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Apology to LGB&T community(ies) and lessons to learn from.

Started by Cisfool, November 17, 2012, 11:57:43 AM

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Address to the communities as a whole

This has been prompted by a waking-up to myself, and a realization that I have been living as a person who is contemptible, and not who I am.

Before I continue with this, I need to mention that, due to an extenuating circumstance which I have edited out of this, even when I befriended gay men, I used trans/homophobic and offensive language throughout much of my life. There is no excuse for this, but I believe the reason for it was a reaction to the subsequent fear I felt from that experience. No excuse is a good excuse, however, and that is now behind me.

Well, where should I start?

I suppose with the basics- I am a cisgender male. Most of my life I have dated cisgender, straight females, with the exception of my most recent ex, who is a transgender male.

I'm not sure what that says about my sexual orientation, and really, it doesn't matter. I used to think it did, but in retrospect, it was a foolish way of looking at things, and I no longer care.

All of my life, I have been an abrasive, politically incorrect, offensive, and arrogant man. There are a number of reasons for this.

To begin with, I was raised with a man who had many of the same qualities I mentioned; for him, it was a result of his experiences and the fact that he could physically enforce his will when he wanted to.

My father suffered from many problems, PTSD in particular. His father was physically and mentally abusive during his childhood, and he later faced ground combat in Vietnam in Navy special forces.

I was home-schooled for the first half of the day until I reached high school, and there were no other children who lived on my road; my knowledge of how to socialize, indeed the templates I had to base myself on, were limited almost exclusively to my father. My grandparents were all but non-existent in my life. None of my aunts or uncles were around or took interest in the fact that my sister and I were alive, and the other adults who lived around us were disinterested in associating with children.

When I went to public school, it was during the second half of the school-day- I got there in time for lunch. Already socially impaired, the fact that I didn't have the same routine or live in the same place as anybody else further alienated me.

I had few friends, and those who I did have were... Moderately more accepting of me than the rest of the people I went to school with; what glued as together was an appreciation for each other's toys and games.

As you can imagine, this wasn't much. I faced a significant amount of bullying, which varied and included things such as being offered food which was then spit in, to being called demeaning names (my own first name was often used as a slur), to being hit with various objects depending on the circumstance (the most memorable instance being a branch of stinging nettles to my face when I was in boy scouts, but included various sports balls and other things). These are things everybody faces to a degree, but I didn't know how to handle my emotions regarding this.

I was raised under a high degree of stress.

As I mentioned, my father had PTSD in copious amounts. His behavior was erratic and often violent. A combination of his problems, medication he was taking, and alcohol made him a very hard man to live with.

Instances of explosive rage weren't uncommon; within a period of several hours, there could be any combination of yelling, breaking objects (which I was then to clean up), and physical violence. In one instance, when I was 7 or so, for instance, I had a question about a math problem he assigned to me. He came over to my desk and I pointed at the question in the book. He then grabbed the back of my head and shoved my face into the pages, proclaiming "The answer is right there!"

I was physically trained to not cry. As you might imagine, dealing with what I did at a young age, I tried to express my frustration, but my options were limited. Any expression of discontent on my face, and any verbal response in objection to the fairness of the punishment was considered either a threat or insolence, and I was punished accordingly. As a result, I felt powerless.

The only way I could vent frustration at my powerlessness was by crying.

I cried frequently- this started around age 5. As I got older, about 7 or 8, it became a source if disgust to my father. He would say things like "You think this is hard? Let me tell you something boy, life is hard," "Get over it crybaby," "Your sister isn't crying- she's more of a man than you are," "Man up," etc. When these failed to achieve his goal of making me stop, he would present an ultimatum: "Stop crying before I give you something to cry about." When I didn't stop crying, I would either be hit, spanked, or thrown out of the house- usually some combination thereof.

As a result, I viewed crying as a source of shame and humiliation, and subsequently stopped crying. It didn't matter what the circumstances were- relatives dying, friends being killed, pets dying, relationships ending, physical pain, a tear wouldn't fall from my face. There is only one exception to this, I cried for about 5 minutes in 2006 when my grandfather died.

As I got older, in high school and college,I viewed this to be a source of strength- I thought that I was master of my problems and could endure any pressure. I believed this because I had to face my issues alone- I had no form of reliable support or friend to turn to.

Ironically, I idolized my father and his opinion of me meant everything. I'm sure there's some psychological component to this, but I don't know enough on the matter to say what.

When I made it to high school, I went to public school full time in preparation for college. I was socially outcast and frequently bullied both verbally and physically- on one occasion, I was choked out by another guy because I happened to be the only other person standing in the hall.

These things happen, but given my history, my regard for other humans was low, and I didn't want any part of other people, with a few exceptions. As a result of my early childhood, I became cold to such things, and, I am ashamed to say, adopted some of these principles in my own friendships.

As I mentioned earlier, the bonds between my friends and I were weak. Our relationships can be summed up in a few simple interactions: insult each other, play video games together, insult other people.

There was one exception to this- I befriended a cisgender gay man my junior year of high school. The significance of his orientation will be explained below.

We were both self-loathing individuals with a dark sense of humor. His mother was a deaf and obese woman- she relied heavily on him for many things because of her conditions. She was also incredibly religious, and in denial about his sexual orientation. She was verbally and emotionally abusive.

His father had walked out on the family with his eldest son's girlfriend. My friend's brothers were physically abusive to him throughout his childhood, and he was not close to either of them.

He too lived under a great degree of stress, and faced many hardships regarding his orientation and his family.

I felt in many ways that I could relate to this man. Paradoxically, and as a result of the issues I mentioned previously, I did many things which would have indicated otherwise. When we would hang out, I would call him "homo," "queer," "fatass," etc. Foolishly, I thought I was using these as terms of endearment rather than slurs. I would make jokes about him being virtually fatherless, etc.

