TS Friendly Aviation Companies or Defense Contractors?

[rhonda13000]

I am of course researching this on my own initiative, but if anybody is cognizant of or possesses knowledge of such, the impartation of the information would be very much appreciated.

Thanx. 

[seldom]

I HIGHLY suggest you look at HRCs Corporate equality index. 

http://www.hrc.org/Template.cfm?Section=Get_Informed2&CONTENTID=31668&TEMPLATE=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm

Companies that score 100% are generally considered TG friendly and have non-discrimination/harrassment policies with regards to gender identity written into thier corporate policy.  How friendly they actually are is difficult to judge. 

Boeing is on the list.  As are several other aviation and defense contractors.

Boeing has to be largely because thier corporate headquarters are in Chicago and they have significant business in Washington.  Both states with gender identity protections written into the law.
I HIGHLY suggest you look into moving to the nine states (and DC) with gender identity protections.  Companies located in these states are more likely to have progressive policies in place.   

[rhonda13000]

Excellent.

Thank you.   

[BeverlyAnn]

Despite the fact they do not include gender identity in their non-discrimination policy thereby only scoring 85 on HRC's Equality Index, Delta is actually a pretty gender friendly company and I've known of one TS pilot and a couple of TS Flight Attendants.  There was also one person I'm aware of in the Technology section that transitioned on the job.  This does not mean, however, that all areas are GLBT friendly.  The ramp area tends to be a fairly conservative group.  American Airlines and US Air score 100.

Beverly

[rhonda13000]

Despite the fact they do not include gender identity in their non-discrimination policy thereby only scoring 85 on HRC's Equality Index, Delta is actually a pretty gender friendly company and I've known of one TS pilot and a couple of TS Flight Attendants.  There was also one person I'm aware of in the Technology section that transitioned on the job.  This does not mean, however, that all areas are GLBT friendly.  The ramp area tends to be a fairly conservative group. American Airlines and US Air score 100.

Beverly

Indeed.

I was an "R&E" Tech for Northwest Airlines [A&P possessing an FCC license] for a portion of my aviation career.

I have the A&P tickets, but prefer to work as a 'systems specialist' as it involves more troubleshooting and head work.

I'm averse to returning to the commercial airlines and have preferred to work on military aircraft, hence my interest in Defense Contractors, but I am more averse to being unemployed.  I am therefore not summarily ruling out working again for the same.

I need to change jobs for both transitional reasons and in the interest of preservation of what is left of my sanity. 

[BeverlyAnn]

I need to change jobs.....in the interest of preservation of what is left of my sanity. 

Considering that my last job with Delta had something like 36 different job functions ranging from dealing with International Rates and Reissues to Capitol Desk (dealing with Congressional staffers and Congresspersons reservations) to Delta Cares (shipment of human remains) to listening to irates scream, in the interest of what was left of my sanity, I retired. 

Beverly

[Danielle_oc_ca]

Hi:

I know a TS at Boeing Long Beach and another one at United Launch Alliance, soon moving to Denver. Also another one who is a ramp worker for Southwest Airlines.

I also know a TS who was fired after coming out at an electronics company called "Crestron".

Danielle

[cindianna_jones]

Most of the big companies here in CA are pretty much obligated to be TS friendly.  However, with that said, if it comes up in your interview, you'll not likely get a job ANYWHERE.  It's just a lot easier to hire someone else without any hassles.

I have a friend who transitioned while working at TRW in the late eighties. They seemed to treat her very well for quite some time.

Cindi

[rhonda13000]

Most of the big companies here in CA are pretty much obligated to be TS friendly.  However, with that said, if it comes up in your interview, you'll not likely get a job ANYWHERE.  It's just a lot easier to hire someone else without any hassles.

I have a friend who transitioned while working at TRW in the late eighties. They seemed to treat her very well for quite some time.

Cindi

Ouch.   

Yours has me thinking that I will have to become a 'mistress of concealment' [without perjuring myself; but if they suspect something and ask, I can't lie about it], regarding job interviews and with prospective employers - at least during a probationary period.

This is all new territory for me [as it has been, for many others].

[cindianna_jones]

Yea... the killer is the place on the employment form that asks you to list previous names you have used.

I've always left that one blank.  I've had my references spill the beans a few times.  That was a major setback.

They may check your credit history as well. Some companies do that now. But they will need your permission.  I even worked for a company where they had me interview with their shrink before I could get hired on.

