UPDATE/Focus On The Family Promotes Dangerous ‘Ex-Trans’ Ministries

[Shana A]

Focus On The Family Promotes Dangerous 'Ex-Trans' Ministries

By Zack Ford on Oct 25, 2012 at 1:05 pm

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Focus on the Family's promotion of ex-gay therapy is nothing new, but this week the anti-LGBT group also started promoting "resources for ->-bleeped-<- and gender identity disorder." In addition to citing familiar ex-gay ministries, the links also include efforts to convince transgender people that their gender identities are wrong — the result of "confusion" — and that they should try to conform to their biological sex. For example, the UK ministry Parakaleo aims to help "those seeking to re-establish their God given gender identity and destiny." Another link highlights an author who claims to "expose and debunk the promises of gender change surgery."

[Brooke777]

Parakaleo aims to help "those seeking to re-establish their God given gender identity and destiny."

I like this part. My God given gender identity is that of a woman. And, my destiny in regards to this is to be the best Christian woman I can be.

It is so great they are going to help me with this. I wonder if that means they will donate money towards my transition? (written with extreme sarcasm!)

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

It is Focus On the Family.  One of the most anti-GLBT organizations there is.  They want internment camps.

[Brooke777]

It is Focus On the Family.  One of the most anti-GLBT organizations there is.  They want internment camps.

I am not totally apposed to placing them in internment camps.

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

I am not totally apposed to placing them in internment camps.

For us, silly Millie. 

However now that you mention it.  hmmmmm.

[Brooke777]

For us, silly Millie. 

However now that you mention it.  hmmmmm.

Yeah, I knew what you meant. I just really really really dislike those "people".

[Laura91]

For us, silly Millie. 

However now that you mention it.  hmmmmm.

Pffft. Bring it. Any scumbag that thinks they are going to put me in an internment camp better think again. They will need their delusional friends to clean up what is left of them after they get taken out. I know some people have this goofy idea that self defense is the same as random violence but there comes a time when you must defend yourself against freaks that believe they are right because "God is on their side".

[Brooke777]

Pffft. Bring it. Any scumbag that thinks they are going to put me in an internment camp better think again. They will need their delusional friends to clean up what is left of them after they get taken out. I know some people have this goofy idea that self defense is the same as random violence but there comes a time when you must defend yourself against freaks that believe they are right because "God is on their side".

I will be fighting right by you on this one. They will certainly have a heck of a time taking me.

[MadelineB]

I will be fighting right by you on this one. They will certainly have a heck of a time taking me.

You know what another name for precision artillery is? Brooke with a bocce ball. I'll join your army any day.

[tekla]

History shows there is remarkably little resistance to rounding up groups of people.  Most people have someone they need to protect and will behave accordingly.

[Brooke777]

History shows there is remarkably little resistance to rounding up groups of people.  Most people have someone they need to protect and will behave accordingly.

I do have to say, I would feel sorry for whom ever tries to round me and my family up. They will be in for a very short fight. Then the next person that comes will probably have a shorter fight.

[tekla]

Like I said, history tells us it's pretty easy.  Once I have a gun to your families head - or even once I have them on the transport - you'll comply.

And they are going to start - most likely - by lying about the reason.

[gennee]

I'm not surprised. They have to 'protect' the children from us because they say that we are sick. Well, people have been overprotected to the point that they don't know what to do when a crisis comes up.

[Laura91]

History shows there is remarkably little resistance to rounding up groups of people.  Most people have someone they need to protect and will behave accordingly.

That's a good point. But I only have myself to worry about so if I did die in the process of resisting and/or fighting that is the way it goes. The only thing I am willing to die for is my own freedom.

[Snowpaw]

It is Focus On the Family.  One of the most anti-GLBT organizations there is.  They want internment camps.

Funny, I want the same thing for some of them *sarc* but still it is very very scary with that kind of thinking. As for the OP itself it's just really sad what people will go through and what lengths they will do it just to fight off difference.

[noeleena]

Hi,

Hows this then what have or do they say about us who are intersexed, any comments on that or do they  lump us all in the same camp.

I sent an email to them 3 years ago & would i expect a reply i doughted then & id dought it now even if i send them another one. they have a mindset that does not include any thing that is different  bare none so  what about some fish or worms being intersexed, well no how can they accept those based on thier own teaching, & they wont talk to us so why bother with them.

...noeleena...

[SarahM777]

Hi,

Hows this then what have or do they say about us who are intersexed, any comments on that or do they  lump us all in the same camp.

I sent an email to them 3 years ago & would i expect a reply i doughted then & id dought it now even if i send them another one. they have a mindset that does not include any thing that is different  bare none so  what about some fish or worms being intersexed, well no how can they accept those based on thier own teaching, & they wont talk to us so why bother with them.

...noeleena...

This is just my opinion. I think at the heart of it is easier to keep things "black and white". As long as they think intersexed people do not "really exist",they do not have to redefine things. It would shake some core beliefs if they were to acknowledge that intersexed people do exist.

The question is why would it do so? How do you deal with it when everything is defined in "black and white" terms? How would they go about defining who is and is not intesexed? Would it include some transsexuals or would all be included? How would they define the boundary lines? How are those who are intersexed to live their lives under their plumb line? These and a whole host of other questions never have to be answered as long as everything is defined by black and white boundaries.

[ToriJo]

They do acknowledge intersexed people exist.

They believe they are the category of "eunuchs who were born that way" (Matthew 19:11).  And should live single lives, the "difficult path" they have been given by God.  Essentially they should be asexual and aromantic, and stay the gender that they are raised as and/or assigned as at birth.

They also believe that it is such a rare condition to be essentially irrelevant during debates.

As a Christian, I'll say: Hogwash all of it.  But that's what they believe.  You can find some of their writings online about it.

They are also the type that believes "God created them men and women" and that someone isn't in one or the other category is "less than" and a result of the curse.  More hogwash that ignores the nature of God.  But they use this argument against gays, saying that "without both parts, which God made different - both man and woman - a family is incomplete."  It's vital to their theology and hate that no man can be womanly or vise-versa.

[MaidofOrleans]

My mother created me (with dad's helps of course ) and no god is responsible or worthy of credit in my creation.

I am a product of nature, not divine will.

[SarahM777]

They do acknowledge intersexed people exist.

They believe they are the category of "eunuchs who were born that way" (Matthew 19:11).  And should live single lives, the "difficult path" they have been given by God.  Essentially they should be asexual and aromantic, and stay the gender that they are raised as and/or assigned as at birth.

They also believe that it is such a rare condition to be essentially irrelevant during debates.

Thanks,

I tried for a long time and I could not find it.

It seems to me that it comes across as an attitude of tough cookies. If you have to deal with it it you have to tough it out. Sorry but for you there is no hope for a better life. You get to suffer. Too bad how sad for you. You are not allowed to be happy and whole. It sucks being you.

Sorry for the rant.