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Time line & self evaluation

Started by kimmie, April 11, 2007, 05:15:05 PM

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kimmie

My therapist ask me to put on paper a time line. and I want to know how to evaluate when to go full time.
      do I wait until I start geting ma'am? does anyone have any perspective on this subject.
       kimmie
      ps help
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ellen b

When I was going through the initial process, I had the good luck to have a sister who loves and supported me.

I went out, and got a few looks here and there, but mostly everyone didn't pay attention.

I let the people at work know what was going on, and it was interesting, but I didn't complete my transition before leaving/moving.

I wish you the best, and am sure there will be many here who will have some good information/responses.

peace.
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kimmie

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seldom

The time line should include ranges, as you do not know how quickly things will develop.  Generally speaking the younger you are the more likely you will go full time sooner (the hormones are faster acting). 
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Rashelle

A time line depends on you and you alone. It incorporates your feelings and needs into your specific situation in the environment you live in. So all I can say is to go at your own pace and not to rush into things.
Rashelle
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kimmie

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KarenLyn

Like Rashelle says "go at your own pace"

I can only tell you about me because that's all I know. My transition was like an avalanche. I went from coming out to full time in 10 months. I changed my name legally while still presenting as male at work. When I went full time, I had only been on hormones for 2 months and only had a couple hours of electrolysis. I didn't think I would ever pass. It didn't matter.

That was 10 years ago. I have a wonderful boyfriend, a great job and a beautiful home.  Just shows, anything is possible.

♫  Karen Lyn  ♪
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kimmie

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Kate

Quote from: KarenLyn on April 13, 2007, 10:58:25 PM
Like Rashelle says "go at your own pace"

I can only tell you about me because that's all I know. My transition was like an avalanche. I went from coming out to full time in 10 months. I changed my name legally while still presenting as male at work. When I went full time, I had only been on hormones for 2 months and only had a couple hours of electrolysis. I didn't think I would ever pass. It didn't matter.

And that's the warning.

It's smart to lay out a plan, just to have some direction. But be prepared to just throw it away, because the GID will eventually dictate what you do and when. I have a number of people telling me to "wait until society tells you you're female" before going fulltime. And yes, that makes practical sense. But it isn't working for me... I'm crumbling inside, and just CANNOT wait. It's not a choice, it's not that I "want" to do it, it's that I MUST. Even though I don't pass much - or heck, I actually don't really know if I do or not. I'm super-confused right now about where I am and what's going on with how people see me.

The other thing is... at some point during transition, while you're waiting and wondering when to go "fulltime," you may just one day realize that you ARE "fulltime" in most ways - you ARE there, and society has been screeeeaming at you that you've arrived for some time, lol... but your fears and insecurities were drowning it out. Really.. it might happen, lol...

Kate
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Feral Cat

I am a meticulous planner.  I designed my transition as though I were launching a business, with every event carefully planned.... including contingencies and counter plans.

When I officially started the process, I selected a memorial date to go full time.  I decided that it is better to have a date set than to keep procrastinating and waiting for the "right moment" which never seems to come.  By having a date set, it put the oneness on me to have all my ducks in a row and have the bulk of my electrolysis completed.

So, on 05/05/05 at 05:55 in the morning I walked into the employee cafeteria at my job and silently announced, "This is my full time date".  (The sound of forks dropping onto plates was deafening :) )

This may not work for you, but it worked for me and a lot of other girls.

Pam
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Lisbeth

At no point in this process could I have ever made a time-line.  I have gone dragging my feet all the way, and only taking each step when I had no choice left.  And I never did anything in the "right" order.  But, looking back, I did it my way, only following the SoC when I absolutely had to.

So now that I have your attention...

I dressed in female clothes all the time for two years before I transitioned.  I transitioned more than two years before I started hormones.  I stopped using the men's restroom after I started scaring the men into leaving every time.  And whether I was called "sir" or "maam" never played a part in any of those things.
Quote from: Kate on April 14, 2007, 12:20:40 PM
I have a number of people telling me to "wait until society tells you you're female" before going fulltime. And yes, that makes practical sense.
I don't think that makes any sense at all.  If I were to follow that advise, I would still be stuck at the beginning.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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Kate

Quote from: Lisbeth on April 25, 2007, 12:53:30 PM
I dressed in female clothes all the time for two years before I transitioned.  I transitioned more than two years before I started hormones.  I stopped using the men's restroom after I started scaring the men into leaving every time.  And whether I was called "sir" or "maam" never played a part in any of those things.