I was a douche bag, and the things I did that hurt him are unforgivable.

While I was very vocal about him needing to tell me when things I said bothered him, he didn't raise an issue about my vocabulary, and in fact he participated with me in what I said, feigned to cry at things I said about his father, joked about my situation with my own father and called me names in return ("breeder" was a notable one), etc. This was not a healthy relationship, and what I did hurt him.

A few years later, everything in our friendship that I had said which hurt him culminated finally, and he told me I made him feel bad. That was the end of our friendship.

That was the longest relationship with a single person outside of my immediate family I've ever had- 3 years.

Throughout my life, and most prominently in high school and college, I have been politically incorrect and offensive. I have made racist jokes, I have said homophobic and transphobic things, and I have generally been a mean person.

I did these things not because I believed in what I said- I did this because it is all I knew, and because I believed that anybody who could associate with me under these circumstances and look past my faults was worth-while. Furthermore, I wanted to isolate myself from a world which I viewed as disgusting, and pushing people away, I thought, minimized the chances of me being hurt. The irony here, of course, is that the nasty world I viewed was nasty because of the very behavior I exhibited.

While the people who did put up with me were indeed worth-while, it was very wrong of me to embrace and persist in being this person. Rather than embrace these flaws, I ought to sooner have abolished them completely. Lessons learned too late are lessons learned, but the damage to others which resulted from my behavior is irreparable.

I had a two cisgender girlfriends in college.

The first used the same vocabulary I did and embraced the same humor I used. At heart, she was a good person, however, I saw in her the things in myself which I secretly loathed.

The second girlfriend was a truly sweet girl- the things that I said perplexed and sometimes offended her, but she persisted in our relationship because she saw more to me than what I showed on the surface. Despite this fact, she got tired of my antics and we split up.


This brings me to my most recently ended relationship, and the purpose of this message.

My senior year in college, I met a transsexual man.

When I first saw him, I didn't know what to do with myself. I found him attractive, and didn't really know how to deal with the fact that I was attracted to and interested in another man. I had always considered myself straight, and never imagined yearning for another man.

The night we met, a person I was talking to had called him over to talk to us for me. She left, and it was just he and I. We talked, and we talked, and we kept on talking. For the next couple of weeks, we talked between 12 and 18 hours a day. I was completely enamored with him.

My college has a relatively high LGBT populations, and I suspected he might be a transgender male, given his androgynous features and lack of an Adam's apple (though this is apparently not a feature unique to the 'male' anatomy). When I asked him about it, he confirmed this, and I was relieved to a degree, as the prospect of being sexually intimate with the male body still frightens me deeply.

As our semester came to an end, and summer break came upon us, I asked him out, and we entered into a relationship.

For the first time in my life, I had found somebody who truly made me happy simply by existing. When I was with him, I felt safe- when I was with him, I felt I could truly be myself. He was the light of my days, and looking forward to talking to him got me through work each and every day. Until I met him, the source of my happiness revolved greatly around my physical possessions- my technological hardware, the movies and games I owned, etc. These things ceased and still fail to bring me happiness.

If you had seen us walking together in public, however, you would never have guessed this.

The many years of behaving as I had created some very hard habits to break.

To start with, I still made racist jokes or race-based comments. This offended him severely, and despite my gradual attempts to stop this, my success was slow coming.

Not fully understanding the hardships of a transsexual person's life, and arrogant as I was, I was also resistant to some new terminology, namely, "cisgender" and gender neutral pronouns; the latter of which was, at the time, applied to my boyfriend's genderqueer friend.

I never thought of myself as being ashamed to date my boyfriend, but I was afraid to display my affection for him publicly out of fear of what other people would do or think.

Above all of my other faults and failures, save for one which I will mention below, of this one I am most ashamed.

While I gradually worked into being comfortable with PDA's, doing small things like rub his back in public, or holding his hand in the movie theater, took a lot of time for me to become comfortable with.

The other failure of which I am significantly ashamed is that, during my summer job, I kept my relationship quiet. My boss was very outspoken in his disdain for the trans* community, and scoffed at the establishment of an LGBT support group which was started in my work place. I placed fear of losing my job above my Love, and said nothing to my boss when he said things that were offensive to my boyfriend's situation and which offended me.

With my boyfriend, just as with my gay friend, the pain I caused culminated, and he dumped me in August.

The progress I had made in becoming the better person I knew I could be was not fast enough.

For a period of two weeks, I thought I would move past my feelings for him, and tried to ignore them as best as I could.

As it turns out, I can't let go of him emotionally.

For the first time in my life, I found somebody I was willing to stop being a spiteful douche for, and I have pushed that person away.

It took me losing somebody who was dearest to me to realize how damaging I have been as a person.

We decided to just remain as friends after our relationship ended. These days, we are both in an odd position- I want him back, but my attempts to win him over are burdensome to him. The damage I did is done, and I can never take that back. I rarely see him even once a week, and every moment without him makes my heart ache terribly.

He came over to my house a few weeks ago, and when he hugged me, I cried. Since then, a night has not gone by where I haven't cried. I can't stop crying, because I know that no matter how hard I try, I have hurt and pushed away somebody who I care about more than anything else in the world, myself included.


In the time that I have been without him, I have done a great deal of reflection.

I do not want to be somebody who hurts other people, or somebody people don't want to be with or around- the world is harsh enough as it is, and I have no right to contribute to this. I want to be a positive force in the lives of people who endure great hardships. I cannot use my childhood experiences as an excuse for my actions which have hurt others, and I do not want to present as anybody other than who I really am. I have destroyed my facade.

