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MTF with a lot of "male" hobbies?

Started by Trixie, May 01, 2012, 11:12:26 AM

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Adrasteia

I let a lot of this type of thinking help rationalize my decision not to deal with my feelings, but eventually it clashed right up against the realization and knowledge that there were still women all around me in whatever hobbies I was into.  I've actually got a playlist on Spotify that I have been spending a lot of time with that features some of the most brutal women to grace extreme heavy metal. It's been very calming and stabilizing for me while I get things started with therapy et al
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Nov413

Pshh, interests are entirely superficial. It has nothing to do with how you identify.
In other news, I for one am obsessed with soccer. I just can't get enough. Considering how sports are overall "manly," I think that would qualify.
There's a lot of others, but it's more up to debate.
"Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air." - John Adams
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Violet Bloom

Quote from: ShiningStar on June 08, 2012, 11:55:54 PM
Pshh, interests are entirely superficial. It has nothing to do with how you identify.
In other news, I for one am obsessed with soccer. I just can't get enough. Considering how sports are overall "manly," I think that would qualify.
There's a lot of others, but it's more up to debate.

Hah, that's really funny given how a lot of North Americans think soccer is a wimpy sport, especially given all the diving ;)  Now women's soccer, there's a tough game!  I'd get trampled to death.  It's also funny given just how many closet homosexual men there are in North American football and all the denial surrounding it.

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MagicKitty

I saw a youtube video addressing this. We grew up in the wrong body. We do stuff to fit in, and it's very easy to grow to like many things. I know that I enjoy a lot of masculine things. It's normal. I'm an ourdoorsman/woman... people see men as more of an outdoors person, but it's not going to change my actions and what I do in the future.
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Sera

This may already have been stated, but hobbies do not have reproductive organs. They are asexual and unisex. I say leave it at that!
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Nov413

Quote from: Violet Bloom on June 09, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
Hah, that's really funny given how a lot of North Americans think soccer is a wimpy sport, especially given all the diving ;)  Now women's soccer, there's a tough game!  I'd get trampled to death.  It's also funny given just how many closet homosexual men there are in North American football and all the denial surrounding it.

Don't watch of American soccer, but I totally know what you're talking about.
Now Rugby, that's a tough sport.

Quote from: Sera on June 11, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
This may already have been stated, but hobbies do not have reproductive organs. They are asexual and unisex. I say leave it at that!

ditto!
"Courage and perseverance have a magical talisman, before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish into air." - John Adams
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jessigurl

I know its an older topic but Thank you for this thread and especially this!!!

Quote from: Sephirah on May 01, 2012, 12:19:01 PM
http://www.theesa.com/facts/gameplayer.asp

  • The average gamer is 37 years old and has been playing for 12 years.

  • Eighty-two percent of gamers are 18 years of age or older.

  • Forty-two percent of all players are women and women over 18 years of age are one of the industry's fastest growing demographics.

  • Today, adult women represent a greater portion of the game-playing population (37 percent) than boys age 17 or younger (13 percent)

Not really what I'd call an entirely male pursuit. :)

I have been playing RPG games since i was 5 years old and i love them. I also know how to play guitar and i know my way around a pc. I was feeling so self conscious about this issue just a few minutes ago, then i read this thread! feel so much better now!
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Joelene9

#87
  I never got into my sisters' dolls, even though we played house every once in a while.  The hobbies I did were science based and considered male.  My astronomy club had one female member in the late 1950's and she boasted about it when she dropped into town once.  Today it is still with an average age of 55 and male, the two female (excluding myself) E-board members are much younger than the rest of us.  The kids that trickle in are mostly female. 
  Most of the new postgrads are female.  But the top positions in the professional astronomy field are mostly male and there are quite a few areas that's still a boys' club, even though there are plenty of experienced female astronomers that could fill those positions.  Vas ceiling ut astrum, The glass ceiling to the stars. 
  Joelene
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MaidofOrleans

From my experience, every "male" hobby I love has plenty of "female" participants. I don't believe that hobbies or things you enjoy are gender specific, and any relation to gender is simply socially constructed.

It goes the other way as well. There is a good looking straight guy that I work with who is very masculine but openly confesses that he loves shopping, clothes and shoes even more than most girls he knows.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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cynthialee

I am a soft butch I quess you could say.

I like my girly things and do wear make up sometimes, but most the time I am a jeans and tshirt kinda girl.

I like to shoot black powder fire arms. I like to hunt. I like heavy metal music and hard rock. I like action films and tv shows. I have a crude sense of humor on occasion. And when it is time to get into a confrontation there is something in me that flips and I start to enjoy the conflict and will seek to enflame emotions and rhetoric imediatly.

Yet there is no part of me that isn't female.
We have a couple of black powder guns...you should see the arsenal of modern weapons some of the cis females around here have. I may hunt the occasional bandit coyote for killing my chickens, women around here go on moose and elk hunts! My music tastes are not unheard of for girls, just not common. And plenty of women like the same movies and tv shows I like.

There are no intrinsicly male or female interests and hobbies. No interest is gendered.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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nyx

When starting HRT I thought maybe I would lose my love for certain hobbies I loved. I always loved cars, not just any cars but the good ones:) you know bmw m cars, etc. I am not as strong as I used to be so i have to work smarter not harder, which is a change I like. My love for certain things like fashion is getting bigger because I am able to wear the clothes I like now. Essentially I am still me and still love what I love. In certain ways now that I feel better i am able to make more practical decisions(not that I think being practical is the answer, just being practical for yourself, like do I buy another car or do I get this nice apartment, or do i buy a car or do I save up for SRS). So, yes do what it is that you love, if you think it will build too much muscle or its not giving you the reprieve from manilihood, then let it go for awhile. I find that I had to stop being around certain people and situations because they just made me feel more masculine when I didnt want that.
Nyx(Nikki)
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aleon515

Didn't the women's movement make it possible for women to do and be whatever they want?
So go ahead and be who you are (imo). Women are all different.

