Considering voice surgery (Cricothyroid approximation)

[Medusa]

Hi,
I have scheduled Adam's apple reduction to 11 March, as I talk with surgeon he recommend me to do voice surgery (Cricothyroid approximation) during it
I'm not a fan of this surgeries, but what I read about it, it just block falling to lower tones, so it don't look so drastic
Booth is covered by insurance so I considering it

[Freyja_Joro]

I don't about this particular one, but what's the Success and Failure rate?

[Medusa]

RESULTS: A response rate of 93% was obtained; 86% of patients thought their laryngeal profile had improved, 79% thought their voice had improved, and 55% thought that surgery and 21% thought that speech therapy had helped more in improving the voice. Overall, 79% were satisfied with the results of the surgery.

CONCLUSIONS: Cricothyroid approximation and thyroid chondroplasty have a high patient satisfaction rate.

[Freyja_Joro]

To be honest, it's your choice, if you think the decision is right for you, do it.

[Eve87]

Yes, it raises your "standard" effortless pitch considerably and somehow "blocks" lower registries. (It gets progressively harder for me as I go below 150-160H, for example)
Had it done less than a year ago. One of the best decisions I've ever made. But you know what they say; plural of anecdote is not data. 

[Padma]

But you know what they say; plural of anecdote is not data.

Wherever that's from, it's brilliant.

[peky]

Yes, it raises your "standard" effortless pitch considerably and somehow "blocks" lower registries. (It gets progressively harder for me as I go below 150-160H, for example)
Had it done less than a year ago. One of the best decisions I've ever made. But you know what they say; plural of anecdote is not data.

I seen soem of the medical data, and the new procedures seems to be very helpful for people like me who cannot rise the pitch with voice therapy alone.

Could you provide the name of your doctor? also how much was the procedure?

[Eve87]

My surgery (and a friend's soon after me) was done by Dr. Bonte @ Ghent university hospital.

Talked about it a little bit in this thread https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,119773.0.html

[Rita]

omfgbbqwtfthx

I didn't know about this surgury till now and the prices are significantly less than SRS and since my adams apple isn't huge and my vocal range can hit the low level this might be the finishing  touch and omg omg omg.  Please tell me a good surgeon!   

I am now more interested in this than I am SRS. 

[Beverly]

I am now more interested in this than I am SRS.

Why? It may raise your pitch, it may reduce your chest resonance, but will it improve your head resonance? Will it change your inflection and intonation? Will it change you word choice? Will it change your breathing?

The point is that if you have already raised your pitch and eliminated resonance then this surgery will make little difference. I know someone who had it and she still speaks in a male pattern - monotone with falling pitch at the end of each sentence. Even after the surgery people still call her 'sir' on the phone.

[Rita]

Yes you still need to work on your voice but if it helps make it easier to keep a pitch without getting tired as easily I am all game.  When I talk in a feminine voice I can sound girly but sometimes drop into a scary manly man voice

If this surgery can eliminate the sharp drop to manly man I am all game for it. 

Everything else will come with more, and more practice.  Wording is subjective~ I have heard some cis ladies use very masculine wording.  Although I do not.

[Beverly]

Yes you still need to work on your voice but if it helps make it easier to keep a pitch without getting tired as easily I am all game.  When I talk in a feminine voice I can sound girly but sometimes drop into a scary manly man voice

If this surgery can eliminate the sharp drop to manly man I am all game for it. 

That is all it does. It limits your range so that you find it harder to get to the male range. Even the surgeons state that it will not give you a female voice.

Everything else will come with more, and more practice.  Wording is subjective~ I have heard some cis ladies use very masculine wording.  Although I do not.

Word choice counts. Inflection and intonation really count.

Well, good luck with it. I hope it works out better for you than it did for my friend.

[Rita]

Thanks 

[LilDevilOfPrada]

Hi,
I have scheduled Adam's apple reduction to 11 March, as I talk with surgeon he recommend me to do voice surgery (Cricothyroid approximation) during it
I'm not a fan of this surgeries, but what I read about it, it just block falling to lower tones, so it don't look so drastic
Booth is covered by insurance so I considering it

I am curious just how did you get your insurance to cover such operations?? If its to personal you dont have to tell but i really would to know :)after all I am someone whos going to use my deviated septum to get my insurance to pay for my nose job

[Medusa]

I am curious just how did you get your insurance to cover such operations?? If its to personal you dont have to tell but i really would to know :)after all I am someone whos going to use my deviated septum to get my insurance to pay for my nose job

One of "advantage" of European healthcare, they take huge amount of your income, but cover lot, from what I paid to this black hole all surgeries can be easy covered 

[LilDevilOfPrada]

One of "advantage" of European healthcare, they take huge amount of your income, but cover lot, from what I paid to this black hole all surgeries can be easy covered 

My country considers transition not as a treatment process but as cosmetic work XD not fair so no one covers anthing related to it.

[Medusa]

My country considers transition not as a treatment process but as cosmetic work XD not fair so no one covers anthing related to it.

This is only "cosmetic surgery" covered where I live.  Then of course SRS and hormones is covered, but BA and get rid of beard is considered as cosmetic, but also GG have problems with that, so it is fair I think.
And that for 13,5 % of gross income