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Stuck between bad or worse...

Started by Keira, February 12, 2013, 09:35:54 PM

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Keira

I'm at the point where I don't see myself having a relationship or a close friendship if I don't transition. It's hard to have either when you're pretending to be someone you're not. What's even more difficult is the pretending part. Even if I wanted to go back to college, if I don't transition I won't  be mentally capable of college.

Either I transition and risk being treated as just some f***** up ->-bleeped-<- or I continue to pretend to be normal for the rest of my life. I have the choice of either bad or worse, there is no happy ending, no light at the end of the tunnel. Quite honestly I don't have the support nor the strength to transition.
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crazy at the coast

Well, I can tell you that the fears you may have about transitioning are often just that, fears. the realities can be quite different and you'll never know unless you do it. I let fears paralyze me for far too long and now that I've gotten past most of them, life isn't so bad. Its not perfect, but then who's life is? 
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 12, 2013, 09:35:54 PM
I'm at the point where I don't see myself having a relationship or a close friendship if I don't transition. It's hard to have either when you're pretending to be someone you're not. What's even more difficult is the pretending part. Even if I wanted to go back to college, if I don't transition I won't  be mentally capable of college.

Either I transition and risk being treated as just some f***** up ->-bleeped-<- or I continue to pretend to be normal for the rest of my life. I have the choice of either bad or worse, there is no happy ending, no light at the end of the tunnel. Quite honestly I don't have the support nor the strength to transition.

I will say this...how people treat you is a direct result of how you allow them to treat you.

Insist on dignity and respect, same as they would give anyone else. If they can't (because of their religious/social beliefs) then THEY are the ones who are f***ed up. Not you!

Stand tall, be proud! Be confident! Unfortunately, the only one who can give you these things, is yourself. And only you can take them away.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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kelly_aus

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 12, 2013, 09:35:54 PM
Either I transition and risk being treated as just some f***** up ->-bleeped-<- or I continue to pretend to be normal for the rest of my life. I have the choice of either bad or worse, there is no happy ending, no light at the end of the tunnel. Quite honestly I don't have the support nor the strength to transition.

Sorry, what? People will treat you the way you demand.. Or allow them to. I still have all the friends and family I had before I transitioned (plus a bunch I've met since) and not one of them treats me as anything other than a woman. Why? I made it clear from the outset that I wouldn't take any crap, and if they wanted to be like that, there was no place in my life for them..
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Kayla

Hun, I know how you feel. I felt the same way before coming out. All I can tell you is that you'll eventually pass and people will see you for the girl you are and not as some "->-bleeped-<-ed up ->-bleeped-<-." Not to push you, but you seem to know who you are at 19. Generally speaking, the younger you are the better results you get. I started at 22 and I think I got decent enough results. You're fears are normal, a lot of people are afraid of what might happen. It's a big step. I'm sure a lot of people will be there for you and you'll. At the very least, we're here for you.  :)
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Cindy

What Kelly said.

Do not expect to be treated in some way.

DEMAND how to be treated.

It is your life, your decisions, your path. Take it.
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Keira

Thank you for your advice :)

I'm just not sure because I could lose my job. I don't have any laws prohibiting trans discrimination, and I live in Canada.

Also, what am I to do about my homophobic/transphobic religious parents? If I get kicked out of the house there is no way Ill be able to live. I live in an oil/gas boom town and all of the rent costs are ridiculous.

I just don't know what will happen...
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JessicaH

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 13, 2013, 05:00:39 AM
Thank you for your advice :)

I'm just not sure because I could lose my job. I don't have any laws prohibiting trans discrimination, and I live in Canada.

Also, what am I to do about my homophobic/transphobic religious parents? If I get kicked out of the house there is no way Ill be able to live. I live in an oil/gas boom town and all of the rent costs are ridiculous.

I just don't know what will happen...

Here is something you need to remember more than anything else.  Listening?  GID will only get worse until you transition or implode and if you are pushing your breaking point at 19, you are going to need to figure some things out really quick.