To the people who I have hurt both directly and indirectly with my past actions, the LGB&T communities in particular, either by the words which have come out of my mouth, or by the insensitivity I have shown to serious issues, I am truly sorry. I have done wrong by you, I have done wrong by justice and human rights, and I have done wrong by myself and those I love.

I have since determined to no longer use offensive language related to any demographic, and to be kind where kindness ought to be practiced.

I have since determined that I cannot spend all of my time wallowing in despair of the man I lost, or simply loath myself for the man I was. I have renounced who I was, and sincerely apologize for what I have done.

I will have a different relationship with the LGB&T communities; I will be a supporting factor to the community as a whole, and a friend to the individuals comprising it who would accept me as such.

I was arrogant and I have been a fool, and I am sorry.

I apologize for the pain I have caused and the power I have taken away from the LGB&T communities (and others) and the individuals therein. I apologize for the damage of what others like me have done, and I am sorry for the pain that people who do not understand what you go through cause.



If you have made it this far and read what I had to say, thank you kindly for hearing me out. I cannot express the regret I have over what I have said and how I have behaved, or how much I hurt other people- particularly those I care about, but this is only the first step in my pledge to proceed as an "enlightened" individual.

It is now my primary objective to learn about the community, its people, and the issues they face everyday. If I can be there for, better understand, or help a single person who faces the issues I once ignored, I will have begun righting my wrongs.


The Relationship and what was learned

This more comprehensively covers the relationship and where I went wrong. I'm posting it here because I think some people can learn from my mistakes.

For the sake of brevity and to maintain anonymity in my writing, I will refer to my ex as Tiger.

When I first saw my ex-boyfriend, who is a trans* man, I did not know of his trans* status. As a cisgender male who, up until that point, was particularly concerned about being straight (not sure what you would call me now), I was greatly confused by my attraction to him. I had only seen him in passing a few times, but I found him particularly good looking. While his face had relatively androgynous features, it was clear that above all else, he was a man. I did not understand why I felt the way I did, but the more I thought about it, the less I thought his sex or orientation mattered. This was a radical change from the way I perceived others and myself.

One night, while conversing with a cis girl I knew, I saw him walking by. The words that came out of my mouth to her were "I find that guy strangely attractive, and I don't really know what to do with that..." She called Tiger over to talk, and talk we did. The girl left after a half hour or so, but my ex and I kept on talking. We walked and talked, and finally I walked him to his dorm on campus.

After I got home, I couldn't get him off my mind. He was incredibly interesting. He was studying psychology, as I later found out, to help trans* people, his views on religion and politics intrigued me, and he trained in jujutsu. I was smitten with him.

As the days went by and turned into weeks, we continued to talk and spend time together- the combination thereof usually lasting between 12 and 18 hours of the day.

Once I found out that he is trans*, the first thing out of my mouth was "Huh. When did you realize you're a >-bleeped-<?" All I can say to myself in reflection of this is "Hey stupid! When did you realize you're a twat?" Tiger was offended, but calmly explained to me the origin of the word and how it was offensive. A word which I had only moments ago had no reservation about using suddenly had more meaning to me than my own name.

Tiger was in the process of moving out of his dorm and into an apartment close by, and we spent some time there together. In his bedroom, on his floor, sitting against his wall, I revealed my feelings for him, and explained that I had never been interested in another man before. Before long, we started cuddling with each other, and I later had the great fortune of falling asleep in his lap for the first time.

I felt comfortable with him, and he felt comfortable with me. The vivid nightmares that I had frequently throughout my life ceased with him, and he made me feel safe. Unfortunately, the support and acceptance he offered was alien to me, and I later lost the single most influential person in my life.

When we decided to start dating, I preferred to spend time at his place rather than mine. I was living with a homophobic convicted felon whose frequent company had spent time in prison for drugs and murder. He had been hooked on meth for about 15 years until prison forced him into a program for it, and was mentally unstable. I was afraid of him or one of his friends trying to kill me or my boyfriend.

I was also living with an ex-Army Ranger who had gone to and been shot in Iraq. He was an alcoholic, suffered greatly from PTSD, and was on steroids. He also displayed homophobia. He was relatively unpredictable, and had snapped one night when we were walking home (he was drunk) because he had forgotten his key. I had mine, and when he told me to give him my key, I asked why he didn't have his. He took me down to the ground and my head hit some concrete- I got a concussion and lost a fair amount of blood from my head splitting open, and damaged my coccyx. I was only moderately less afraid of him than of the felon.

In retrospect, I should not have been afraid of these men- I had somebody who I cared more than anything else, and the risks would have been worth not hiding that side of my life away- and there would have been alternatives to living with them.

My entire life I have been afraid of my image. This was due in great part to worrying about how I looked to my father and not fitting in with people as a child. As such, I developed a series of 'masks' which I wore dependent on who I was with. While in many ways this is typical of social interaction, when it came to Tiger, I didn't always remember to take the other masks off- but I will address this later.

This preoccupation with my image manifested most prominently at this time in our relationship as me not wanting to hold hands or be affectionate in public. I was afraid of "looking gay," because I thought what other people thought of our relationship mattered. While I later explained the relationship accurately to both of my parents, and have since realized that the rest of the world doesn't matter if I have Tiger's happiness, I loath myself for my initial transgressions. As it stands, even in not being sure what to label my particular sexuality, I would proudly accept 'gay.'

As an aside, but also relevant, was that I had gotten off to a bad start with Tiger's roommate- a genderqueer individual who I will refer to as Blue. In the process of furnishing Tiger's apartment one day, Blue (who had done little carrying of the items) assigned us work with the intention of going to bed himself for medical reasons (which I didn't understand to be such at the time). I found this bothersome, and this is a foundation for something which will come up later.

As the school-year came to a close, Tiger went to his home-state to see his family before coming back to my state for his summer job. Likewise, my father and I traveled to Montana (in part to look at property, in part to try to bridge some gaps between us).

