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Off of T since May, and feeling awful (Rant)

Started by GentlemanRDP, July 23, 2012, 05:46:02 PM

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GentlemanRDP

The following may very well be completely nonsensical, You've been warned.

So, in order to see where I'm coming from, you're going to need some background. Seems appropriate enough, right? Yeah, I thought so too. As a kid, I always knew that I was 'different,' but I grew up believing that I was a straight little girl. My parents always told me I'd grow up, marry some handsome man, pop out a few babies, and die happy. But as I continued to grow up, I realized that that sort of life had no appeal to me. I didn't want to be the wife, and I didn't want to have children. During Junior High, I began to suffer from severe social anxiety, along with mild depression, and I went on medication. I went to several therapists and psychiatrists, and they believed that the root of these 'problems,' was a mixture between the divorce of my parents along with the wrist-cutting spree of my older sister. Naturally, I assumed they were right. So I continued on; I had a boyfriend when I was fifteen; we kissed, we touched, he tried to get further than I wanted, and I dismissed boy's altogether for a while. I was eighteen when I told my family and all of my friends that I was a lesbian. I thought that I figured out what was 'Wrong,' I dated three girls, and though I enjoyed their company more, I never even had the urge to kiss one of them. In the end, it just didn't feel right.

I hadn't even heard of the term 'Transgender' until I was sixteen or so, I looked into it from curiousity, but I never thought that that might be how I felt about myself. Years went by and I began to mentally refer to myself as a boy, I told my mother, and she humored me - thinking that I was just being odd. I was nineteen when I came out to my mother, and months later, I found myself in a situation where I was forced to tell my father and the rest of my family. I wasn't ready, but I did it anyway. My father told me that my stepmother knew a transsexual woman who worked with her. They gave me the number to a therapist and four months later, I was diagnosed with Gender Identity Disorder. I then went to a nurse and began testosterone injections, once a week. I've never been happier. I was on T for about a year, but in May of 2012, I had to stop filling my prescription because I was taken off of my stepfather's insurance and I could no longer afford it. My medicine went from being $60 every two and a half months, to being $113 for two and a half months worth.

My original plan was to hold onto the last two doses and use them when I got my period back. I would go back to the doctor's after moving out of my grandmother's house with my friends, by October. I thought that I could handle it, but the longer I'm without it, the more miserable I'm becoming. My facial hair is slowing, my voice has come to a standstill and will no longer deepen - I even wonder if it's becoming more high-pitched again, my sex-drive is dropping back down (Not that it matters) and I'm slowly starting to see my thighs growing again. At work, more and more of the customers are calling me a girl again; both on the phone and in person. And worst of all, last month, I had my first period for over a year. I felt like I was dying. I nearly puked when I saw the blood. I was sick and puking for days, on top of the cramps, and an awful migraine. But none of that was as bad as being reminded of what I was born as, of the organs that I'm carrying around that shouldn't even belong to me. My depression is coming back and getting worse every day, I'm trying to stay positive, but I just don't know how long I can keep it up. I'm getting irritable, and shy around people, I've become more insecure and paranoid. When I see guys or men that I aspire to be like, I get jealous of them, and I get angry. And even as I'm writing this, I'm probably getting close to short-circuiting the keyboard from sobbing all over it.

I want to go to the doctor, but I live in Utah, and there are less than 10 licensed doctors in the whole state who are willing to do HRT. I don't have a lot of money, my insurance is awful (Blame Walmart) and I'm desperately trying to save money to move out. I feel so stuck, so trapped, and I hate looking at myself in the mirror. Binding and packing only helps so much. With every single day that passes, I feel more and more like some kind of abnormal freak than a person. People stare at me in the streets, and I hear them whisper things about me. When I go into public restrooms, I get stares and glares no matter which one I go into. I'm trying so hard to remind myself that I can go back on T soon, that I just have to move out and that I can go back to the doctor and maybe to a therapist, but it's hard not having anyone who knows how to listen to me. My mother tries, but she doesn't understand and she's even told me that she doesn't see me as a boy. My father thinks I'm crazy. My grandmother thinks I'm disgusting. My sisters and their husbands make fun of me. My friends try to understand; some of them call me by the proper name and gender, and others don't even try. Customers at my work don't know what to call me, and stare at my chest as if looking for a hint either way. I feel so lost, like I'm stuck between two worlds, like some kind of freakish halfbreed that can't possibly hope to ever fit into either side. I hate the way that I feel about myself now, and I just don't know what to do with myself.

