my 2 cent, I am in the US and been using the men's for over a year now. I do not use the urinals as I haven't found a STP that works for me. I can make the medicine spoon type work in the shower but when I try with my jeans or other pant on I have a problem. My urethra opening seems to be so far under me that when I get the STP in place through the fly in my pant the opening is pointed up and the urine can't flow out. I haven't been able to find any pant that have a zipper that opens far enough down for me to use a STP. I would have to wear my pants way down on my hips to have the zipper open lower enough which doesn't look good. I hate to see guys with there pant that low, I saw some on the train the other day. Anyway in most the men's room I go into have at least one urinal that is much lower than the others, I thought is way that way for the little boys to use. Last summer at a ballpark I was in a men's room that had the trough urinals around the walls with all the guys there peeing. Also in one with urinals around all the walls and no dividers between them. I don't think I will ever to be able to use those types of urinals, even with successful lower surgery.
