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Started by Beth Andrea, July 28, 2012, 02:50:01 AM

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Dahlia

Quote from: MariaMx on July 28, 2012, 08:32:44 AM
"Why have you lied to me about who you really were all these years? Admit you are a deceptive liar!"

Which, in fact is true...isn't it? Except for 'you are'....'you were'...
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MariaMx

Quote from: Dahlia on July 28, 2012, 09:01:32 AM
Which, in fact is true...isn't it? Except for 'you are'....'you were'...
Yes, you are right, that should be 'are'. While technically true it is a highly inappropriate thing to say and shows a massive lack of understanding of the situation. For me being trans was something I explained away to myself as intrusive thoughts or something. A bug in the system if you will. I was extremely ashamed of these feelings and treated them as they weren't relevant to my real life. In essence I thought of my GD as not being real, and therefore the person I presented as was the real me.
"Of course!"
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Dahlia on July 28, 2012, 07:27:16 AM
That's not a strange or rude question....not at all.
It's an acknowledgement that she exists too and has her own personality, choice over matters, her own opinion, her own sexuality, her own emotions her own sexual ID  etc. too...like she should have.

Except the intention (based on context) is to reinforce the idea "you shouldn't do this, because you're hurting her."

I've had other people ask it, and given the other (supportive) things they say, makes it a sincere question.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Edge

Quote from: MariaMx on July 28, 2012, 08:32:44 AM
"Why have you lied to me about who you really were all these years? Admit you are a deceptive liar!"
A better way of wording that would be "Why didn't you tell me?" or "Why didn't you feel you could tell me?" in a supportive, but questioning tone. Then the reasons can be discussed in a polite an honest way rather than both people getting defensive and causing more hurt than it's worth.
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Ms. OBrien CVT

After a classmate found out, she asked me "Did it hurt?"    I assumed she meant developing boobs.  But she really was asking about SRS.  Well DUH! it is major surgery.

And as always.  "God doesn't make mistakes."  Best reply is "No, she doesn't.  She made me this way for her glory."

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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Violet Bloom

Just tell them God spoke to you and told you this was part of The Plan all along.  See if they can respond to THAT!  (Hell, if God could tell George W. Bush to go to war in the Middle East then God can certainly tell you to 'go to war' on your body :laugh:)

Everyone knows I'm so 'god-less' I couldn't pull off this statement personally though.  Your experiences may vary.

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suzifrommd

* There's no such thing as gender. It's all a product of how you were raised.

* You're just a guy getting in touch with his female side.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Edge

Quote from: agfrommd on July 28, 2012, 10:28:10 AM
* There's no such thing as gender. It's all a product of how you were raised.

* You're just a guy getting in touch with his female side.
Oh! I get that too except about male.
"Gender is a social construct." That I put on the same level as scientology and creationism, yet I still feel the way I do.

Me: I'm genderfluid.
Them: You like girls? (or some other comment about sexuality)
Me: *head desk* Well, yes, but that's not the same thing.
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Padma

See, this is why I avoid the word "transsexual" ;D. It annoys me a lot that people understand me better if I tell them I'm a hippy dyke than if I say I'm a trans woman who likes women.
Womandrogyneâ„¢
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Jen-Jen

"Your an Abomination, your going straight to hell!" Uh no, you are!

"God doesn't make mistakes." I never said he did! He loves me as the real me, I was made in his image!

"You should just be happy with yourself." I am!

" why would you want to be a THING?"  I am not a thing I am a person, a young woman!

"You will always just be a really pretty boy, thats it! you will never be a real girl"

Don't judge a book by its cover! My lifes been like a country song! True love, amazing grace, severe heartbreak, buckles, boots n spurs! I 've been thrown off the bull a couple times, I keep getting up and dusting myself off! Can't give up on my happily ever after!
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Dahlia

Quote from: Beth Andrea on July 28, 2012, 10:04:44 AM
Except the intention (based on context) is to reinforce the idea "you shouldn't do this, because you're hurting her."

