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Pica Pica

Hello,

I've called myself Pica Pica, which is the latin term for the european m->-bleeped-<-ie. The idea is that i go around nabbing all the nice shiny elements of life, including the nice shiny elements of both gender.

I was born a man 21 years ago. I always played with the girls and generally drifted around. I am probably a daydreamer and hopeless romantic before anything else. People didn't laugh at me much, just called me 'quirky' and let me play as i wanted to play.  I used to have handpuppets and played with them until I was about 15/16, understanding their characters and families, and the architecture of where they live and national costume etc... Being such may have been a contributing factor to, or helpful shying away from a lonileness i have always felt. What is weird is that everyone regards me as a social person, it has always been in these crowds when I have felt most lonely. (Not to say I haven't really enjoyed myself lots of times also).

I have cross-dressed in girls' (and indeed girly) underwear and pj's since i was free from parental constraint, (and even a bit under the radar). In university, my housemates just took that as a quirk as I took one of their obsessive newspaper hoarding a quirk, and everything was nice. Even before I lived with them, one of them always called me a girl when I'd say something about how I see something, she said this in an affectionate way. At school I used to have a gay best-friend, the joke was always there go the gay guy and his effeminate friend.

Recently I thought I was transgendered, I thought there was nothing about men that I wanted to be, however it didn't take me long to realise that it was not the case. I did go to my GP and tell my parents, and I did a few excercises, namely I listed what I was and what I wanted to be...I couldn't escape the fact that I am male and do have a male identity, it's not just genetalia, my memories are male, my learnt behaviours, my self is male - but although I identify as a male, I identify with females...

Which leads me here, I reckon that I feel mostly a intergendered type of person...These sort of things are not merely layers, they are structures to help build a self image in...and I need to learn new self images...

I hope you can help me ... and I you.
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Laura Elizabeth Jones

Welcome to the board, there is lots of good info here and cool people to talk to, enjoy your stay.  :)
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Suzy

Welcome, Pica Pica!

Glad to have you aboard.  You will find folks here all across the spectrum.  So enjoy your stay and join in the lively discussions.

Kristi
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uoroaix

wow welcome. I just joined this forum not so long ago myself. And the way you feel in your introduction is very similar to me. There is a part of me that wanted to become a girl. And thus I was confused as to if I am 
transsexual. I've asked myself before if I go through a transition and lived as a female for the rest of my life will I be fine? And the answer is yes. Which amazed me. I then also asked if I just stay as a male for the rest of my life will I absolutely hate it. And I answer myself that I will also be fine if I live as a male. So this really confuses me...A large part of me really wanted to be a girl, yet I am not like the normal transsexual that I see myself in the wrong sex physical body. Though I am not too sure what I am, I think I can conclude that I am just a CD yet feels a bit more deeply toward to change my sex? It's almost like I have two personality yet through the years it has already kind of mix together a bit.

Anyway glad to meet you. By the way I think I am about your age. I am also 21.
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Pica Pica

cheers for the welcomes.

yeah i'm 21.

I'm not sure where to strike the balance yet.

The balance being a balance of expression, all of what I have done so far leads me to feel quite happy with what I am, whatever that be, and so all I need to do is work out how to express this properly.

Though if I had ever been asked before I was born to choose male or female, I would have chosen female and if I could snap my fingers and change; I would. However, I am a man by birth and have grown up such. However I am unsure whether my current state is because I am increasingly happy with my possible androgyny or is it just because I am too scared to be like the brave people transitioning? I know for a fact I would lose my family if I ever did try to transition...However I have very little wish to now.

Who knows? we'll see.
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Sylvia H

Hi,

I am very new here as well. (Like day before yesterday)  Can relate to your post.  I find internally I can be male or female, sometimes both at the same time, and sometimes actively neither. And no that doesnt make me schizophrenic. Feeling neither is not a problem, though feeling like both usually leaves me feeling depleted after a while.
None of those things have any physical sexual value to speak of. Androgyny seems to be where I spend most of my time. It seems to be the most practical in the daily routine.
I really havent heard this discussed much on other places in the ether, but have seen several references to what you speak of here. Looks like we picked the right place.

xox
Sylvia
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tinkerbell

Hello Pica Pica and welcome to Susan's!

Thank you for your introduction.  Please take a few moments to get familiar with all the forums of the site, review the site rules and take advantage of our many resources such as the wiki, chat, and the links listed at the main page.  We look forward to your future posts and participation.  Enjoy your stay!

tink :icon_chick:
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HelenW

Welcome Pica Pica, to Susan's! 

I'm happy to make your acquaintance!  I had similar feelings for a long time and I finally clarified my self to myself (if that's not too confusing) and decided I couldn't be both or neither gender, that I was more woman than anything else.  This may not be your path, maybe it'll cahnge over your life as it did for me and I hope you find your way quickly.  I hope we can help.

hugs & smiles
helen
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

My rarely updated blog: http://emelyes-kitchen.blogspot.com

Southwestern New York trans support: http://www.southerntiertrans.org/
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Pica Pica


Hello,

Helen, I hope I find my way quickly, resolution would be lovely.  :icon_cute:

I can't say that I've always known I was female, all I can say is that I've always felt out of sync in some way, half a person, like my own contacts with the outside world has been mediated through a big frosty pane of glass. When i was little i attributed this to may daydreaming nature, though whenever a (really quite rare) ocassion occured when males and female were polarised, I did feel myself the wrong side of the room.

