High estrogen is ... crazy

[harmonic_dissonance]

I had that happen once Tristan. 
My reaction when it happened can be summed up as:

[Tristan]

I had that happen once Tristan. 
My reaction when it happened can be summed up as:

lol yeah. i was so like WTF. people were like oh your leaking hun, do you breast feed. why does that kind of stuff always happen to me? haha

[Rita]

Oh dear -pokes myself- they have never lactated yet  xD

[Alex8]

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My estrogen has been sky the hell through the roof high lately. My last test didn't show it but I can tell it's spiking / spiked. It's been high before and I'm getting all of the same symptoms.

My cat is acting like I'm her momma, I'm crying over the dumbest crap, my self confidence with whether I'm good at anything is bottomed out, my skin is ashy, my nails are going to crap, I'm starving 18 hours a day even though I do nothing but eat eat eat, I'm sleepy all the time (I'm up at 3 am because I slept about 10 hours today), I'm getting slight morning sickness and if I go 2 hours over without taking my dose I get headaches and hot flashes, I can go for 2 weeks without washing my hair and it's still dry (even though THANKFULLY it's still healthy!), mood swings are crazy dramatic (I'll go from happy la la land to verge of tears just from somebody asking me why I did something), my clothes smell like onions when I take them off (yes I wear deoderant), oddly, my sex drive is getting stronger (mmm men... WHY CAN'T I HAVE ONE?!! /cry ... I'm hungry) even though my T is WELL suppressed (18 ng / ml), my skin is paper thin... I'm sure I missed something.

Please, be patient. It happens but it is not forewer. For instance, My estrogen is 2082 and testosterone 0.8 during last 2 month.
I feel the same as you do and it is so nice feeling for me - i am the happiest person on the Earth!
After 2 month, I almost can stop eating when I decide to stop, I don't sleep at work and all things are OK now :-)))

[A]

Juuust quickly like that. Sounds like part of your trouble might be unstable levels throughout the day. It's more expensive, but I'd still tend to advise that you try a transdermal gel. I had a very small part of your symptoms (very small dose, so) when I was on Estrace, and even though it looks like my dose might have been actually reduced in the process (gotta love very available endos - still waiting for an appointment), when I was switched over to Estrogel, they disappeared, poof. They were actually caused by the "down" of E at the end of the day.

I would suggest talking to your doctor about replacing part of your pills with Estrogel. Maybe even just one shot per day (which is probably roughly 35 $ per two months, not so terrible). It'd add one steady, stable element to your hormone regimen to smooth the up-and-down curves. It might be all you need.

[JessicaH]

Don't assume it is high E. It sounds more like your T is bottoming out which can affect your thyroid (TSH,FSH,thyroxin).  I have talked to several MtE (Male to Eunuch) and low T causes many symptoms we atribute to High E. Dry hair, low energy, brittle nails are all signs of low T and or thyroid being off.  May want to get blood test to check everything out.

Also, if you keep your E too high for too long, your prolactin levels will rise  high enough to drive your T down as well. To many of us think of T as the enemy but women NEED T in their system!!  Too much T is the problem. Ideally, most women should have 50-70 pg/ml (unit may be off).

[Alainaluvsu]

My T has been bottomed out for months. Yes I know dry skin / hair is due to that. The post was suppose to be more humorous than anything

My T hasn't measured above 25 the entire time I've been on HRT lol!

[Dale]

Alaina,

When I was in my "pregnancy stage" my E count varied from 1400-2000 at times. I did not experience any of what you going through, but I was on androcur not spiro. When I dropped it the milk can in. I'm sorry your going through all this difficult period now. Here is a BIG HUG for you.

[Siobhan]

I have a lot of the same things Alaina, thought it was just me that smelt slightly of onions 

[MadelineB]

Talk to your endo, but is very common for high E to convert to T, or sometimes our bodies produce extra T in an effort to balance things. Either way, its usually very manageable.

[Eva Marie]

THAT onion smell - yep.
The crying at the drop of a hat - yep.
The kitty love - yep.

All of what you posted is something that i went through a couple of months ago. The onion smell was quite a strange thing.

[Alainaluvsu]

Technically it doesn't convert. The body notices that there is too much E in the body and produces T to try to counter it. That's why you can have high E and T at the same time.

[Cookies]

hi can i ask...what measurement units are both the T and E levels in as you all were discussing? hope i am not breaking rules here 

[Joann]

What gets me is that you mentioned your kitty getting clingy with attention, mine is too!  Maybe they can smell the pheromones?  I don't know, but she is stuck to me sitting on top of my desk or lap since I started the new dosing and wails at the door when I leave.

They can smell pheromones.
If I'm in a bad mood even just a little bit, they don't hang around.

[aprilrain]

Aww she's prego! 

Have fun!

[A]

hi can i ask...what measurement units are both the T and E levels in as you all were discussing? hope i am not breaking rules here 

They're both in the US, so they're probably using conventional units, the kind only used in the US. pg/mL, etc. instead of the international units like pmol/L.

[Cookies]

Thanks for the info A 

[Kupcake]

Hold on, hold on.  Let me give you my "professional" opinion, Alaina.  Just wait a second . . .  *looks in the closet*  Damn it, why do I have so many black coats?  How do you expect me to fake expertise without a white one?  Maybe I just need a professional-looking hat.  I do have this cute red beanie . . .  Eh, this'll do.  At least I'll be warm.  Ok, I'm ready.

*strokes chin thoughtfully* Hmmm . . .

*looks down at chart* Oh my.

*looks up at you again* Well . . .

*looks down at chart again* Fascinating . . .

*looks at the clock* Well, that's all the time we have for this month.  Before I go, there is one vitally important thing I have to ask you about.

Tell me more about . . .  your cat.