And it's certainly not helping that I'm going through a bit of a sexuality crisis. I don't even know if I'm capable of feeling attraction to a human being anymore. There are people that I find attractive, yes, but having sex with either gender isn't even remotely appealing to me. I want that closeness, I want someone that I can rely on and someone that I can lend my shoulder to. But I'm so fracking insecure with myself that I can't approach anyone. I'm screwed no matter how they feel about their own sexuality. I've dated guys before, I know they turn me on, but I've never been sexually touched by a woman. I haven't really had any experience. I like being around women, but I'd rather get closer to a man - even though I'm sure that I'd never allow them to have sex with me like a woman (The idea terrifies me half to death) I want to be able to feel something when someone that I find attractive hits on me, but I just...can't, and it scares me that I never will - I used to, but I wonder if witnessing my parents' divorce made me build walls around myself, and now no one can get through and I can't break them down.

I just feel so lost.

Sometimes, I wonder if I should just give up on my transition, if I should just stop it now. I'm scared that no matter how far I go with it, that it might not make me happy - that I'll always be jealous of other men, and that jealousy will keep me from ever connecting with one. Maybe I should just let nature take over? But, I know I wouldn't be happy with it, but at this point - where I can't be on T and where I'm stuck between genders, I'm definitely miserable. I hate feeling like such a failure, a quitter...I don't want to give up on it because of how far I've gotten, and then...I think of how many steps I've been taking backwards since I've stopped T.

I don't really know if I'm looking for advice, or pity here, but I just needed to get this out.

I'm planning on using some of my savings to go to the doctors in the next week or two. It kills me to have to use money that I've been saving for moving, but right now, I just feel like I don't have a choice anymore.
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Natkat

please do not worry about your sexualety right now, what your attracted to or not, is sorta unimportant for you at the moment.. love is love, details dosent matters and it will be showed when the time is there.

Transition is a hard worker, and being in the middle is one of the hardest parts..
pleast dont give up, you are a fighter,
relax for some days, and then fight for the rest, In one time it will come to you,
even if not, it would be worth a try. when you reach the bottom you can only go up.

I dont have much usefull advice to help for you,
but I hope this is okay.

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GentlemanRDP

I know it might sound silly to worry about my sexuality, but I'm only worried about it, because I'm afraid of not being able to feel anything for anyone - and sometimes, I'd really like to have someone who cared about me in a way that family and friends can't, you know, someone that I can come to and talk about this kind of stuff with honestly. You know...?

I appreciate your comments though :3
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Adio

Hang in there man.  Things will get better.  Focus on your goals--saving money, getting out.  Make mini goals and lists for yourself, even if it's just small stuff.  Feel good about the things you can accomplish now.

Utah seems to be a sucky state for trans people.  I live in the south so I understand religious, political, and cultural prejudice against anyone who is different from the 'norm'.  What I'm curious about is why you haven't tried a mail order pharmacy like Strohecker's or the Apothecary Shop?  $60 with either of those or similar would likely get you around 5 months worth.  Just something to think about.

Right now with your hormones being out of sorts, I wouldn't worry about your sexuality as much.  Things will right themselves in time.  Some people are asexual but not aromantic.  Give yourself some time to figure out the rest of your life, get back on T if that's what you want, and then your sexuality will likely fall into place.
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aleon515

How old are you that you are off your stepfather's insurance? Or was it your stepfather's choice? According to ObamaCare your dad can carry you on his insurance to age 26.
You might check out if there is low cost or sliding scale clinics.

I wouldn't worry about your sexual orientation. Just about any combination is ok. I am asexual. But I have a (low) drive (haven't taken T). You might check out www.asexuality.org
As adio mentions there are people who are romantic (like hugging and so on) but not sex.
Compared to transgender, sexuality is nothing.


I also agree with goals like saving money, leaving home, that sort of thing.

--Jay Jay
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Hayzer12

#5
Do you take injections? If you do, then why are you paying that much ....

Even CVS has a 10 ml vial for 80 bucks... and mom and pop pharmacies are a LOT cheaper.

If you don't take injections, you may seriously want to switch to them...
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Natkat

Quote from: GentlemanRDP on July 23, 2012, 06:51:37 PM
I know it might sound silly to worry about my sexuality, but I'm only worried about it, because I'm afraid of not being able to feel anything for anyone - and sometimes, I'd really like to have someone who cared about me in a way that family and friends can't, you know, someone that I can come to and talk about this kind of stuff with honestly. You know...?