Don't live in a T friendly place with no protections? I live in Texas and work in the oil & gas business internationally. Will I loose my job? I'm counting on in but I'm out of choices other than to find a way to make things work because otherwise I'd just assume end my life now. Figure a way to make things happen and go to somewhere like Vancouver BC that is a lot more LGBT friendly.
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Keira

Quote from: JessicaH on February 13, 2013, 05:15:00 AM
Here is something you need to remember more than anything else.  Listening?  GID will only get worse until you transition or implode and if you are pushing your breaking point at 19, you are going to need to figure some things out really quick.

Don't live in a T friendly place with no protections? I live in Texas and work in the oil & gas business internationally. Will I loose my job? I'm counting on in but I'm out of choices other than to find a way to make things work because otherwise I'd just assume end my life now. Figure a way to make things happen and go to somewhere like Vancouver BC that is a lot more LGBT friendly.

Moving is not an option for me, it would just create a huge amount of stress for me. I do plan to move at some point, but not right now; and probably not to Vancouver. Besides the fact that I've never lived on my own before.
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JoanneB

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 12, 2013, 09:35:54 PM
I'm at the point where I don't see myself having a relationship or a close friendship... It's hard to have either when you're pretending to be someone you're not. What's even more difficult is the pretending part.
I can tell you that no matter how good you get at faking being guy, you never get to have real friends. Not only could I not foster any real friends, all of the big accomplishments I achieved in my life all are meaningless. I have nothing to be proud of because the real me did not achieve them. Just like the person behind them, they are are fakes. Unearned

I can also tell you your negative attitude does not reflect today's world. Back 30 or more years ago yes. Which is why I twice gave up on my dream. Today, even though I moved from just outside NYC to the middle of hillbilly country I learned I can achive that dream. I am routinely seen as and accepted as a woman.

I found joy, happiness, meaning, and passion. I found I don't have to go through life being a half dead person
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Keira

Quote from: JoanneB on February 13, 2013, 06:02:44 AM
I can also tell you your negative attitude does not reflect today's world.

Prove it. Because at this point I haven't seen any redeeming qualities in humanity when it comes to bigotry and othering towards people who don't follow social norms.

I live in hick-town population 11,000.

(Sorry for sounding so negative, but I need someplace where I don't have to glue a smile onto my face.)
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 13, 2013, 06:48:28 AM
Prove it. Because at this point I haven't seen any redeeming qualities in humanity when it comes to bigotry and othering towards people who don't follow social norms.

I live in hick-town population 11,000.

(Sorry for sounding so negative, but I need someplace where I don't have to glue a smile onto my face.)

Umm..no. Some of us have been alive for decades, and have lived in nice houses, and in cars.

We don't have to prove anything.  YOU, on the other hand, have to learn to take risks...life, and living, is like that.

Don't like where you're living? LEAVE. Take a chance. Yes, there is a risk you'll fail...but is it any worse than where you are now? The world is a big place...most people are good people.

Only two things to keep in mind when you get out on your own:

First, Do Not Do Drugs or Alcohol, and

Second, Do Not Commit Crimes.

Otherwise...the world is YOURS.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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kelly_aus

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 13, 2013, 06:48:28 AM
Prove it. Because at this point I haven't seen any redeeming qualities in humanity when it comes to bigotry and othering towards people who don't follow social norms.

I live in hick-town population 11,000.

(Sorry for sounding so negative, but I need someplace where I don't have to glue a smile onto my face.)

I still have all the friends I had before i transitioned.. And that includes a bunch from small country towns all over Australia - hardly the places one expects to find enlightened souls.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on February 13, 2013, 09:07:47 AM
Umm..no. Some of us have been alive for decades, and have lived in nice houses, and in cars.

We don't have to prove anything.  YOU, on the other hand, have to learn to take risks...life, and living, is like that.

Don't like where you're living? LEAVE. Take a chance. Yes, there is a risk you'll fail...but is it any worse than where you are now? The world is a big place...most people are good people.

Only two things to keep in mind when you get out on your own:

First, Do Not Do Drugs or Alcohol, and

Second, Do Not Commit Crimes.