Though I had the odd wish to be female, I never thought about gender at all, even when cross-dressing I would focus on the patterns and colours rather than the gender. I lived with a rabid femenist, who could have taught me all sorts of things about gender but I was never interested.

I attributed the frosty sheet of glass to dyspraxia, a true synaptic block between thoughts and deeds, but could never have this self diagnosis confirmed by a test because it cost too much.

After university I have temporarily moved back with my parents, lovely people but oh so ordered, to a town I hate and a poorly paid job with lots of hours. I will leave again in october - but the lack of stimulation and self-worth has been truly confidence destroying. As have the fact that I seem to have 'come over' too shy to meet any new friends, so I am really alone and bored. Then 3 of my grandparents died in a space of a month, some of whom I was really, really fond of.

I was all alone and bored and grieving. So I went on a 3d chat room, and for some reason, registered my avatar as a woman. And I felt so good, talking to women as a woman, talking to men as a woman, having men tell me that they thought of me, deciding what she should wear - and never lying - except for pronouns and genital references. Even those phantom genitals were based on the ones that I'd had fantasies about. (For some reason, every time I've fantasised about 'lying' with a woman it transmogrified to 'lying' as a woman - and anytime I tried to fantasise about 'lying' with a man, it was as a woman. Weirdly, I still didn't question my gender then.)

I was surprised at my delight at being treatd female. Even though all the conversations took place through pixelated characters, I felt the plate of glass had been lowered and I was fully engaging with people.

I started to read about transgender type things and really felt it explained about what was missing in my life. I started to feel like I was a female. I started to feel the anxiety described as bein GID - But before I had looked into this, I hadn't been at all interested in gender, and hadn't really conciously identified myself as anything. I told a few friends, my parents and my sister and they all said the same thing. They all said that my typically fantasist mind had disuised all previous mental anguish as GID so I could see a wonder solution. They all thought I was kidding myself.

I said, sod 'em and went to my GP - I am now on the (infinitely large) waiting list for a gender therapist. Though one thing was true, I hadn't felt the anxiety until I discovered the problem.

I grew my hair and nails, studied women's posture and waited.

My parents initially greeted my news well, but then slid downhill. It was when my dad fixed me a glass of port and told me that if I carried on this path then I would probably not have a family.

I said sod 'em. It was not the first time my family had threatened to disown me, however it was relenting my own will and doing what they had wanted that put me in the manky town feeling more lonely than I had/have ever felt.

A few days later I first read about psychological androgeny, it highlighted all the things that I didn't see in myself abot GID. That although before I learnt about it I had exxperiened only fleeting wishes to be female, that my anxiety had all come after finding out about it. Then I saw a documentary about britain's youngest transsexual and I could not identify with her, or feel what she was doing was worth the result.

A few days later and I was walking the dog and very suddenly filled with peace and euphoria and other good things. The wish to be a woman had gone, I was back as I was, no real interest in my own gender and feeling calm and angst free.

I still talk as a woman, I still covet some of the clothes, and some of the poses and freedoms...but it is not a weight on me because I control my own mind and I can choose what bits of femininty to emulate, and I can also choose what bits of masculinity suit me also.

And I feel free.

And alone.

And I don't identify with anyone but fictional characters just as it was before.

And I really need to work out what to do with my hair.
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Kendall

Welcome to Susan's,
Great firsts posts.

QuoteThough if I had ever been asked before I was born to choose male or female, I would have chosen female and if I could snap my fingers and change; I would. However, I am a man by birth and have grown up such. However I am unsure whether my current state is because I am increasingly happy with my possible androgyny or is it just because I am too scared to be like the brave people transitioning? I know for a fact I would lose my family if I ever did try to transition...However I have very little wish to now.

There are several that have found it was fear and gone on to transition. There are some that thought they were TS and realized that they were AG. Everything works out in the end, and like people always say, just be you, labels are just labels, not definitions, rules, or guidelines of your self.

Fear is an obstacle that is universal.

Your 21 years old. No matter what gender or expression one is, your career and becoming financially stable and independent is a major focus. As long as you let your parents control your financial destiny and have to live in their house, their rules, and their money, you will not be entirely free to be yourself. You may even loose your family, yes. But as many have typed before, that is their choice and will result in consequences of their own for them as well. When one gains their own financial stability and in one's own home (or with roomates that you can still be free to be yourself), they also gain a wealth of ability to define their own lives. As well as gain the ability to pay for your own fun stuff. As well as any TG stuff or transitioning stuff if that so becomes your path.

Have fun with trying further Gender free expressions, behaviors, and communications to see whats right for you.

Welcome again,

Kendall
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gennee

Welcome, Pica Pica. We all have gone through similar experiences. This is a wonderful site where you can meet great people and get great advice, too.

Gennee


:)
Be who you are.
Make a difference by being a difference.   :)

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Pica Pica

Thanks.

I'm lucky really, except for these elements of life, I pretty much know where I want to slot in in this world of ours. I want to write novels, well, I do write novels, just need to find a publisher to agree. It is this, which is the main focus of my life and cause of worry and such - gender issues are an interesting sideline where you meet and read of people who have had to gain a number of quite craxy skills and maturity just to be....
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