I hang out a lot with ftms and haven't noticed that they (or is it we??) all talk about knitting and fashion. Yeah there is talk re: what helps ftms look more male.

I don't think gendered interests exist. Yeah there are perhaps things that are MORE common for women to be interested in. But it is based on nurture not nature. The reason a lot of mtfs like cars and so on, is because they hung out with their dads in the formative years working with cars. I submit if you took a bunch of little girls and had them hang out with their dads working on cars a goodly number would love cars.

It is said that girls don't like so much rough and tumble? Why then are there so many tomboys? It's just normal fun play that everybody both boy and girl like.

--Jay Jay
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henrytwob

The idea of "guy hobbies and girl hobbies should be totally dead. BUT they are NOT. I see a lot of others posting about "cross gender hobbies". And lot of what they say is true. But there is a catch - let me tell you because I get caught in EVERY TIME.  You might like shooting. Hey, I'm in Texas, we love our guns. But do you think when my exhusband ever went shooting/ hunting with his friends i was invited along? No way. The fact that I am physically still a girl ( working on that) mean that I get excluded from any "guy things" with many groups. I have almost NO female hobbies - I have horses, and horse are gender neutral - but other than that, its a problem. I get shuttled off the "women's groups". I have very little in common with the people. It has been very difficult. Don't let anyone fool you.

If you want to shoot with women, you'll be fine, but you may not be shooting with men anymore.

As for science - I used to teach science, more women are graduating from med schools than men. There are plenty of women into math and science. That category needs  to listed as gender neutral.

You will find people who share your intersts, I am just warning you that as a female, you might find it harder than you think. I have no female friend that shoot.  I have no female friends who work on cars. As you can see, this forum has some, but they are not obvious in the general community.

Good luck
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aleon515

@henrytwob-- Yeah I agree with that too. I would have guessed there are gal's gun clubs and gal's car clubs. I know there are gal's biking. Lots of gals seem to like those bikes. I have a girly friend who has a lavender Harley.

I agree too that you won't be shooting or working on cars with the guys.

Here's a little fluff piece: http://suite101.com/article/womens-car-clubs-gaining-speed-a404166

I agree with you that science should not be gendered. But a friend of mine is working on girls in science. The no. of females in biology is about 50% whereas the no. in physics and chemistry is much much lower still. (I would guess math is even lower.) There may some brain gender stuff going on here.


--Jay Jay
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Ms Bev

Please don't let yourself get wrapped up in "gender-specific" interests.  Marcy would say I'm very feminine, but I still love fishing, especially fly fishing, and fish regularly with my daughter.  The guys thinks it's wonderful.....we generally out-fish them, so we get a special respect.  Now, the guy at the gun shop can't let me out the door........"I'm sorry" he said, "I just don't get to talk to a lady about guns very often.....I hope I didn't take too much of your time Miss......"
And the guys at the range fell over each other to refit 2 magazines for my little Mark I Ruger from spare parts......."aw.....didn't cost us anything......no charge"
And I am the respected stick-fighting teacher of my grandson.   Now, that's not very lady-like, doing moves with sticks and canes to take down most adult males......but he sees me as Nana....as mentor, and as his science teacher, and as his mechanics instructor.  I can't let that go; don't want to.  But I also adore cooking, and have taken to playing harp......gardening, placing lovely garden fairies in the leaves, and trees....no.....not very manly.  Thank God.
1.) If you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance. 
Bev
2.) The more I talk to my married friends, the more I
     appreciate  having a wife.
Marcy
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aibeecee

As many other posters I cannot imagine of any benefit if I would have artificially changed to more feminine hobbies after I came out. For me it was simple. When I was younger and still lived as a man I learnt to like specific activities which I had access to. Of course, I would rather have preferred to do more things that women of my age did. But this was not possible at that time.

Until an old schoolmate ask me about my former interests a couple of weeks ago, I honestly never really bothered whether they are more masculine or feminine. As long as one doesn't affect other people's freedom with a specific interest, one should do what they like.


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Jen-Jen

Nope!  I Still like fast cars, guns and other girly things!

Don't judge a book by its cover! My lifes been like a country song! True love, amazing grace, severe heartbreak, buckles, boots n spurs! I 've been thrown off the bull a couple times, I keep getting up and dusting myself off! Can't give up on my happily ever after!
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Amazon D

I love to build stuff and soon i will build stuff like the following

https://www.facebook.com/naturalhomes


but here is some of the stuff i built in the last yr since febuary





see more of my farm here http://directory.ic.org/22661/Central_Pa_Mountain_farm___for_Hip_open_minded_people
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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Miharu Barbie

Quote from: Jen-Jen on July 28, 2012, 10:05:21 AM
Nope!  I Still like fast cars, guns and other girly things!


Oh my gosh, Jen!  You are way too adorable for words!!!  Thanks for making me smile.... winky blinky.

Hugs!
Miharu
FEAR IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!


HRT:                         June 1998
Full Time For Good:     November 1998
Never Looking Back:  Now!
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Violet Bloom

Amazon, that stuff is way cool!  I'm not likely to go living in such a house but I greatly appreciate the hard work and the creativity that goes into those.  I took a gander at your photos.  My favourite flower is the Tiger Lily - do you know what variety that is you have there?  Also, CATS!

BTW, nice to see you smiling for the camera ;)  I hope no "cheese" was harmed in the making.

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