i need some help with blocking my testosterone

[Angelique1994]

i already look femine and i wanna make sure i stay this way. i may not get any hormones for another year and i dont want my looks to turn masculine in a year. do any of yall know  any meds that i can buy off counter to block testosterone. please help me im like ready to cry cause my looks are my everything

[GhostTown11]

No. There is nothing short of hormones that you can do to significantly reduce your T. Well, you could castrate yourself but that would be painful and stupid.

[Carbon]

No. There is nothing short of hormones that you can do to significantly reduce your T. Well, you could castrate yourself but that would be painful and stupid.

Um, yeah, people have died from trying to do that and if you're really unlucky they'll manage to save you but they'll also "repair" them.

I've been talking to another trans lady is really big on informed consent places, meaning that you don't have to get "the letter" and you agree to take responsibility for your own treatment.

This exists:
https://www.susans.org/wiki/Informed_consent

I get the feeling that there are not a ton of informed consent places but that's definitely not everywhere that exists on that list.

[GhostTown11]

But Angelique is still a minor so Informed Consent doesn't apply to her :/.

[Carbon]

ohhhh

sorry

The law is terrible to minors isn't it?

[Olivia-Anne]

I've heard and tried spearment tea. Im not sure how much of it is a placebo effect and how much of it works. From what I've heard/read it acts as a mild anti-androgen (not sure if i have that term right its late )But a difference I noticed was it slowed down my beard growth a little bit. In a situation where every little bit helps, I assume it would be worth a shot. I bought it off amazon fairly cheap. Waiting seems unbearable sometimes, but all good things come to those who wait Good luck!

<3 Liv

[Tyler]

I drank a lot of spearmint tea and took a lot of flaxseed oil capsules. It's no where near as effective as Medical HRT, but it is helpful.

[mementomori]

id just tell your doctor " if you dont prescribe me hormones soon im going to buy them online and self medicate , so im going to be taking them regardless , but id rather be doing it safely given the chance "

im mean threatening them in that way might work :p ( btw im not adovocating self medication , im advocating a way to push the doctors into giving medication to her )

[Angelique1994]

id just tell your doctor " if you dont prescribe me hormones soon im going to buy them online and self medicate , so im going to be taking them regardless , but id rather be doing it safely given the chance "

im mean threatening them in that way might work :p ( btw im not adovocating self medication , im advocating a way to push the doctors into giving medication to her )

I've accually tried telling my gender therapist that and she told me that she could also put me in a mental institution if I'm talking bout self medicating

[Carbon]

They need to demonstrate that you are a "threat to self or others" to put you in a mental institution... however this is pretty subjective and functionally if the parents want it they can often do it. However, your therapist CANNOT just put you in a mental institution.

NEVER tell your therapist (trigger warning I guess):
That you are thinking about killing yourself. Espicially not planning to.
That you self injure.
That you're planning to attack someone else.

Taking a medication that they don't think you should take that is not even a mental health medication... that doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't think she could do it unless she has "dirt" on you (like you saying that you're suicidal). Even if she does, if you tell the mental institution that no you DON'T have thoughts of harming yourself, you're not suicidal, etc (even if you are feeling that way NEVER NEVER NEVER tell a mental institution that) then they probably can't keep you. If they did it would be almost gauranteed to be under a week, probably a day or two.

Ex mental institution inmate here.

[Asfsd4214]

They need to demonstrate that you are a "threat to self or others" to put you in a mental institution... however this is pretty subjective and functionally if the parents want it they can often do it. However, your therapist CANNOT just put you in a mental institution.

NEVER tell your therapist (trigger warning I guess):
That you are thinking about killing yourself. Espicially not planning to.
That you self injure.
That you're planning to attack someone else.

Taking a medication that they don't think you should take that is not even a mental health medication... that doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't think she could do it unless she has "dirt" on you (like you saying that you're suicidal). Even if she does, if you tell the mental institution that no you DON'T have thoughts of harming yourself, you're not suicidal, etc (even if you are feeling that way NEVER NEVER NEVER tell a mental institution that) then they probably can't keep you. If they did it would be almost gauranteed to be under a week, probably a day or two.