Otherwise...the world is YOURS.

Beth makes a good point here. Without risk, life can be very boring. I've taken many risks, some worked, some didn't. One of the biggest risks I've ever taken? Transition - and that seems to have worked out just fine.
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Carrie Liz

Also, I just want to add, transitioning changes EVERYTHING.

I spent almost all of my high school and college years barely having any friends, feeling completely shut-in, completely isolated, constantly thinking self-defeating thoughts like "no one would understand," and like "if I ever told anyone, they'd laugh me into an oblivion and call me names, and I'd be even worse off than before," almost failed out of school three separate times despite also being one of the smartest kids in the entire school, and just never feeling comfortable around other people, never able to live up to my potential, and a host of other things where it just seemed like everything was crumbling down around me and I didn't know what was wrong.

And let me tell you, after less than a month of HRT, EVERYTHING has changed. For the first time, I actually have a sense of self. I'm actually happy with who I am. I actually feel confident talking to people, and actually have the energy to go and do things, and I FINALLY feel like I can be myself... be silly and spontaneous, and laugh, and actually show real emotion instead of just constantly hiding it and just feeling like crap all the time.

I know this is just one person talking, but seriously, a lot of these problems that you are describing... the fear, the lack of "mental energy," the frustration and hopelessness, those very well might all change. I felt a lot of the same feelings when I was just graduating high school. But now, 7 years later, I've discovered that almost all of those feelings were caused by my gender dysphoria. And once I started transitioning, it really was like a complete revelation. Problems that I thought had absolutely nothing to do with my gender identity, problems that I was so sure I'd never get over as long as I live, actually ended up getting better!

So don't give up so quickly. There IS hope out there, and you may be surprised at just how much transitioning can make your mind finally feel right.
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Keira

I guess I just feel like I don't have any support, or anyone who would support me. It's hard to climb when you don't have a ladder. I know that I will be better off if I do transition, but I just can't bring myself to take another step. When you've gone through enough s*** you start to think, "what's the point...". Right now I'd rather do nothing than RISK being s*** on by life one more time.

All of you seem to make transition seem so f****** easy, as though it was as easy as changing your slippers.
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Beth Andrea

#15
When I left the military after 6 years (at 23), I was stuck in southern Idaho...probably one of the most desolate places around in terms of jobs for an unskilled worker like myself.

After a month or two woth no work, no money, and no friends...I wondered what the hell am I to do? Everyone said to go to southern California, lots of jobs there...but that would put me 2000 miles from home without ANYTHING if I failed...

So, what else was there? I sold my truck, bought an old van that I was pretty sure would make it there, sold one of my two guns...and finally left Idaho with $91 in my pocket, and a full tank of gas.

Sometimes...you just gotta leap.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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MadelineB

When I was 17, dirt poor, and dealing with massive dysphoria plus anxiety and PTSD from a lifetime of abuse, i put all my posessions in one old suitcase, flew on budget air 3000 miles from my backward farming town, and started college. The closest soul i knew was 2900 miles away. I had zero support from my family except letters from my little sister. My only assets were between my ears.
I started an entire new life for myself and the rest is history.
Nothing in my life has ever been easy. But it has been worth it.
History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
~Maya Angelou

Personal Blog: Madeline's B-Hive
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Zumbagirl

Quote from: Beth Andrea on February 13, 2013, 01:40:50 PM
ake it there, sold one of my two guns...and finally left Idaho with $91 in my pocket, and a full tank of gas.

Sometimes...you just gotta leap.

I remember when I went full time after getting fired from a job I spent every single penny I had in the world on my FFS surgery. I was literally broke after I sent the money out. I had a new face a new name and no job. That was the big leap I had to take. It was a heck of a leap I'm not going to kid anyone but I made to the other side :)
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Keira

I guess some of us just don't make the leap at all.
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Beth Andrea

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 13, 2013, 03:04:39 PM
I guess some of us just don't make the leap at all.

You will...when you're ready. And only you know when you are.

In the meantime...keep living as best you can.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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