I've had other people ask it, and given the other (supportive) things they say, makes it a sincere question.

Well, a wife or GF who gets, sometimes after years or even  decades,  involuntarily involved  with a hubby/BF who turns out to be a MTF needs a lot of support (too)

Otherwise the whole MTF thing will revolve around the MTF......while the wife/GF, her feelings, emotions, etc gets totally snowed under.
That's almost like totally denying her existence, her personality, character, choices, feeling, emotions, her sexual identity....
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Edge

Yeah, but no one should be expected to be someone other than who they are for another person.

"Why can't you just be happy with what you have?"
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Padma

"You're insulting the Women's Struggle... blah blah male privilege blah drone..." ::)

Any variation on "Have you thought about this?" - seriously?
Womandrogyneâ„¢
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Dahlia on July 28, 2012, 11:09:35 AM
Well, a wife or GF who gets, sometimes after years or even  decades,  involuntarily involved  with a hubby/BF who turns out to be a MTF needs a lot of support (too)

Otherwise the whole MTF thing will revolve around the MTF......while the wife/GF, her feelings, emotions, etc gets totally snowed under.
That's almost like totally denying her existence, her personality, character, choices, feeling, emotions, her sexual identity....

Absolutely! And I do support and encourage her, whatever her choice is/will be.

This means we're getting a divorce. I'm open to reconciliation, but me being "Beth" is not negotiable, and her wanting a "man" as a husband is not negotiable. So, we're at an impasse, with me encouraging her without smothering her (I hope so...she doesn't give me any feedback on things).

"The opposite of love is not hate...It is indifference."

But, for other people to think that because I'm trans that somehow I'm "of course" neglecting my duties as a husband and father...that's a forehead slap.

...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Ayden

"But if you're married to a guy, you should just stay a girl."

"Why bother transitioning if you aren't a lesbian?" (I facepalmed through my own head on this one)

"You're just a Butch lesbian in denial."

"You can't be a guy because you have XX chromosomes." or "Nature doesn't make mistakes."

"You only think that because you have mother issues and were always really close with the men in the family."


But I've had a few acceptance comments that were pretty awesome. My favorite was my grandmother. "Hm. Yeah. You made a terrible girl. Like a bull in a china shop. How's the weather?"

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Edge

Quote from: Ayden on July 29, 2012, 09:00:31 PM
"Nature doesn't make mistakes."
Actually, it's a scientific (and obvious) fact that no biological processes are perfect.
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EmmaMcAllister

"Did porn make you feel this way?" My Dad during our first awkward conversation.
Started HRT in October, 2014. Orchiectomy in August, 2015. Full-time in July, 2016!

If you need an understanding ear, feel free to PM me.
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Jen-Jen

Quote from: EmmaMcAllister on July 29, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
"Did porn make you feel this way?" My Dad during our first awkward conversation.
lol.. love it! I would have responded "yes dad, in fact  I am quiting school and becoming a pornstar!"
great avatar by the way! super cute!
Don't judge a book by its cover! My lifes been like a country song! True love, amazing grace, severe heartbreak, buckles, boots n spurs! I 've been thrown off the bull a couple times, I keep getting up and dusting myself off! Can't give up on my happily ever after!
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EmmaMcAllister

Quote from: Jen-Jen on July 29, 2012, 09:40:02 PM
lol.. love it! I would have responded "yes dad, in fact  I am quiting school and becoming a pornstar!"
great avatar by the way! super cute!

Hehe. And, thanks!
Started HRT in October, 2014. Orchiectomy in August, 2015. Full-time in July, 2016!

If you need an understanding ear, feel free to PM me.
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Arch

Pre-transition, I had an absurdly low "female" T level, below the bottom of the range. When my ex found out, he said, "Maybe if you take a really low dose of T, you'll get up to normal female levels and not want to transition."

I know, I know--he was grasping at straws. But it showed me he just didn't get it, despite knowing me as male-identified for some eighteen years before that date.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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