Ex mental institution inmate here.

Always nice to see a fellow crazy house inmate. 

Yeah, your psych threatening to institute you is a complete abuse if power and in most countries unlawful.

I'd immediately see another psych. Any psychiatrist who thinks they have the right to threaten to put you in a mental hospital for any reason other than the usual Danger-to-self-or-others, which most definitely does not include self medication (there is no intent of doing harm to yourself and your request is in a desire to NOT do harm to yourself), has no right to be a psych and I think should be in jail for gross abuse of power.

But as the previous poster said, in any first world country the law generally says that the psych trying to put you in the crazy house is not allowed to be the psych to decides if you have to stay there or not. Generally you can't be involuntarily committed without parental consent (if a minor) and/or a court order.

In Australia all the crazy houses or wards I've been on have been required to display signs explaining "Your rights as an involuntary inpatient".

[Tori]

This stuff takes time baby girl, even for legal adults.

I suggest you do everything you can to be ready for a prescription the day you turn 18.

I know children can legally be put on puberty blockers but I don't know if they are effective once puberty begins. At your age, perhaps you can go on Spiro, to find similar results. Not sure about the legality though so you may have to wait till 18.

Still, it is best to use this time to get your ducks in a row so you can start as soon as legally possible.

Your therapist is the key to your prescription. You may want to look for a new one. But any therapist worth their salt will be looking for signs of maturity from you. You are a child in the eyes of the law, and suggesting self-medication to any therapist, especially at your age, will set of all kinds of alarms.

Patience is required for every person who transitions. It takes time to get hormones. It takes more time for the hormones to balance out and do their thing. If you are not patient at the start of the process, the process itself will teach you to learn to be patient.

[GhostTown11]

But she has been at it for like a year in therapy. Also, she has been full-time to pre-hrt so I doubt that by now she is not 100% sure about this. And it's horrible because she could avoid a lot of pain if she were just given an hrt prescription.

[pretty]

Licorice root is antiandrogenic. You can buy it in vitamin stores and wherever. Do your research on the amounts though because there are side effects if you have too much.

[Tori]

But she has been at it for like a year in therapy. Also, she has been full-time to pre-hrt so I doubt that by now she is not 100% sure about this. And it's horrible because she could avoid a lot of pain if she were just given an hrt prescription.

I completely agree. The laws don't. Depending on where you live, there are different laws to uphold and different hoops to jump through.

I do not think she will be able to go on hormones where she lives until she is 18. I am less clear about perscribing AA's. She may at least be able to block her masculine development while she waits for hormones.

[bullwinklle]

I don't know you situation, but do your parents know about this? Surely if you had their consent, you'd be able to get on hormones or at least have more leverage in obtaining them.

If they know and are against it, that obviously won't help, but if you haven't told them, that may well be your only viable option for getting safe/legal hormones.

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

The herbs saw palmetto, and chaste tree have shown to help also.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/313307-herbal-testosterone-blocker/#ixzz1xohl4L6K

[peky]

I looked at the medical evidence for herbal alternatives, and the results are not encouraging. The amounts of herbs you will have to swallow to see any significant effect are enormous. You will barf!! So, do not waist your money.

A word of warning: some herb formulation may contain heavy metals that can poison you or even kill you.

[Angelique1994]

I don't know you situation, but do your parents know about this? Surely if you had their consent, you'd be able to get on hormones or at least have more leverage in obtaining them.

If they know and are against it, that obviously won't help, but if you haven't told them, that may well be your only viable option for getting safe/legal hormones.

Everyone that knows me where I live knows how i am including my parents for a year almost. My mom is ok wit me taking hrt but my dad is completely against it

[GhostTown11]

Everyone that knows me where I live knows how i am including my parents for a year almost. My mom is ok wit me taking hrt but my dad is completely against it

I am so sorry about your situation Angelique. Why is your dad refusing HRT? Does he realize that as soon as you turn 18 you'll go out and get those hormones faster than...well I don't know just really fast.  I mean, you are already living full-time. They know that this is not a phase by now so what's the hold up?