During this two-week period, I couldn't stop thinking about Tiger. In fact, every time my father and I made a stop, I tried to find something I could bring back to Tiger which reminded me of him. The nights that I spent in Montana I spent talking with Tiger over skype. I missed his face, I missed his voice, I missed his scent, I missed his thoughts and opinions; I missed him entirely.

It was during this trip that I decided to tell my father that I was seeing a man- it is with a great deal of shame that I admit I didn't represent the situation properly. Rather than leave it at the fact that I was seeing a man, or even mention that I was dating a Trans* man, I said that I was "dating a girl who feels he is a boy." While I was trying to explain it in terms my father would understand, I did not do justice to the situation or to the person I love. I am ashamed of this, and have no words for the amount of regret I feel over the syntax of my words and their impact.

I think the entire world of Tiger. I was an arrogant man, and I behaved accordingly. This was especially prevalent in the words I used, and in the words I didn't use. The main issues were "cisgender," which refers to somebody whose gender identity matches their physical sex, and gender-neutral pronouns. Because of my upbringing, I reacted poorly to adopting new terminology (or modifying my behavior) for the sake of others. While I knew semantics behind my syntax had one meaning, the syntax itself suggested otherwise. The things that I did say were hurtful and repugnant- regardless of how I meant them.

When I mention this, my mind wanders to a particular event after Tiger and I had both come back to the state we go to school in. Tiger was going up for his first level of brown belt in jujutsu, and I had gone with Blue to see him demo. On the way back to Tiger and Blue's apartment, I had started a discussion about something (I don't remember what). As we pulled up to the parking lot to the apartment, I had made a comment about "real men," referring to cis* men. The term "real men" was both improper and hurtful, and when Tiger and Blue both reacted with "Real men?" I doubled down defensively and stated "Yeah, real men."

With a single ignorant sentence, I had turned what should have been a joyous night for my love into one of anger and hurt. It didn't matter how I meant what I said, the fact of the matter is that what I said was damaging.

Tiger and I then had a heated discussion- I wouldn't back down and accept my error as it was. I had moved the conversation from the fact that I had screwed up to the disdain I had for Blue up to that point. What is worse is that I had no reason to dislike Blue, and certainly no reason to be defending the words I used on the way to their apartment.

I also said other hurtful things that summer- I made race-based jokes, talked about the foolishness of religion, made sexist jokes, etc. The worst part of this is, rather than recognize what Tiger tried to explain to me, that in saying these things, I was damaging the people I was talking about (we even had an argument because I felt entitled to say things about people if they weren't "immediately" affected), I used the fact that I was raised in a redneck town with racists, and that I was raised with a politically incorrect man as an excuse for my own behavior. If you can imagine this, I believe that, while simultaneously saying these things, I was a supporter and proponent of various minority rights. I have since come to realize that there is no excuse for such behavior- but it is a lesson I have learned too late.

In conjunction with this, I tried to make it a point to dissociate myself from the issues of people I didn't know. The way I saw things, if I could deal with my problems on my own, they could deal with theirs on their own. What was problematic with this is that I clearly didn't deal with my problems very well. The distance I put between myself and other people was a construct of my own making, a defense mechanism to convince myself that I didn't need or want 'people' in my life. This certainly wasn't a good perspective to have, and had a negative impact on Tiger and his opinion of me (for good reason). While I have determined to not be this way, again, the lesson was learned too late. It is important to care about other people and the impact you have on their lives.

During that summer, I was working in a place which had many conservative and particularly religious individuals working there. The face that I wore in this sphere was either one of indifference to generally offensive language, or one which participated in what was said.

My boss and his cohorts scoffed and mocked the idea of trans* people on many occasions. I endured statements like "It's nonsense" and "Until he has his dick removed, there's no >-bleeped-<in way he's going to use the same bathroom as my wife." I was weak, and I was afraid. I was afraid of being judged, and I was afraid of future prospects of getting a job there being hindered by me revealing I was dating a man (trans* especially). When there was something about my ex that I was proud of, like when he earned his first level brown belt, and I wanted to tell someone at work, I avoided using pronouns, either excising them completely, or referring to "my other half."

I fantasized of getting a full time job there after college, making it past my 1-year probationary period, and being able to say to my boss "You know, I'm dating a trans* man, I don't think HR or my union would look too kindly on the things you're saying. I certainly don't." Foolishly, I thought that I would be able to maintain a relationship with Tiger long enough under the circumstances I created to see this come to fruition.

Amongst my regrets at the stupid, hurtful things I did in the relationship, I also regret not standing up for what was right and for who I loved when I had the chance.

At one point in the relationship, I confronted Tiger with an issue I was having- that I was having trouble seeing him as the man that he is. This was a stupid thing to say, and a stupid way to feel. I was trying to reconcile with myself a past experience with the situation I now found myself in- and though I knew I would get over it, I confronted Tiger anyway. As you can imagine, this hurt him, and to this day I cannot forget the impact and folly of my action- especially in light of the fact that I now want that very quality in him as badly as any other aspect of him.

In many ways, I tried to buy Tiger's love. In the relationships that I had (friendships, romances, familial), the only way I knew how to relate with other people was by the respect of the items I had, and with the giving of gifts to make me someone worth keeping around.

I bought Tiger many things; I took him out to dinner and a movie every weekend, bought him dvds, etc. He once said to me that I ought to try to "earn [his] love, not buy it." It was a hard concept for me to understand, and I wish more than anything that, with all of the other wrongs I committed, I had rectified this sooner.