The thing is... don't worry about any of these things. Just be aware that they might come up. Be prepared to deal with them.

Cindi

[rhonda13000]

Yea... the killer is the place on the employment form that asks you to list previous names you have used.

I've always left that one blank.  I've had my references spill the beans a few times.  That was a major setback.

They may check your credit history as well. Some companies do that now. But they will need your permission.  I even worked for a company where they had me interview with their shrink before I could get hired on.

The thing is... don't worry about any of these things. Just be aware that they might come up. Be prepared to deal with them.

Cindi

Incoming PM, special lady. 

[rhonda13000]

Oh my heavens! Is it still, realy that hard to find professional work, even in California? Cindi, It sounds as if you are saying, it is possible to keep a good job with those companies that have high ratings for anti discrimination policies, but it is impossible to be hired by one of them, if you are a transgender person. This is realy frieghtening. So I guess what you are saying is, do not expect to find work as a transsexual person, with a fortune 500 corporation in America, if you do not completely pass as a female.
How! I think I better just stay overseas!

Icarus Wings

Overseas? It is interesting that you should mention that. I am now considering it.

I was told and have heard that a woman who possesses my qualifications and experience could make a good deal of money, overseas.

It is now 'on the table' as a future career option.

[Lori]

However, with that said, if it comes up in your interview, you'll not likely get a job ANYWHERE.  It's just a lot easier to hire someone else without any hassles.

That's disconcerting 

[rhonda13000]

However, with that said, if it comes up in your interview, you'll not likely get a job ANYWHERE.  It's just a lot easier to hire someone else without any hassles.

That's disconcerting 

We'll see.

I'm blessed in that,

--God hasn't let me down yet - neither will He ever.

--I am in a career field which experienced and appropriately certificated technicians are held in high esteem and prized.

--I am supremely confident. I'm very good.

--I am in top physical condition and quite healthy.

But of all of these, it is God in Whom I place my greatest confidence.

If you are truly interested in working overseas, and if you have any college degree, I can help you find a dream job that can pay as much as a middle class income for someone living in San Francisco. If interested, please write me at Seekhopeusa@netscape.com. Talk to you soon.

Icarus Wings

I wanted to acquire J.A.R. certification; would you happen to know how, here in the 'States, that I might acquire it?

[Andrew]

You might want to contact Dr. Sarah Becker. She's a member of the Civil Aviation Medical Association, and I believe she consults with aviation companies about TS people. (In addition to being my physician and a very cool lady.) http://www.sarabecker.com/

[rhonda13000]

Rhonda, you are truly beautiful. Your faith is inspiring. For the sack of all of us, continueing looking to God!

Icarus Wings

No, not really. 

'Demons' remain in the mind....

But HE is beautiful and He has saved my life in innumerable instances.

But thank you. 

[Ericka]

I work for General Dynamics – Information Systems (GD), we are the primary contracting company for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA); both GD & DIA enforces a non-discrimination/harassment policies.  Now working in the Intelligence community does require a security clearance, well working in almost any government capacity requires a security clearance & that means divulging all personal information (that does not include sexual or gender identity) but you must be hired by a company first and they don't dig that deep into your background.
Now, I had an interview once with a company that was the prime with NSA (National Security Agency), they have the same non-discrimination/harassment policies as GD & DIA but in the interview I informed the HR interviewer that I was TG (now the resume that provided to them during the application process had a female name) & the interviewer informed me of their discrimination policies & that the fact that I was TG would not play in the hiring of anyone, this was a phone interview.  I didn't get the position, now it could be that there were more qualified applicants but I don't know.  Plus I already had a position with GD I just wanted to see how other companies reacted to TG people & I guess I see.  But if you have already transitioned and your name has been change legally then I don't see the problem, I know folks that have transitioned and has changed companies & have went to work as a Government Employee with no problems at all.  So it may just be the company in which you apply to.  My advice would be just don't give up.

[rhonda13000]

I possess a DoD secret clearance, my documentation will shortly be aligned with my new name, but still there will be a major problem: I would never 'pass'.

[Ericka]

What is your work experience, any IT certifications?  There is a lot of Teaming Partners on GD's contract with DIA and also it you have a active Secret GD is willing to pay for your Top Secret SCI investigation, the TS/SCI just opens more doors and is also more money for you.