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name change - when did you do it

Started by ford, January 29, 2013, 07:30:23 PM

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ford

Ok, there have been a few name threads recently but I think this one is sufficiently different to warrant a new topic. In brief: at what stage in your transition did you legally change your name? Also, at what point did you start having others call you by that name (before you changed it legally, for example?).

Background:

At this point I'm in the three months of counseling prior to T. I figure I owe myself that amount of time at least to really try to figure out if physical transition is the course I want to take (so far it's been an unequivocal YES). So I'm kind of in a holding pattern. I look pretty androgynous, and I'm doing my best to present male. HOWEVER, I have quite possibly the girliest name in existence, and I find it's a real source of anxiety. What's the point of trying to look as male as I feel if, in class, the prof. is going to holler out my ridiculous female name, or if every supermarket clerk I encounter will see it when I hand over my card.

I mean, I don't quite pass, but maybe this would help with my confidence a bit? Perhaps I should ask my professors to use the male name I've picked out as a 'nickname'? For what it's worth, the name I've picked is masculine, but there are females who have it occasionally, so it wouldn't be too odd... Or perhaps I should gently suggest to my relatives, spouse, etc that I'd like to be called something else? Or is this another one of those major sources of regret...should I just wait?

I don't know. Thoughts? When did this happen for all of you?
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Adam (birkin)

I asked people to call me Caleb as soon as I came out as trans. I had been reading up on T and surgeries for years before I decided to come out so at that point, I was just ready.

I also changed my name legally while pre-T and not passing. It was better for me, personally, because just hearing my old name was a stab in the heart. It was weird when people realized it was a guy's name, but most times people just thought I was a girl named Caleb and didn't think anything of it.
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crazy at the coast

Since this isn't in the ftm section, I assume it ok for me(mtf) to respond to it as well.


I waited til I was ready for fulltime before I changed mine, which was just over two years into hrt. I didn't ask anyone to start calling me by it until I changed it legally, that way I wasn't concerned about changing it later or anything, it was basically set in stone by then.
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Johe

I'm still in the early stages of transitioning. I've only just made an appointment for a gender therapist, but I know even now I play with names because, like you, I have a super feminine name. I have asked several people, especially professors (and some will even ask), what name you'd prefer. I always sent an email or note and it's never been a problem for most people. The most difficult group of people I had to remind was family. I don't know if they're desperately trying to hold onto the "old me" or what, but they refuse to use anything other than what they've always known me as, my birth name. They will also be the, probably, the most stubborn group to switch from female to male pronouns when it comes around. I will legally change my name around the same time I officially come out to everyone, which will be by the end of the year.

As for what you should do, you need to do what is most comfortable for you. If you prefer a more masculine name and want it to be used now, then go for it. It can make a difference sometimes in perception.
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DeeperThanSwords

I'm not fully out yet, but when I come out, I'll be asking people to use my male name. I'll probably do that before legally changing it, just to make sure I iron out any kinks first.

As for the old name being on bank cards etc until I get legally recognised as male, I'm not going to worry too much. When paying for stuff, people rarely use the name on the card anyway.
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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Proton

I've been going by my chosen name online and with strangers, when ordering cabs, food, that sort of thing, ever since I started therapy, almost a year ago.

It might be unrealistic of me, but I can't see myself asking people to use my chosen name and male pronouns until I have a grasp on when I'll be able to start hormones. I Might change my mind, though, as I don't have a set time frame for it.

Rena-san

I did it about four months after I started HRT. The price was one of the major reasons I waited ($300). I also felt that a legal name change was a bigger step than HRT--yeah, cause that makes sense.  ???
Anyway, I filed in November, and my court day is actually next week. I'm super excited!
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kelly25

Stil haven't got my name legally changed. But in the process of doing it
But have been using my new name at work and in public
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Constance

When I first took the name Constance/Connie, I wasn't completely out yet. So, people would address me based on my presentation at the time.

I started HRT in June 2011 and started my RLE/went full time in late September 2011. At that point, David ceased to be anything more than a legal designation for me and I had everyone I encountered call me by my chosen name.

That name was made my legal name on 25 January 2013, about two years after choosing it, about 19 months into HRT, and about 1.25 years of full time.

ford

Hmmm, this is all pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for all the answers so far! (Also congrats on the recent legalization of your name, Constance!)

I'm going to ask a follow-up question:

Were you regularly passing when you started having people call you by your chosen name?
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DeeperThanSwords

Quote from: ford on January 29, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
Hmmm, this is all pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for all the answers so far! (Also congrats on the recent legalization of your name, Constance!)

I'm going to ask a follow-up question:

Were you regularly passing when you started having people call you by your chosen name?

I can't speak for that specifically yet, but I intend to ask to be called by my chosen name first, passing can come later.
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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Constance

Quote from: ford on January 29, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
Hmmm, this is all pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for all the answers so far! (Also congrats on the recent legalization of your name, Constance!)
Thanks!

Quote from: ford on January 29, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
I'm going to ask a follow-up question:

Were you regularly passing when you started having people call you by your chosen name?
Yes and no. I still needed to use makeup to hide my beard shadow and I was using full C-cup breast forms at the time. Being 6 feet tall and nearly 200 pounds (then), I thought that the C-cup boobs gave me a balanced look. I also had been through about 5 months of laser on my face and neck as of January 2011. Without the makeup and breast forms, I didn't have a chance of passing.