Generally, I was a negative person for Tiger to be around. In tandem with what I have mentioned above, and as a result of my social interactions up until I met Tiger, I was incredibly pessimistic and critical of many things (especially of myself, as you have seen throughout this message, though I have reached a point where I am using it constructively). If you have seen the SNL skit "Debbie Downer," you could easily apply that to me and not be far off- except that my real name isn't Debbie.

This problem with this is that, while that is how I verbally express myself, I was silently more happy than not. I found somebody who accepted me for who I was, who did little things that I appreciated infinitely (Tiger cooked me home-made pepperoni pizza one time because he knew it was my favorite, for example), and whose bravery and courage inspired me.

The template of behavior I had maintained rarely let these facts surface. I never told Tiger when we were together how the prospect of talking to him online after work got me through the day, or just the thought of him smiling made me smile. I only told him once how proud I was of his courage in face of the hardships of being a trans* man. I never told him how he made me happy above all possessions I owned (the first time anybody has meant that much to me), and I never properly expressed how his happiness gave me meaning. Though I have tried to tell him these things recently, I am too late.

While I was proud of him, and had a vague idea of what he went through in dealing with various aspects of oppression and the social impediments he had to face, I never took it upon myself to make his issues my own. The research I did into trans* issues was limited at the time to sex-reassignment surgery, and what post-gene therapy trans men looked like. I did not look into other personal and social aspects the trans* community faces in general, or the social and political limitations they face. While I am in the process of learning about these issues, I realize that I am a day late and a dollar short when it comes to Tiger.

In the middle of August, Tiger confronted me with the fact that my offensiveness and negativity had taken its toll. I was wearing him down, and he didn't find any joy in being around me. He dumped me, and though we decided to remain friends, I was hurt. For a short period, I tried to push away the feelings I had for him, just as I had with most other instances since my early childhood. After a significant amount of reflection, however, I realized just how much he meant to me. Every hurtful thing I had done to him stings me to know that I did that to him, and I can never take those things back.

I cried for the first time (in any significant fashion) in around a decade when Tiger came over to my house a few weeks ago- and I haven't gone 24 hours without shedding tears since. This man means enough to me that every wall I constructed to protect myself from emotional strife disintegrated with my loss of him as a romantic partner.

Every day that goes by that I have to live with the fact that I have lost someone who truly makes me happy is agonizing. Every memory I have where I hurt him or pushed him away is another heart string come undone. As I once wrote to Tiger after we split up, life presents an individual with few opportunities, and fewer worth-while people. Tiger is so far beyond just worth-while, the fact that I will probably never have the chance to be with him again to make him happy causes me despair I've never previously known.

He told me once that there is a minutia of a chance that if I can show him in both word and deed that I have become the better man I have vowed to become, that I might have another chance with him. I want to stress that he may have simply been saying this to spare my feelings, but as long as I have a slim chance, it is an aspiration I will stop at nothing to one day achieve.

I have promised him in word that I am sensitive to his issues and that of the trans* community, but the reality I face is that, as I am graduating in 4 weeks, I do not have the time to adequately show him in deed. In fact, I get the sense that my persistence for his affection once more is burdensome to him.

While I have since embraced who I am because of how I feel about him, Tiger does not feel the same way he once did, and I have no body to blame for this but myself. If I could, I would erase the entirety of our relationship and start anew, but that is not an option I have.

The purpose of me writing this is so that other people, cisgender people in particular, can learn from the mistakes I made.

This is not a position you want to be in- to have somebody who you care about more than anything else in the world to be hurt by you such that they are all but completely disinterested in you. You do not want to be in a position where you have somebody of such significance within an arms reach, yet completely out of your grasp. Nothing is so disheartening as knowing you have lost someone who makes you happy, and who you will likely never have another chance at being with; to right your wrongs and to make them happy in return.

Without Tiger, I hurt greatly. I see him in my dreams, and when I wake up to realize that that is the most I will see him that day, my heart sinks. The 'stuff' which made me happy- movies, games, technology, etc, provide no joy. I had a chance at happiness, but I squandered it.

What frightens me now is not what others think of me for how I feel, but the prospect that I will miss out on Tiger's life. I was crushed when I heard that he earned his second level brown belt and I didn't get to see it. I experience a great deal of anxiety at the prospect of not being any part of his life or seeing him succeed, let alone being an active supporting factor for him. The longing I had for him while I was in Montana has been multiplied several fold, yet I cannot change what I have done.

There is no way for me to show him that I don't care what loving another man makes me, that I am done wearing faces for people in the hopes that they will accept me, or that I've put the offensive person I was behind me (essentially, I'm done being spiteful toward the world), or that I am becoming learned on the nuances of trans* issues- I had my chance for that when we were together, and I have lost it all together.

Where I stand now, aside from the above, is in an awkward position. I want what I can't have, what I know deep in my heart of hearts I won't have again- Tiger. While I want another shot, nobody changes overnight, and their actions cannot be undone. As such, and because I can't get into his head, I can only guess at his reservations. My only option left is to try to keep my distance as much as possible while maintain my availability as a good friend who he can rely on.

With that said, and while I'm certainly not perfect, and yet have a long way to go in bettering myself, I have resolved that, should I ever be given another chance, I would immediately enact the following behavior, priority above all else (this isn't a perfect list, and tailored to myself, but some good principles to follow if you care about someone):

1. I would inform my friends and family, unashamedly, that I was dating a man and proudly be gay for it (celebrated with a date)
2. Contact my boss and inform him of my gay relationship (as he said many transphobic things)
3. Verbally express my appreciation of him, and pride in his accomplishments- BE A SUPPORTING BOYFRIEND
4. Unashamedly display my affection publicly (Facebook status as well), if the world has a problem with two men together, tough noogies.
5. NOT make offensive comments of race, sex, etc- I am not that person.
6. Forget trans* as a facet of his character- a man in mind is a man the same as any other.
7. Be interesting- do fun things and show the relaxed me- it's okay to be accepted by someone who cares about you.

