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Started by Edge, July 17, 2012, 10:41:51 PM

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Edge

Today was a crap day.
I had to wait for an hour after my doctor's appointment was supposed to start before being taken to a small room and had to wait some more. I finished my book within the first few minutes. The book hit really close to home. The appointment majorly sucked. I had to rescrew a curtain rod five times this evening.
The two worst things to day were the appointment and the reminder. I won't talk about the appointment because, well, it's tmi, but I have felt gross all day and want my lower regions gone. As for the book, I don't regret reading it, but it sure had a huge affect on my mood.
I don't know how to explain this... I'm a lot like Loki, and no, I'm not saying that just because I like him or because I want to be like him or for attention or anything. Actually, he's one of the few characters I like that I don't want to be like. When I first heard and read norse myths as a kid, I knew I was in the same position as him. When I steeled myself to watch the Marvel version of Loki and turned out to like him just as much, my first reaction was "Already have! Do not want!" That was just the movie where they barely show anything. This book showed a lot more, hence why I am so rattled by it.
How do I explain what it's like to someone?
How do I explain that I have no clue what it's like to have someone on my side? Someone willing to defend me. Heck, I don't even have the slightest clue what it's like to have someone who won't hurt me for trying to defend myself. To go even further, I defended my mother from my father and, thus, became his main target. She showed her gratitude by also abusing me. I know what it's like to have the people who hurt me go blameless while I am blamed for everything because, to them, I deserve it. That thing some people say about how "no one is allowed to hurt you?" Yeah, that one really throws me for a loop. How could I possibly explain that to people who don't know? How can I possibly explain how I was always the scapegoat, the hated one, the one hurt for other's amusement. How do I explain to people who think "stick and stones" that words not only hurt, but how the years of hearing them have affected me? How do I explain that, no matter what I do, am I always, always seen as inferior to them? Sure, I can be a jerk and I'm weird, but for some reason, others feel I deserve disproportionate retribution. No one who has hurt me has ever had any negative consequences. No one ever thinks less of them. The people who don't hurt me? Yeah, there's a few. They don't associate with me. They ignore me and the ignoring damages as well. How do I explain when no one will ever believe me that it came from all sides? That everyone I have ever loved and/or trusted became my enemies.
I feel like I was raised to be a villain. Oh I'm sure it wasn't intentional and I'm not trying to justify how I turned out. However, I still feel like I was raised to be a villain. Probably because I technically was since the events of my childhood and youth have led me to here. I knew for sure by the age of eleven what I was and it was obvious for I don't know how long before then.
I don't believe in fate, but I still find it hard to believe that I'm not fated to lose no matter what. I could take over the world and I would still be ridiculed. I could become an amazing scientist and I would still be looked down on. (Of course, that doesn't stop me from trying to reach my goals anyway since, heck, I want to for myself.)
I don't know if this coincidence or if there are more people like me than I think, but Loki's story (especially the Marvel Loki) is pretty much identical. All of this was explored in the book. Hence why it hit me so hard.
It pisses me off when people suggest therapy or that one "just needs a hug." It doesn't work that way. Hugs come with knives in the back. Therapy has helped, but it can't change reality.

For the record, I don't have depression. I am capable of a whole range of emotions. I do, in fact, enjoy life a great deal. I'll destroy anyone who tries to take it away from me. I like myself because I am awesome. I will crush anyone who says different under my feet as I climb my way to being the most powerful person in the world. I may be destined to lose, but I'm going to put up a darn good fight because that is who I am and a fight is what I crave.
It's also important to note that, like Loki, I am good and loving father. It's not completely black and white. I am also not teaching my son any of this stuff that I picked up and, if he ends up a perpetual scapegoat as well, he'll at least have me.
Also, I don't mean destroy or crush literally (at least not physically). No one is worth the trouble that would cause.
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Jamie D

Don't let your pessimism become a self-defeating prophesy.

You are not "fated" for ridicule.

1. Be proactive
2. Begin with an end in mind
3. Put first things first
4. Think win-win
5. Seek first to understand, then to be understood
6. Synergize
7. Sharpen the saw

- Stephen Covey
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Dawn Heart

Edge,

May I PM you? Some of what you said resonated within me and I would like to share with you a portion of my life that I don't care to have in public. This is just to be supportive to you.
There's more to me than what I thought
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Edge

*raises eyebrow at Jamie* Even if you don't know not to make assumptions about others, it is common knowledge that one can't control the thoughts or actions of others. Unless one is capable of mind control, but that seems a little far fetched. I know from personal experience (I do have a whole range of emotions, despite what various idiots think) that the "power of positive thinking" doesn't do a darn thing to stop people and that seeking to understand people and being proactive only goes one way if only one person is doing it.
Go ahead, Dawn.
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justmeinoz

My post seems to have been lost in Cyberspace, so I'll redo it.

