like there's definitely a psychological component to keeping stuff working down there!  gotta want it to work it, i guess?

voice practice is important!  i'm trying to get my singing voice back after my trach shave went south :( but i'm working at it, and you gotta do it really frequently for it to be effective!  if it makes you embarrassed to do it at home, my suggestion is to do it in the car, if you have one!  even if you don't end up wanting to go for a different voice in public, it never hurts to be able to pull off whatever voice you like, and hey, singing's fun.  even with my speaking voice, i never did any of these, like, voice training or voice therapy programs, i just kinda figured it out on my own because i just messed with my voice like hours a day for a while.

the one thing i will say about "full transition" re: being nonbinary and stuff is that it's sort of the sort of thing that feels terrifying to start, feels terrifying during, but when i actually finished up and ended up on the other side i forget the bad parts and it just seems laughable that i ever THOUGHT it would be so bad.  in retrospect though memory is kinder, so like, if what's holding you back is fear, remember that if you can work up the courage to do it that you won't have to face the scary stuff (at least, not that specific scary stuff) when it's over, y'know?
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Jamie D

Quote from: Melanie Anne on March 01, 2013, 11:20:12 AM
Wow this is amazing. HI!! Anyone still out there!? I somehow lost track of this thread and to be honest, this forum in general. I found my way back here by doing a Google search and as I was reading the thread I thought "Wow, this sounds familiar". Didn't even realize I was the one who started it at first....

So - my wife had her first ultrasound yesterday. She's 8 weeks pregnant! So I don't have to worry about that aspect now. We still have a great sex life so I still want to try to keep "it" working. After all my research, I think if I keep using it and I want it to work, it will. Maybe nothing will come out, but who cares....

There's my update. I can't believe this thread has grown as it has. I love how supportive you all are and can't thank you all enough for having this resource.

Congratulations on the new addition to the family Melanie.

Glad you found your way back.
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Shantel

Quote from: Jamie D on March 01, 2013, 04:46:41 PM
Congratulations on the new addition to the family Melanie.

Glad you found your way back.

Yeah, welcome back girl!
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