I'm sure the grammar in that list is terrible, but the idea remains. While I don't expect to be able to put that to use, it's good to have handy, just in case.

I am now in a position which I think others can benefit from in learning from my mistakes. It is important to be mindful of the things you say to and about people- even if those people aren't there to hear it, hurtful words are oppressive. If you want someone to be happy, earn their affection through what you do and how you act, rather than what you can buy them. Be honest with yourself and the people you know about who you are and be proud of the person you are dating. Stand up for what is right when others espouse what is wrong, and have no fear of the consequences. Educate yourself on the issues they face every day. Do not be afraid of your sexuality or how it appears to other people. If you have somebody who means the world to you, as I did, you already have the most important opinion on your side. If, in the end, things don't work out for other reasons, let them not be issues of arrogance, fear, or stubbornness.

While I cannot undo what I have said and done, I can certainly make sure it never happens again.
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Sia

It's great and romantic that love made you see the light and reform your ways and all, but I long for the day I'll see a former bigot's apology owning their bigotry instead of blaming it on someone or something that happened to them. Saying "I was made this way against my will but now am free of my shackles" cheapens both the apology and the gravity of their previous actions - like "hey, actually deep down I was awesome all along so I can't really be expected to acknowledge and take responsibility for what I said/did, and you can't really blame me! You should applaud me for overcoming this great burden really, I'm the victim here!"

You said "I cannot use my childhood experiences as an excuse for my actions", but if you truly think that, then why did you spend half of your post describing them in great detail, and why did you present them as "the number of reasons" why you were this way?

We all had less-than-perfect childhoods (because these only exist in Hollywood productions), we all dealt with hardships and unpleasant experiences, but we're also all independent human beings with a functioning brain and the capacity to educate ourselves, think and take decisions. The only single reason why you acted this way was because you chose to do so. It's awesome that you turned 180° and now want to be the best ally possible, really, few people are willing to do that, but don't try to pretend otherwise.


Now I expect to be reprimanded for not throwing a parade to the privileged person who made us the honor of taking the great effort to step down of their pedestal and acknowledge the fact that we are human beings just like them, as is expected of us both outside and inside the "communities", but I don't think anyone deserves a cookie for being a decent world citizen - it's a basic requirement for being worthy of respect.
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Cisfool

Quote from: Sia on November 17, 2012, 03:43:06 PM
It's great and romantic that love made you see the light and reform your ways and all, but I long for the day I'll see a former bigot's apology owning their bigotry instead of blaming it on someone or something that happened to them. Saying "I was made this way against my will but now am free of my shackles" cheapens both the apology and the gravity of their previous actions - like "hey, actually deep down I was awesome all along so I can't really be expected to acknowledge and take responsibility for what I said/did, and you can't really blame me! You should applaud me for overcoming this great burden really, I'm the victim here!"

You said "I cannot use my childhood experiences as an excuse for my actions", but if you truly think that, then why did you spend half of your post describing them in great detail, and why did you present them as "the number of reasons" why you were this way?

We all had less-than-perfect childhoods (because these only exist in Hollywood productions), we all dealt with hardships and unpleasant experiences, but we're also all independent human beings with a functioning brain and the capacity to educate ourselves, think and take decisions. The only single reason why you acted this way was because you chose to do so. It's awesome that you turned 180° and now want to be the best ally possible, really, few people are willing to do that, but don't try to pretend otherwise.


Now I expect to be reprimanded for not throwing a parade to the privileged person who made us the honor of taking the great effort to step down of their pedestal and acknowledge the fact that we are human beings just like them, as is expected of us both outside and inside the "communities", but I don't think anyone deserves a cookie for being a decent world citizen - it's a basic requirement for being worthy of respect.

The fact that I don't accept my history as an excuse does not lessen its shaping of my life. Simply saying "I was a bigot and I'm sorry" is greatly superficial and overlooks the most significant part of what I said- that I didn't actually agree with what I was saying. The next logical question is then "Why did you do those things?" And the answer is in my past. Rather than wait for the middle-man, I presented all necessary information at once.

I believe you've missed the purpose of this post in its entirety. I neither deserve nor want 'a cookie.' This is an attempt to reach out to people who I have previously hurt and a pledge to fix the problems I created. I take full responsibility for my actions and blame nobody but myself. In conjunction with this, I believe that other people who were in my position can learn from my mistakes. If you are submitting, however, that it is easy to break away from ones norms (whatever they may be and however they are set), I will have to politely and strongly disagree with you.

If you want to nitpick this post and disregard the most basic of its tenants, by all means, I won't stop you. This is the internet. Bear in mind, however, that the scrutiny you maintain reflects that which many people such as myself have shown the people I am addressing, and ultimately perpetuates misunderstanding and lack of support for other people. You may argue that people such as myself 'deserve' this, and if you did, you are welcome to that opinion. Comments such as yours are expected, I've made my peace with that.
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Devlyn

I'll give you high grades for apologizing, it isn't always an easy thing to do. Welcome to Susan's Place. Hugs, Devlyn
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Kevin Peña

Regardless of the reasons for your animosity towards the LGBT community, I will gladly accept your apology. Diluted by your reasoning or not, it still takes stones to admit that you were wrong and step up. Great job, it is much appreciated.  :)
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blueconstancy

"Now I expect to be reprimanded for not throwing a parade to the privileged person who made us the honor of taking the great effort to step down of their pedestal and acknowledge the fact that we are human beings just like them, as is expected of us both outside and inside the "communities", but I don't think anyone deserves a cookie for being a decent world citizen - it's a basic requirement for being worthy of respect."