Ah Lisbeth, you're becoming my heroine. This speaks to my *heart*.

Quote from: Lisbeth
Quote from: Kate on April 14, 2007, 12:20:40 PM
I have a number of people telling me to "wait until society tells you you're female" before going fulltime. And yes, that makes practical sense.
I don't think that makes any sense at all.  If I were to follow that advise, I would still be stuck at the beginning.

I agree, as that reasoning speaks to my (many) *fears*.

Do I listen to my heart? Or to my fears? Hmmmm... ponder...

~Kate~
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cindianna_jones

The GID pushed me so hard and so fast that as soon as everyone found out about "my problem", I could not contain it.  I went full time immediately.  I had been out a lot en femme in public however over the previous years when I was on business trips.  I had also been living alone for a few months and presented myself en femme as often as I could. I had some electro to the point to where my face had been cleared and the swelling in my face had subsided. I had just started taking hormones.  I passed fairly well by the time I showed up to work in a skirt.

Time line? Had I written one, it would have been invalid the very first day. There was no stopping me... at least I thought.  The religious and family pressures put me in the hospital with a break down within just a few short weeks. 

But the medical staff in that institution were very kind to me and kept external forces at bay for a few days and helped me see me that I needed to take care of my life. After I got out, I resigned, moved to another state, and lived my life as "Cindi" from that point forward.

Cindi
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melissa90299

About three years ago, I just told myself, I can do this, dam the torpedoes, full speed ahead, in July, I will be complete, I can't believe I pulled it off, but it is amzing what can be done when one decides to do it.
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debbiej

My time line vacillates daily between right now and never ever.

Sorry, I'm not much help.

Debbie
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Chaunte


Time lines are difficult because, as so many people have said, they are very individual.

My transition to full time is dictated by the academic year.  I was not going to transition during the school year - the overall ramifications were far too great.

Since I was forced into a seperation from my spouse, I have been living part time as me, and doing so has given me courage to go forward.  Yes, I get a few looks walking into the plus-sized store I frequent.  Also had a few looks when I went to DMV and had a new photo taken.

My frame, weight and weight-distribution will prevent me from going stealth.  However, I have come to the conclusion that being able to seamlessly blend in is a fantasy.

So, back to time line.

My suggestion, and what I have used, is to lay out what needs to be done and when you can accomplish the tasks. 

This includes, but is not limited to:
making plans with your employer,
telling your family,
building a suport group of friends,
acquiring enough of a wardrobe for your profession,
getting the green light from your counselor,
getting the green light from your primary care physician,
getting the green light from an endocrinologist,
start getting rid of the facial hair,
date with a stylist to transform your looks,
laying out money to pay for it all
and, most importantly, being comfortable with the time you have laid out.

My original timeline was to transition in September '08.  SInce I was able to see the endocrinologist a lot faster than was expecting, fulltime will be September '07.

I have a lot to do and little time to do it in.  I am also rapidly reaching a crisis point, similar to what Cindi described.  I need to do this, and the need is gathering momentum.  My transition appears to be an open secret amongst the faculty & staff.  Present and former students are asking other teachers if I am gay.

Timelines must be flexible.  Remember, no operational plan ever survives initial contact.  (From Murphy's Laws of Combat.)  Make sure you let yourself expand or collaps the timeline to meet your needs.

Chaunte
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Rachael

go ft when YOU want to, not when people here say you should etc...

i know i pass, but going ft for me, is a feeling right stage in myself, im rapidly closeing on that, (i sortof am ft ish if not a little fem andro ><)
but it can also be forced physically, my boobs, and hot summer weather means hiding in a hoodie doesnt work anymore :)
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melissa90299

Quote from: Rachael on April 29, 2007, 12:25:55 AM
go ft when YOU want to, not when people here say you should etc...



Of course,but people can only relate their own experience. (and I found reading those experinces was helpful to me when I began transition) You take what is helpful or might be appropriate to one's own situation and leave the rest behind. For instance, anything I post would, in general, only be helpful to late transitioners.

One caveat though, IMO people should go FT when it's prudent not when they "want to" OTOH sometimes, "going fulltime" isn't a choice. It wasn't for me.
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Kate

Quote from: melissa90299 on April 29, 2007, 11:19:25 AM
IMO people should go FT when it's prudent not when they "want to"...

When does it become prudent though? I can't figure out if:

going fulltime now would be pushing too far too fast just because I want it NOW...

or

if NOT going fulltime now is simply giving in to my fears of being "read" (which IS going to happen)...

~Kate~
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