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Focus On The Family Rejects Trans Identities As Disordered And Unhealthy

By Zack Ford on Nov 5, 2012 at 5:15 pm


http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/11/05/1142931/focus-on-the-family-rejects-trans-identities-as-disordered-and-unhealthy/?mobile=nc


Jeff Johnston, Focus on the Family


Jeff Johnston is Focus on the Family's resident ex-gay, and he is increasingly being called upon to speak as an expert on various identity issues, though he bears no such expertise. Following up on the group's promotion of ex-transgender ministries, Johnston is back to spread a series of remarkable falsehoods about what it means to be trans. His claims are built around the false understanding that being trans is a disorder, even though the American Psychiatric Association is declassifying it as such next year. From this false premise, Johnston encourages many mistruths and harmful ideas for supporting transgender youth.

First, Johnston claims that sexual orientation and gender identity are the same, which they aren't:

    [Gender Identity Disorder] is a label usually given to children with same-sex attractions, but it can be given to adults.
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ToriJo

The good news is that Focus is losing its' influence.  When they were at their heyday (think CO Amendment 2), a politician would be terrified if Focus told people to vote for the politician's opponent.  Today, not so much.  They are losing power even in their home state - they kept civil unions from wining the last two legislative sessions, but now CO has a gay speaker of the house, and likely will get a gay president of the senate.  A large part of this, and one of the huge reasons that the republicans lost control of the house this year in CO is that they followed Focus's advise and just plain came across as mean people.  Even conservative grandmas don't like mean people.  They've also had 3 layoffs in the last few years (including one of their former supposed "gender experts").  They are a shadow of what they once were.

That said, they are still hateful bigots disguising their misogyny as religious (I truly believe it's misogyny that motivates them primarily - and that is what drives the anti-gay and anti-trans stuff, as it's misogyny that drives the "men and women are different" line that they base everything on).  I will certainly not cry when they get to do their final layoff.

The bad thing is that until they take their last breath, they are going to continue hurting people.  ;(
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Charley Bea(EmeraldP)

Jeff Johnston based on your post sounds like a right royal brainwashed git or to borrow from a recently returned Sci-Fi classic a right smeghead. By the way what does CO stand for? I skimmed over abit. Will probably feel stupid shortly after receiving the answer


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Shana A

"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Charley Bea(EmeraldP)

Ah fair enough..*stupid feeling creeping in* buzz off you!!! *stupid feeling creeps away* *replaced with feeling of awkwardness cause I am talking to and telling off my own words* *shifty eyes*  :P


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monica.soto

I tend to think that the world is evolving to a more tolerant place.

These people seem to be are a very vocal minority, some sort of disgruntled hold outs.

Anyhow their posture makes me anxious, as it's based in pseudo scientific/ pseudo religious thinking that can confuse and mislead the uninformed.

I don't know if it's better to silence them though, I prefer to be aware of people who hate openly than those who secretly do it.
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Joelene9

  I'm from Colorado.  The problem is in El Paso county where Colorado Springs and FOTF is.  The rest of CO are more liberal, especially around the Denver-Boulder metroplex.  There were a series of amendments passed in 1992 that restricted same sex unions and changed the tax code.  The fellow behind these was Douglas Bruce, a Colorado Springs car dealer.  The tax code is called TABOR or the TAxpayers Bill Of Rights, an acronym that is a play on one of Colorado's mining pioneers Horace and Baby Doe Tabor.  A version of that law still exist with less restrictions.  Other states have passed a TABOR and some are pondering.
  The Amendment 2, banning same-sex marriages, was passed on the same election and was overturned by SCOTUS. 
  Meanwhile, Douglas Bruce was convicted this past Feb. of tax evasion, money laundering and attempted improper influence of a public official.  180 days in Jail and $49K in fines.  A real pillar of the community.

  Joelene
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ToriJo

Douglas Bruce is definitely pretty low in my book.  And it wouldn't surprise me if he was somehow involved in Amendment 2.  He definitely was involved in TABOR.  But there is a bit more evil to go around.