My 2-years of laser are done now and there's very little of my beard shadow left. I can often get by without any makeup at all and these days I only use a padded bra. I threw my breast forms away at the end of last August.

anya921

I applied for legal name change 6 months after starting HRT but it took another 6 months for the approval. I asked everyone to call me in my new name when I came out to them, one at a time lol. Many started to call me in my new name but some had little bit of a difficult adjusting, but they truly tried.  :angel:  After a year no one call me by my old name.

I applied for the legal name change just before I went full time and one reason to applying for the name change was I had a hard time passing as a male.
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RedFox

I haven't done the legal name change and will probably hold off on that until I'm ready to go full-time (sometime this year I hope).  However, since I made my decision to start transitioning and have started physical changes I've introduced myself to everyone new as Sage.  I have an easier time of it though as Sage is an androgynous name and people haven't really thought twice about it (I even get compliments on it).

Unfortunately only one person in my family is addressing me by my new name and even he has a hard time remembering - but he changed his own name (for different reasons) and he's kindly returning the courtesy I've been extending him.

I say start using your new name when you feel its appropriate.  Its been over a month for me and its already been feeling natural to use and hear Sage.  And it feels disconcerting to hear my old (and very male) name.


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Johe

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Quote from: ford on January 29, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
Were you regularly passing when you started having people call you by your chosen name?

For the most part, I am in girl-mode mostly every day, which means I still am going by female pronouns most of the time. However, I do not wear female clothing, make-up, or the things generally considered female. I'm fairly androgynous in appearance. I do insist by being called by my chosen name, and it's mostly received well and with curiosity. To those who ask, I explain about being FTM, and there is no problem. I've even had a few ask about pronouns.
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ford

Quote from: Johe on January 29, 2013, 11:45:10 PM
For the most part, I am in girl-mode mostly every day, which means I still am going by female pronouns most of the time. However, I do not where female clothing, make-up, or the things generally considered female. I'm fairly androgynous in appearance. I do insist by being called by my chosen name, and it's mostly received well and with curiosity. To those who ask, I explain about being FTM, and there is no problem. I've even had a few ask about pronouns.

Wow Johe, from the posts of yours that I've read it sounds like we are in very similar stages of transition.

So the gist I'm getting here is that many of you unofficially changed your names (or asked to be called a chosen  name) early on, or around when you came out, and the legal business came later.

Ugh I want to change mine so bad, but I have an irrational fear about 'looking weird' or something - a perhaps-girl running around with a male name. I just need to get over that already. The other issue is that I'm going back and forth with a potential employer about a job prospect. He already knows and has met me as a female, soo. I really need the job so I would probably stay female-ish with them and then start changing things after I'm actually employed. I'm really not sure what to do there actually. Sigh...how confusing.  :-\
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Chaos

I haven't done any of the above.I am known by a male name to only a certain circle of friends online but in the open,i have not asked anyone to call me by male pronouns or my given name.I have been officially out for about 6 months now and that fear/disphoria has not kicked in for me yet in alot of ways.the way i like to put it is *i'm a confident person inside and patiently waiting outside* tho i have been finding this really hard lately.it seems a lot of this has started to kick in tho by other means/reasons.Almost like even with the saving,searching for surgeons and everything else,there is a growing need that i don't feel is being met,the name being one of them.
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peky

When the police told me to do so...true story ...LOL
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MidnightKat

It's a little difficult to answer as things get a little gray sometimes during the transition process.  I couldn't afford to have my name changed legally until about 2 years ago although I had already finished transition by that time.  I know I ended up asking those around me to address me as my female self after I started HRT; to the point where I could no longer hide my breasts.
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Johe

Quote from: ford on January 30, 2013, 07:58:58 AM
Wow Johe, from the posts of yours that I've read it sounds like we are in very similar stages of transition.

So the gist I'm getting here is that many of you unofficially changed your names (or asked to be called a chosen  name) early on, or around when you came out, and the legal business came later.

Ugh I want to change mine so bad, but I have an irrational fear about 'looking weird' or something - a perhaps-girl running around with a male name. I just need to get over that already. The other issue is that I'm going back and forth with a potential employer about a job prospect. He already knows and has met me as a female, soo. I really need the job so I would probably stay female-ish with them and then start changing things after I'm actually employed. I'm really not sure what to do there actually. Sigh...how confusing.  :-\

The thing about names is that parents name their kids "outlandish" things all the time, so seeing a female with a male name or vice versa may be a little "exotic" but it's so out of the norm that it is the norm -- does that make sense? The important thing is to have confidence. About your name, your transition, and yourself. It's no easy feat, sure, but imagine how great it'll feel when you are comfortable with who you are.

As for the job, I know I will be doing the same thing soon here. I used my female name, for legal reasons but made a note of what I prefer to be called on the resume/application. When I got a call back or if I knew specifically which company I was applying for, I looked at the work policies and educated myself about their HR department because they will have a part when you do come out. Plus, it may be nice to know you have some sort of support at work than trying to come out on your own. A lot of times this is an education experience for the team too (at least in my small town).

For myself, I feel that the more I know, the more confident I feel. I can spend hours researching a single topic, and it's kind of the way I'm going about my transition. I want to be prepared for whatever may happen, the bad and the good experiences, reactions, and questions. I want to know that I may face the worse of the worse and be able to survive still feeling the need to fight for myself.
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