For what it's worth, I agree with you, Sia. The list in the OP is a good start, but it's what should be expected of any decent human being. As for being the best ally possible, the test of that is actions, not plans. Also, people who have previously been hurt are under no obligation to engage with anyone - past history or not! - and may be justifiably wary.

(Could be I'm also cranky at this point because of the number of people who have lined up to tell me I'm "so brave" and special and wonderful for LOVING MY WIFE. >-bleeped-< that; I love her because she's wonderful and lovable and I couldn't imagine life without her, not because doing so makes some sort of point or should be considered anything but *expected.* None of these people thought standing by my husband was odd, so they can stop lavishing praise on me for staying with her - the unspoken assumption there is "now that she's some sort of freak." If I had to draw up a list of lessons on how to have a relationship with a trans person, it would begin and end with "love them, listen to them, and be willing to work your butt off on the relationship." Which, coincidentally, is the same list I have regarding cis people...)

(Full disclosure : I ID as genderqueer myself, so this is not "lessons learned by a cis person" anyway.)
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Kevin Peña

Well, people were probably praising you for not being the type of person to leave someone out of hate towards trans people, like a lot of people do with their trans spouses, despite the stigma behind doing so, not because you stayed with a "freak."

Of course, I could be wrong.
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blueconstancy

#7
(I should have added that, to be fair, the OP is a good start. It's only a start, but plenty of people don't make it that far.)

Diane, that's precisely why, and it's also why I find it offensive - I don't say so directly to those people, of course, because they're well-meaning and trying to be kind. But in the end, transition is just one possible huge stressor on a relationship (there's also having kids, a death in the family, a major career change, etc.) and treating it like it's in a special category only highlights the unspoken underlying opinion that trans people are so weird as not to deserve basic human decency. So a compliment that translates basically as "congrats on not being a transphobic jerk"... well, um, thanks, but I'd like to think that should be assumed as the starting point!

I should have clarified that I don't think spouses necessarily leave out of hate, either; some do, but some simply cannot adjust their orientation or their needs enough to be compatible anymore. I've seen enough spouses who agonized and struggled and desperately wanted to make it work, and I'd never criticize someone who put in all the effort they could and it still wasn't enough.
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Kevin Peña

Well, unfortunately, people haven't progressed as a whole to accepting us yet, so if someone congratulates you on being more open-minded, just take the compliment.  :)
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Shantel

Cisfool,
      That was a long read but very heartfelt, I above all can appreciate where you're coming from because I've lived on both sides of that fence. I could have worn your dad's shoes because I am a former Vietnam combat Veteran with PTSD issues, alcoholic, physical and verbal abusive propensities and a bigot. We occasionally get a second chance and there are some lucky enough to experience a personal epiphany as you and I have. At one time I was very derisive towards GLBTI folks and now I are one. Take heart, you're young yet and learned early what some never do learn. My life is richer for my change of heart and I'm sure that yours will be too. You'll have to stop beating yourself up though first. Bless you kid! (((Hugs)))
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Sia

Quote from: Cisfool on November 17, 2012, 05:16:01 PM
The fact that I don't accept my history as an excuse does not lessen its shaping of my life. Simply saying "I was a bigot and I'm sorry" is greatly superficial and overlooks the most significant part of what I said- that I didn't actually agree with what I was saying.

It doesn't matter whether or not you internally agreed with what you used to do or say. Intent doesn't matter - that's a key thing about discrimination that many people on the other side don't get. When you hurt someone, they don't care how much you personally believe they deserved it, it still hurts just as much. If 5 people in a day throw homophobic or transphobic crap at/around me, I couldn't care less if 4 of them were secretly just doing it to fit in or vent their anger or whatever, the end result is the same - I've been made to feel hurt and unsafe and belittled and alienated and angry 5 times in the day.

I once read an amazing blog post by a trans girl on the subject of intent, but I won't risk linking it here as the language is very NSFW - if you (when you'll have 15 posts) or someone else wants the link I can send it by PM.

QuoteThe next logical question is then "Why did you do those things?" And the answer is in my past. Rather than wait for the middle-man, I presented all necessary information at once.
[...]
If you are submitting, however, that it is easy to break away from ones norms (whatever they may be and however they are set), I will have to politely and strongly disagree with you.

Yes, your past made it very easy to follow this route, and doing otherwise would have been a hard choice - but it was still a choice. Very few people (if any) have what it takes to do the right thing everytime if they are presented an easy way out instead, or if they have been surrounded by people doing the opposite. It's OK. We're humans, not saints or superheroes. But as humans, while we can't deny that, we can't deny either that the choice was there all along. That is what I meant.

I'm not saying that I don't accept your apology - I don't give a damn about apologies. As Sarah7 said just above me, while redemption makes for good TV arcs, it's a moot thing in real life. Same for revenge. I don't think you deserve a cookie any more than a public hanging, and if this is what you took out of my post you misinterpreted it. You did bad stuff, you admitted it, and now you want to do good stuff - great! Go do it. Water under bridges and all that.
(I didn't say either that you personally was only here for the metaphorical cookies - it's just that a lot of self-appointed "allies" are in it just for that, and do a whole lot of talking but very little doing, and the queer/trans* community is often pressured by both sides to be grateful anyway and run to the bakery in all due haste.)

Just one last thing :

QuoteBear in mind, however, that the scrutiny you maintain reflects that which many people such as myself have shown the people I am addressing

What? No. Maybe I'm the one misinterpreting now, but if you're suggesting that analyzing an individual's words and debating their meaning and philosophical topics such as free will and personal responsibility can be in any way compared to blanket xenophobia and discrimination, I just - no. I hope I don't need to explain.
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Cisfool

Sia, even if I managed to find the time to put into arguing with you, I have no interest regardless. Thank you for the input.
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Sia

Quote from: Cisfool on November 17, 2012, 09:14:08 PM
Sia, even if I managed to find the time to put into arguing with you, I have no interest regardless. Thank you for the input.