That said, Amendment 2 didn't take away same sex marriage (earlier, CO had already heard that in courts and there was solid precedent banning same sex marriage).  Amendment 2 was focused on preventing municipalities, particularly home rule municipalities, from enacting anti-discrimination employment, housing, public accommodation, etc, laws.  This was a result of Boulder passing more laws to protect some people (the first laws passed in the 70s, and were related to housing discrimination).  This was seen as sin and the destruction of Colorado by some.  Essentially, Amendment 2 was intended to undo local laws and prevented future local laws that provided any anti-discrimination protection to gays.  It was a statewide attempt to create a right to discriminate.

The official sponsor of Amendment 2 was "Colorado for Family Values."  Their back-room sponsors are a who's who of right wing Christian groups, including Focus, AFA, etc.  Right now a different car dealer runs what is left of it (he's from Denver, FWIW).  Tancredo didn't have anything overtly to do with it, although I'm sure anti-tax and anti-gay fit together well in elections so I imagine there was some spillover.  High turn out in support of either issue would help the other issue.

I remember listening to Focus on the Family broadcasts that explained they didn't want to discriminate, they just didn't want special rights for homosexuals.  You couldn't listen to their programs without hearing that message.  They didn't explicitly say "vote YES on Amendment 2", but it was clear that was the intent.  So they were most definitely a huge factor.  They also helped with the groundwork of getting local churches to mobilize their groups, by explaining to these churches how awful gays supposedly were, and how they would outlaw churches, convert kids to gay, and whatever other evil.

Same sex marriage was actually banned in 1975, due to a Boulder clerk issuing marriage licenses to 6 couples (the constitution at the time didn't prohibit it, nor did any state law).  One of those couples is still married (their marriage has not been challenged - but all the ones challenged were ruled void).  Someone tried to marry his horse in protest (it was denied - the horse was 8 years old, so was not yet old enough to consent).  Colorado was the first state to marry gays (San Francisco has nothing on old Boulder - new Boulder is an entirely different matter).  Sadly they don't allow gays to do so anymore, due to law changes.

In 96 and 97, a ban by the legislature was vetoed by the governor.  In 2000, it passed and was signed by the governor.

In 2006 an initiative (or was it an voters?) was put to voters to allow civil unions.  It failed.  That same year, Amendment 43 banning same-sex marriage passed.

There was a legislative effort in 2011 and 2012 to pass civil unions in the legislature.  It failed both times (it will almost certainly succeed in 2013, due to the Democrats taking control of the Colorado House and a very unpopular move by last term's Republican Speaker of the House).
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amandascute

maybe they should give them selfs the treatment so they can be more human
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Dawn Heart

Quote from: Brooke777 on October 26, 2012, 12:51:17 PM
I will be fighting right by you on this one. They will certainly have a heck of a time taking me.

Add me to your list of people who will not be taken!
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Chaos

Quote from: Slanan on October 31, 2012, 11:41:24 PM
They do acknowledge intersexed people exist.

They believe they are the category of "eunuchs who were born that way" (Matthew 19:11).  And should live single lives, the "difficult path" they have been given by God.  Essentially they should be asexual and aromantic, and stay the gender that they are raised as and/or assigned as at birth.

They also believe that it is such a rare condition to be essentially irrelevant during debates.

As a Christian, I'll say: Hogwash all of it.  But that's what they believe.  You can find some of their writings online about it.

They are also the type that believes "God created them men and women" and that someone isn't in one or the other category is "less than" and a result of the curse.  More hogwash that ignores the nature of God.  But they use this argument against gays, saying that "without both parts, which God made different - both man and woman - a family is incomplete."  It's vital to their theology and hate that no man can be womanly or vise-versa.

I had to comment on this because that is where alot of such believers (mind you-those who create their own word from such things) they take something like you stated *God created them men and woman* and they change this to fit their own fight.for example.in the begining god created adam and eve,now this states what? physically they were in order to reproduce,because yes-there must be a male and female to have children but this does NOT imply that god did NOT create us in that wrong body,that our destiny can not lay within what we *should* have been aka maybe (as i believe for myself) ones destiny can lay within that change.But he also says within that same book that the flesh is NOT who we are but what houses our true self.and that our beings *inside* will be created new.I wont touch on their idea of the *incomplete family* but that is also taken way out of context.i feel anyone who puts a limit on the very god they serve and promotes hatred should never be heard,ever.and in my opinion on the subject,i would die before being taken anywhere.
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AwishForXX