I appreciate your comments though :3

it also a scary felling, but I think its unlikely, and I feel it to be very few people who dont have or get to feel something for anyone for there whole life.

My point is just that it wont help to worry about it, It wont sovle anything, so its better not to worry and just see how things work out. after all it dosen't matter whoever this is a guy a girl, if your gay or bi, or straight if you find someone you like, then your sexualety dosen't matter.
I dont know you personally but you dont seams as a person who wont be able to have those fellings.
of corse I cant say for sure.

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sneakersjay

If your parents are supportive, why won't they help you cover the cost?  $113 isn't that much, esp if you were paying $60 before.


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GentlemanRDP

Quote from: Adio on July 23, 2012, 08:47:31 PM
Hang in there man.  Things will get better.  Focus on your goals--saving money, getting out.  Make mini goals and lists for yourself, even if it's just small stuff.  Feel good about the things you can accomplish now.

Utah seems to be a sucky state for trans people.  I live in the south so I understand religious, political, and cultural prejudice against anyone who is different from the 'norm'.  What I'm curious about is why you haven't tried a mail order pharmacy like Strohecker's or the Apothecary Shop?  $60 with either of those or similar would likely get you around 5 months worth.  Just something to think about.

Right now with your hormones being out of sorts, I wouldn't worry about your sexuality as much.  Things will right themselves in time.  Some people are asexual but not aromantic.  Give yourself some time to figure out the rest of your life, get back on T if that's what you want, and then your sexuality will likely fall into place.

Thanks for that.

I've actually never heard of those, but I'll have to take a look. Thanks for mentioning them! I appreciate it!
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GentlemanRDP

Quote from: aleon515 on July 23, 2012, 11:33:55 PM
How old are you that you are off your stepfather's insurance? Or was it your stepfather's choice? According to ObamaCare your dad can carry you on his insurance to age 26.
You might check out if there is low cost or sliding scale clinics.

I wouldn't worry about your sexual orientation. Just about any combination is ok. I am asexual. But I have a (low) drive (haven't taken T). You might check out www.asexuality.org
As adio mentions there are people who are romantic (like hugging and so on) but not sex.
Compared to transgender, sexuality is nothing.


I also agree with goals like saving money, leaving home, that sort of thing.

--Jay Jay

Well, I'm 22, but I was taken off of it because my mother and stepfather got a divorce a few months back, I forgot to mention that. My father is on my stepmother's insurance, and I can't be on that, because her company requires that children be living in the same house as their parents - and since I don't live with them, the company won't let me claim their insurance. I don't really get it, but we've tried before, and they wouldn't let us. I've been looking for low-cost clinics, but that leads me into the problem that none of the doctors at these low-cost clinics even know what HRT is when I mention it, or they just flat out refuse to do it - so that kind of kicks them off the list.

Thanks for the link! I just looked at it, and I've got to say, it's pretty interesting, I always just assumed that being Asexual meant that you never had any sort of romantic or sexual feelings...period, but I'll definitely look into it a little more.
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aleon515

>Well, I'm 22, but I was taken off of it because my mother and stepfather got a divorce a few months back, I forgot to mention that. My father is on my stepmother's insurance, and I can't be on that, because her company requires that children be living in the same house as their parents - and since I don't live with them, the company won't let me claim their insurance. I don't really get it, but we've tried before, and they wouldn't let us. I've been looking for low-cost clinics, but that leads me into the problem that none of the doctors at these low-cost clinics even know what HRT is when I mention it, or they just flat out refuse to do it - so that kind of kicks them off the list.

This might be illegal under ObamaCare (Actually called the Affordable Care Act). I don't think that you have to be living under the same roof. The idea is to allow younger people a period of grace where they can take lower paid jobs and so on. You might call your congressman (of some congressman who is a Democrat that is nearish). My understanding is that you do NOT have be under the same roof. But I am sure there are all sorts of people who are trying to tempt this.

Glad you liked the info on asexuality. I didn't know a lot of things, like it is an orientation. Nothing to be ashamed of in the slightest. If it is true for you, you didn't chose this anymore than a gay person chose being gay.


--Jay Jay
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GentlemanRDP

#11
Quote from: Hayzer12 on July 24, 2012, 01:28:03 AM
Do you take injections? If you do, then why are you paying that much ....