You could follow Kate Bornstein's suggestion to kill off a part of yourself you don't like.  It worked for me, I don't judge people any more.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Edge

Um... I like myself. I don't want to cut any part of myself (personality-wise anyway) for the sake of others. My self esteem isn't bad enough to do that to myself and I have no intention to let it get that bad. Or remain that bad if I ever get to that point.
Of course, the price for that is other people's hatred, but honestly, I would rather have their hatred and like myself than their hatred and hate myself.
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justmeinoz

I didn't mean physically, but an aspect of your personality that you are less than satisfied with.  For me it was being a bit judgemental of others, before knowing their whole story. 

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Edge

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justmeinoz

So much the better, that means you are a fair way ahead of a lot of the population.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Alexis

I'm really sorry you had a bad day

Quote from: Edge on July 18, 2012, 07:00:41 AM
Of course, the price for that is other people's hatred, but honestly, I would rather have their hatred and like myself than their hatred and hate myself.
What you said there really made me think of something, "I love you, and because I love you, I would sooner have you hate me for telling you the truth than adore me for telling you lies" - Pietro Aretino
By all means be yourself. You don't need to defend or explain who you are to anyone, as long as you're comfortable being you
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Nero

Quote from: Edge on July 18, 2012, 06:42:22 AM
*raises eyebrow at Jamie* Even if you don't know not to make assumptions about others, it is common knowledge that one can't control the thoughts or actions of others. Unless one is capable of mind control, but that seems a little far fetched. I know from personal experience (I do have a whole range of emotions, despite what various idiots think) that the "power of positive thinking" doesn't do a darn thing to stop people and that seeking to understand people and being proactive only goes one way if only one person is doing it.
Go ahead, Dawn.

Edge,

Why are you snapping at people trying to help you?
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Edge

I haven't snapped at anyone who has tried to help me. I have said what I believe is a relatively polite response to a poorly thought out post.
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Jamie D

It's okay, Edge.  I tend to reject negativity in my life, and focus on making things better.

The Covey suggestions have been very helpful to me.
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Edge

And that's great for you! Unfortunately, the Covey suggestions don't work in relationships where one person wants to hurt the other. I can understand how you wouldn't know that though. I hope you never have to experience why for yourself.
Please try to understand though that abuse survivors weren't hurt because they weren't proactive enough, didn't have an endgame, or didn't work hard enough to get along with their abusers. Quite the opposite. The survivors are the ones who gave up and left. The ones who didn't are either still being abused or dead.
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Nero

Quote from: Edge on July 19, 2012, 07:47:37 AM
And that's great for you! Unfortunately, the Covey suggestions don't work in relationships where one person wants to hurt the other. I can understand how you wouldn't know that though. I hope you never have to experience why for yourself.
Please try to understand though that abuse survivors weren't hurt because they weren't proactive enough, didn't have an endgame, or didn't work hard enough to get along with their abusers. Quite the opposite. The survivors are the ones who gave up and left. The ones who didn't are either still being abused or dead.

Edge,
No one was suggesting that. There's a lot going on your OP and although your history of abuse was mentioned, it wasn't clear that was the main point. We open with a doctor's appointment, a curtain rod, and a book that upset you. It then mentions a comic book character you don't want to be like and how you're fated to lose.
Do you see why people responded with the suggestions they did?

I'd also be careful assuming someone doesn't understand abuse dynamics or hasn't been through similar.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Edge

No, I don't. I assume people read the entire post if they are going to respond and not skip the biggest paragraph. If you have a problem with me that you feel needs to be discussed, can you please pm me instead of posting it publicly?
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Nero

Quote from: Edge on July 19, 2012, 10:48:27 AM
No, I don't. I assume people read the entire post if they are going to respond and not skip the biggest paragraph. If you have a problem with me that you feel needs to be discussed, can you please pm me instead of posting it publicly?

I don't have a problem with you. I was only pointing out that your responses to people trying to help you are a bit harsh.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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