I wasn't trying to argue - if you interpreted my posts as angry, confrontational, vindictive or any of these kind of things it wasn't my intent. I was just offering my point of view on your posts. I wish people would stop misconstructing bluntness and an openness to debate as anger or aggressivity, but alas - I'm used to it, even though it never ceases to boggle my mind. I wish I knew how to sugarcoat things but I suck so much at it it always comes off as sarcasm. You're of course free to disregard my posts for any reason you see fit (although I would have liked to hear your thoughts on them) just clarifying that point.

(Disclaimer : there isn't any sarcasm, passive-aggressiveness or veiled attacks in this post or the precedent ones. I swear! Why can't you people take things at face value?  :embarrassed:)


edit - ok, so the OP who wrote a whole novel to the community is not interested in discussing feedback from members of said community about said novel, and discussing matters of personal responsibility and explaining what it's like to be an oppressed minority is akin to beating the **** out of oppressed people out of sheer xenophobic hatred. Right. I'm not interested in pity-parties and won't partake in soothing the wounds of the priviledged people who feel guilty about hurting and oppressing minorities because big bad society made them so - not that I wish them any harm or don't want/trust them to be allies either, but I feel like explaining that is as effective as (as we say in French) pissing in a violin. Have fun distributing cookies, today I baked a delicious cake and I'm gonna eat it all by myself.
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Cisfool

There is a fuzzy line between
Quote from: Sia on November 17, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
bluntness and an openness to debate
and "arguing." Whatever you want to call it, arguing, debate, or critical assessment, are not something I have the time or interest in. Take my post as you will and leave whatever feedback you want.
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Kevin Peña

You sure seemed to have a lot of time in typing that long read!  :laugh:

Of course, I'm just yanking your chain. Don't take me too seriously.  :)
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Shantel

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 17, 2012, 05:22:32 PM
I'll give you high grades for apologizing, it isn't always an easy thing to do. Welcome to Susan's Place. Hugs, Devlyn

Count me with you're kind of thinking here Devlyn, meanwhile I have noted that there is an enormous lack of empathy and human compassion expressed by others here for someone who is obviously grieved by his own past errors and really doesn't need any further criticism other than what he has heaped upon himself already. This reminds me of a reverse scenario of the video where the trans woman was down and being kicked in the head by those CIS women who felt wronged by her presence.
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Jamie D

Cisfool -

I don't think you are a fool.  A fool does not learn from their mistakes.

And I am in no position to speak for the community, because I have made many of the same mistakes in my life.  I'm human, I'm falable.

Sometimes, it is not the mistakes we make, but what we learn from them, that is of most importance.  And mistakes in dealing with affairs of the heart are the most instructive - and the most painful.

It is my sincere hope that "Tiger" is a member here, and that he recognizes your anguish.  And if "Tiger" has a forgiving heart, he will work on helping you overcome the past, and, hopefully, begin to build a future.

We are all products of our environment; but, that is something we can work to change.  I wish you the very best, and thank you for your heartfelt post.
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tekla

The purpose of me writing this is so that other people, cisgender people in particular, can learn from the mistakes I made.

Which makes this kind of a strange place (pretty slim numbers of target population) to post this unless you're looking for some sort of forgiveness that none of us can really offer you.  I'd think you really should reach out to the people involved rather than write some huge sweeping general deal to a bunch of people who were not involved.  They were really the ones hurt by this far more than any of us were, they deserve the apology (and the change in behavior, and whatever amends might be in order) more than we do.  And you should do that without expecting that the apology will be accepted.  And you should also know that, more often than not, apologies are frequently insufficient to really change things once all that water has gone under the bridge for that long a period.

And, at that, it should really be done face to face, looking them in the eyes as you do it.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Cisfool

Quote from: tekla on November 18, 2012, 03:53:20 PM
The purpose of me writing this is so that other people, cisgender people in particular, can learn from the mistakes I made.

Which makes this kind of a strange place (pretty slim numbers of target population) to post this unless you're looking for some sort of forgiveness that none of us can really offer you.  I'd think you really should reach out to the people involved rather than write some huge sweeping general deal to a bunch of people who were not involved.  They were really the ones hurt by this far more than any of us were, they deserve the apology (and the change in behavior, and whatever amends might be in order) more than we do.  And you should do that without expecting that the apology will be accepted.  And you should also know that, more often than not, apologies are frequently insufficient to really change things once all that water has gone under the bridge for that long a period.

And, at that, it should really be done face to face, looking them in the eyes as you do it.

I'm not sure why you are assuming that I haven't already confronted those who I mention in person, but it is an incorrect assumption to make. I am certainly not thick enough to think that my apology would be accepted by anybody, and is the best I can do to people who I have hurt indirectly, outside of research and supporting other people who I do know in person.

As for presenting it here, there are two main reasons to do so:

1. I am able to apologize broadly to people who were impacted by me INDIRECTLY.
2. I think it is perfectly reasonable to assume that there are many cisgender people who already have something like this in mind and would be looking for topics such as this on websites like this. That demographic in particular is more likely to be reached through these forums than, say, a forum on the many uses of dental floss.

Thank you for the comment all the same.
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Cisfool

Quote from: Shantel on November 18, 2012, 08:58:54 AM
Count me with you're kind of thinking here Devlyn, meanwhile I have noted that there is an enormous lack of empathy and human compassion expressed by others here for someone who is obviously grieved by his own past errors and really doesn't need any further criticism other than what he has heaped upon himself already. This reminds me of a reverse scenario of the video where the trans woman was down and being kicked in the head by those CIS women who felt wronged by her presence.

Thank you for the support you've shown, Shantel. I appreciate it greatly.
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