Even CVS has a 10 ml vial for 80 bucks... and mom and pop pharmacies are a LOT cheaper.

If you don't take injections, you may seriously want to switch to them...

Hmm, Well, Honestly, I didn't really look into other pharmacies,
I should have.

Thanks anyway for the comments though.
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supremecatoverlord

Quote from: sneakersjay on July 24, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
If your parents are supportive, why won't they help you cover the cost?  $113 isn't that much, esp if you were paying $60 before.
I'm guessing because, in reality, they're actually not as supportive as they say they are, or they're not aware that "transitioning" is a life or death situation for some.
Honestly, I would rather drop dead than somehow be forced into any form of detransition - that's just me though.

Regardless, I hope things start getting better for the OP.
Meow.



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insideontheoutside

I would look around at different pharmacy's prices like others have mentioned. If you feel terrible not on it, you're just going to have find ways to make it so that you're always on it - for the rest of your life. Even if you do end up getting a hysto, you'd still need HRT because you would only have your adrenals then making any kind of hormones in your body and would be susceptible to other health issues without the HRT

And I was under the impression that the "Obama care" wouldn't fully take effect until 2014? I know it's not in effect right now - they simply pushed it through to become legal or whatever.

Some states also have a "discount card" specifically for prescription drugs. You might check if something like that is available in your state. You'd still of course have to pay out of pocket for office visits, check ups, lab work, etc. though so I would also look into getting health insurance through your employer. Usually if you're full time (it used to be full time was 32 hours - 40 hours a week) then you should be offered it at a lower cost. Even if you aren't full time you still may be able to get health insurance. If you're 22, then you might as well sort this stuff out on your own anyway.
"Let's conspire to ignite all the souls that would die just to feel alive."
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Adio

Quote from: insideontheoutside on July 25, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
And I was under the impression that the "Obama care" wouldn't fully take effect until 2014? I know it's not in effect right now - they simply pushed it through to become legal or whatever.

The Affordable Care Act has been in effect since 2010.  At least parts of it.  http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/
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aleon515

Quote from: Adio on July 25, 2012, 07:48:41 PM
The Affordable Care Act has been in effect since 2010.  At least parts of it.  http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/

That's right. One of the things that has changed is that insurance companies are required to let your parents carry you on their plans til 26 (or so). The parts that would not be in effect yet would be to help you get your own policy for a discount. I think that the insurance company here might be lying, which they are quite good at.

--Jay Jay
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Ayden

I don't have any advice per se, but I hope things get better for you man. If you feel as bad as you seem to, I would look around at more affordable places to get T, like Adio suggested. As for being Utah, I have friends from there, and my family is mostly from the south (Mason-Dixon line and down) so I know at least some of the mindset that can go along with more conservative areas. As for your sexuality - its pretty normal to be confused. Aside from my partner, I am not sexually attracted to anyone, even in a hypothetical. If he and I were seperated, I would be asexual but probably in the market for companionship. Just hang in there until you get back on T (if you want, that is) and let your emotions settle a little. Being in the right mindset can make all the difference. Stay tough, and hang in there.

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GentlemanRDP

#17
Then apparently, my dose is ridiculously high,
Also, my beginning T was very low (43) so...yeah...
After I couldn't afford my doctor, I dropped my dose to half to make my T last longer...
T doses vary for all of us...
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GentlemanRDP

Quote from: sneakersjay on July 24, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
If your parents are supportive, why won't they help you cover the cost?  $113 isn't that much, esp if you were paying $60 before.

My parents are supportive, but they're also poor like me and can't afford to help,
Plus, I don't expect them to because I'm out of the house and on my own ^^;
Also $113 is a lot for me, considering that I make $300 every two weeks...
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supremecatoverlord

Quote from: GentlemanRDP on July 27, 2012, 06:26:47 PM
Then apparently, my dose is ridiculously high,
Also, my beginning T was very low (43) so...yeah...
After I couldn't afford my doctor, I dropped my dose to half to make my T last longer...
T doses vary for all of us...
The method you're using is risky.
See a doctor and constantly have your levels tested, because what you're doing actually might be counterproductive to the speed of your transition as long as you are on testosterone.
I know you're not right now, but you might not need as much testosterone in your body unless you had recent levels that indicated that the dose you were on was correct.
My testosterone was the same as yours pre-HRT.
Meow.



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