5 and 6 years ago, to my utter shame now, My younger son who is 24 now asked my wife and I to provide him with money to sponsor him to be able to attend a "retreat" in Texas over the Christmas holidays.  He would not tell us what the retreat's focus was, but I have found out since that it was in fact one of these retreat camps that are set up to 'treat' TGs and cure them of the disorder.  He still has not told us himself, I found out purely by the mistake of someone that he had taken into confidence, our pastor.  Now 2 years ago after a lifetime of denial, when I first came to the point of realizing that I myself am GD/TG and was able to admit I have always been so, I had gone to my pastor who let it slip that I already knew someone who had gone to Texas to be cured of that very thing.  Of course I was shocked and appalled, not that my son was the one I knew, but that my pastor had betrayed his confidence and shared identifying information with someone else.  I have not shared another thing of any sort with my pastor since.

Before you start thinking that there is a genetic connection here, I refer to him as my Son but he is my step son, though I've been in his life for more than 1/2 his life.  I fear for him and the shock that he and his wife of three years are in for when his walls collapse.  When I do indeed come out to my wife and our sons, it is not just my own marriage that is at risk but his as well.  (Oh boy, another load of bricks to carry.)

These places are dangerous and the knee jerk transphobia rampant in our churches is of epic proportions.  I fear for those who will be rejected by their church who's job it is to love all comers.
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Dawn Heart

I went to the link in the OP and then followed the links from there. I found the heart of this anti-trans campaign to be a wealthy transwoman who de-transitioned from being "Laura" to once again being "Walt Heyer". The information and rhetoric on his sites are horribly dangerous, false, biased, and I don't even know where to start with all of the wrong statements made by him on his sites.

All said and done, this "Walt" is someone who transitioned and then found that they were still dysphoric, depressed, etc. Laura/Walt did not even attempt to get psychiatric or psychological help to assist with the remaining unhappiness, did not do anything at all to move past surgical regret, and now blames the medical industry along with public morals, etc. for such personal dissatisfaction.

Walt bought into the FOF (Focus on The Family) hate model and is sponsored by "Citizen Link Radio" owned and operated by a subsidiary of Focus on The Family. Isn't that a real surprise??!! (sarcasm)

I am of the scientific thought that TG's who have surgery and then have regret or are still dysphoric and suffer from real and intense problems have more going on than surgery was going to fix anyway. They require prolonged psych supervision, support, and possibly even medication. People who de-transition as I am able to understand from the research I have done so far are only few and far between, but do so before even having surgery most times, and those who de-transition post surgery cannot possibly be as numerous as Walt says because there would be a HUGE medical backlash and it would be news, BIG news!

Me thinks Walt is either making things up, or is in with a group of drama queens / drama llamas who have an agenda.   

 
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gennee

Quote from: SandraJane on November 08, 2012, 05:10:22 PM
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Focus On The Family Rejects Trans Identities As Disordered And Unhealthy

By Zack Ford on Nov 5, 2012 at 5:15 pm


http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/11/05/1142931/focus-on-the-family-rejects-trans-identities-as-disordered-and-unhealthy/?mobile=nc


Jeff Johnston, Focus on the Family


Jeff Johnston is Focus on the Family's resident ex-gay, and he is increasingly being called upon to speak as an expert on various identity issues, though he bears no such expertise. Following up on the group's promotion of ex-transgender ministries, Johnston is back to spread a series of remarkable falsehoods about what it means to be trans. His claims are built around the false understanding that being trans is a disorder, even though the American Psychiatric Association is declassifying it as such next year. From this false premise, Johnston encourages many mistruths and harmful ideas for supporting transgender youth.

First, Johnston claims that sexual orientation and gender identity are the same, which they aren't:

    [Gender Identity Disorder] is a label usually given to children with same-sex attractions, but it can be given to adults.


Question: who made him an authority on transgender people? Probably wouldn't know one if someone was standing next to him. Second question: he's a part of the official media. There's the idea that if you're Not a part of the 'official' media then what someone outside of says is not valid. Well, official media has it wrong about MANY topics. Sad thing is that they are not at the forefront or spokespersons for the nearly 1 million homeless vets, or the 16 million children in America who go to bed hungry, or the millions of senior citizens who are poor and struggling.   
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