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Will Laser treatments be less effective on me, due to my complexion?

Started by Jen-Jen, March 15, 2012, 04:37:05 AM

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Jen-Jen

Hi all,
I have heard that due to my dark complexion, I am not a good candidate for laser hair removal. I have been advised that it will not be very effective on me.  Is this true? I have no idea about how laser works this is just hear say from friends. Its only stuff they have heard, due to none of them have had any laser sessions. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Padma

Laser works best on dark hair in fair skin. This is because it works by heating the dark pigment in the hair follicle. If the skin is darker or tanned, it absorbs some of the energy of the laser, making it less effective (and can burn the skin).

Since you're not very dark-skinned, I'd recommend visiting a few laser operatives and asking their opinion. They should be straight with you, as they're not interested in lawsuits from burns! Best get advice from the horse's mouth.
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Cindy

Hi

Laser works by passing energy into the dark follicle are of the hair. Dark hair has a dye called melanin. This absorbs the energy from the laser and the hair follicle is destroyed. In a few days the remaining hair grows out of the skin and is not replaced. We have hair follicles growing at different  times, it is a cycle. So laser has to be repeated every 6 weeks or so to hit the follicles that become active, hence the repetition we have to have. Now dark hair on light coloured skin absorbs the energy 'best' so people with that combination often have a good outcome. Too fair skin can burn from the laser power and that is a danger, too dark a skin can also burn because the skin contains melanin as well, which is the dye that make a colour difference in human racial groups. So a dark skinned person is not a good candidate for laser hair removal. Also blonde, grey and light coloured hair do not contain much melanin so they are not destroyed. So no matter your skin pigmentation, light coloured hairs are generally not affected.

Given all of that you need to shave before laser treatment, anywhere on your body, as you want to kill the follicle, a dark hair will also 'burn' with the laser but it just destroys the hair and not the follicle, it also smells like burning hair :laugh:.

I have two Indian girl friends (Continental Indian)  who are dark skinned, they have had laser on their face and other body parts quite successfully. But Continental Indians tend to have very black hair so a good technician can work on them.

Laser treatment can be expensive and dangerous. I went to a place that specialises on poly ovarian cystotic patients, who are woman who develop body hair due to a hormonal problem. My laser techs were all enrolled nurses and used high power lasers. They were very careful and did lots of spot checks. They were fantastic. I felt total confidence and was very happy with my outcomes. They also gave me heaps of advice on skin care in general, and were totally accepting of my TG, even though I was the first they had worked on.

It can be painful, some people describe it as firing a rubber band into your skin. My upper lip was very painful and is the one I have to get retreated. My last retreatment for my upper lip was 5 months after the previous. It took ten minutes.

I think I have spent in the region of $AUD2-3,000 maybe less. I don't shave my face anymore and I can get away with minimal foundation.

I was kissed on my cheek by a girl colleague who knew I was having laser, her comment was you skin is so smooth.

Loved it.

You get what you pay for. There are cowboys out there.

Hugs and good luck

Cindy
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luna nyan

Laser is basically concentrated light of a certain frequency that is intense enough to heat/burn something.  It's like a charged up version of the old magnifying glass under the sun burning paper.

There are a lot of different lasers on the market, and basically they are tuned to burn certain colours.  The ones for hair removal are tuned to remove darkish brown to black, so if you have dark skin naturally or have a tan, it will be not be as effective and more likely to have a complication with the skin.  (Dark skin being close to the colour that the laser is designed to burn).

Please read this choice magazine article which covers a lot of good points about what to ask/look for if you're interested in having laser/IPL done.  When laser goes wrong, it's really really bad, so the person looking after you must know what they are doing.

http://www.choice.com.au/reviews-and-tests/food-and-health/beauty-and-personal-care/hair-removal/laser-hair-removal.aspx

P.S I'm not against laser at all,  they're fantastic in the right situation.
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Raya

It's not a matter of effectiveness per se, it's more about safety. Older lasers like Alexandrite and "Diode" lasers will be quite effective at burning your hair, but they'll take your skin with it. Newer Nd:YAG and Er:YAG (Neodymium/Erbium Yttruim Aluminium Garnet) lasers on the other hand, are a lot safer for dark skin. A handful of companies make these lasers, and they market them under lots of different names. I can't link right now, so search for "Nd:YAG laser models" and you'll find all you'll need.

I'm a Fitzpatrick V and I've had excellent results with a Sciton Nd:YAG laser.

Anyway, some general advice:


  • Take any recommendations from light skinned friends with a grain of salt; they're part of a completely different market.
  • BBL and IPL are a waste of time. Especially for you.
  • Be sure to shop around, and I mean it. I called more than two dozen places and only came up with three decent leads. Some places were charging four times as much as I'm paying per treatment.
  • IMHO, techs attached to larger plastic surgery practices > "medical spas" > laser shop chains.
  • Don't be meek. Ask them all sorts of questions about what their methods and equipment are. You need to know this.
  • Tell them you have dark skin. It's an important test to see how honest and competent they are. Lots of shops who have nothing but Alexandrites will be more than happy to take your money. Some lasers like Diodes can be turned down far enough to safely work, but it will take an ungodly amount of sessions to see results.
  • Tell them you're trans. It's just like the beauty salon. You don't have typical male needs, and they need to know that to help you. Chances are, you're far from the first trans woman they've worked with. Besides, you might just get a discount. ;)
  • Reputable laser techs are more than happy to do a test spot beforehand. If they pressure you to commit to something before you either of you know whether it'll even work, run, don't walk, away.
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Gretchen

There's only one true form of permanent hair removal, electrolysis.
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smooth

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