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Name Change - Did You Change Your Surname?

Started by MeganRose, May 22, 2007, 07:14:21 AM

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MeganRose

When I decided to make this whole "living as a woman in society" thing a full-time deal, one of the first things that I did was make my name change official. I didn't really think that much about it at the time, I knew exactly what I wanted to change my first name and my middle name to, so I just went ahead and did that.

What I didn't do is change my surname. My reasoning being that my family would be offended if I changed my surname to something completely different - they had enough to deal with at the time and I didn't want to add another bullet point onto the "things we aren't dealing with" list that my family had compiled by that point. No matter, I thought. Something I don't really need to worry about. Doesn't make that much difference, really.

I'm not so sure I made the right choice though. I mean, my parents couldn't have reacted any more offended when I initially told them I was changing my name if I'd have gone with Hitler Antichrist instead of Megan Emily. And they still won't refer to me as Megan anyway, I doubt it would have been much harder if I'd changed my surname as well. It's not like they'd have to use it when speaking to me, at least.

The other reason why I kind of regret not changing my surname is the one that really gets me though. The thing is, most of my friends pre-transition never referred to me by my first name in the first place - something I kind of encouraged because it at least meant I wasn't being referred to by an obviously male name - they would call me by my surname. Kind of a utilitarian, no-imagination-required nickname, I guess. And it went on for so long, that my surname ended up feeling to me more like a first name than my "real" first name ever did. Now when I hear people say it, it kind of feels like it's referring to the old, pre-transition me, not the person I am now. I kind of tend to have the same reaction to it as to when someone messes up with pronouns in regards to me. It feels like something that belongs in the past now.

For those of you who have changed your name to fit your gender identity, I was wondering  - did you change your surname? If so, why? If not, why not? And do you wish you had or hadn't? And if you haven't changed your name yet, but are planning on doing it in the future, what do you think you will do in regards to your surname?

Thanks in advance :)

Megan
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Lydia

I'm definately considering changing my surname. My upbringing was pretty hard and I haven't had any communication with my family (both my parents and all 11 siblings) in ten years as a result of it. I have no emotional attachment to them and my surname only acts to remind my of a past that I want to forget. In a way I want to be reborn as someone new with as few ties to that past as possible.

O by the way how are you Megan? I haven't seen you post for a while. Hope all is OK.

Blessed be Lydia
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Elaine

I didn't change my surname, and in fact, the name I chose (as my first name) was just the feminine form of my old name (Elaine is my middle).

While I didn't have the association of my last name being used as my nickname pre-transition, my new first name is similar enough to my old one that it created that same old-name/old-life association that you have with your last name. First, let me go back to the surname. For me, I never even considered changing it. That's my family, the name I properly belong to, and I felt that changing it would just be lying to myself. That said, I had no reasons that I might want to change it (my family took the transition very well), and after my father past away I was proud to carry on that name. Now, for you, I could see why you would want to change it (the surname). That is a very real association you have there, but remember that everyone will be calling you by your new first name, and the last name won't be used to call you by anymore.

For me, I had originally planned on making Elaine my first name. The name I actually wound up choosing may have seemed obvious (it just adds an 'e' to my old name), but in the past I never really liked the name. As I came closer to transition, it was becoming clear that my family would have an *extremely* tough time calling me Elaine (I have a very close and big family). I started to consider just feminizing my old name, not intending to actually use it, but the more I thought about it, the more I actually liked that name if I was completely subjective (if I didn't think about the association to my old life). Eventually I got to the point that I was able to completely forget about the past associations and look at the name I took as being beautiful, unique, and really truly fitting. On top of it all, I never really felt comfortable choosing a name myself anyway, and there was also the argument that had I been born a girl to begin with, the name my parents would have chosen may very well have been the name I have now, with all the same Latin meaning and all that. Now I love the name, despite its connection to my past. I personally would tend not to recommend changing a surname, but in the end it really does become an issue of personal comfort. Is your last name as it is now something you feel you can ever be comfortable with? For me, it was assurance in my femininity that gave me the confidence to use my new first name with pride, in spite of my birth gender, not because of it.

Also, I should point out that it's probably much more difficult to change your last name without a marraige license or something. The first and middle names are gender-specific and a trans-woman has very good reason to change them, but for the last name you would have to really make the argument that you need a new one and I think the court's main concern would be to make sure your not trying to evade creditors or a loan company etc.

Hope I helped!

EDIT: I just read Lydia's post, and if I were in your situation Lydia I think I would definitely change my surname, too. But if you have any chance of a relationship with your family, than maybe you should keep it? I don't know, I know I'm probably biased because my family has been pretty good.
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cindianna_jones

I changed my last name.  My family had disowned me.  I saw no reason to not reciprocate.  Additionally, I thought that I'd pick a common name that would be easy for anyone to spell so I wouldn't have to constantly spell it out and thus further the opportunity to out myself with my voice. That turned out to not be a problem later on.

It turns out that I did manage to repair my family relations.  And my parents did admit some sorrow that I did not keep my surname.  When I married, I kept my chosen surname rather than take on my husband's. That was a big mistake.  I should have done that.  I've adopted it among friends but legally no.

Cindi
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Tay

My initial reason for a name change was that I wanted to get rid of my last name as it was.  It's a very distinctive last name (only something like 80 people worldwide have it) and my biological father made the mistake of angering several southern states with a breach in flag ettiquete.  Since I am Canadian, going into an international industry, I decided to change my surname (go me!).

This was before I came to terms with my own gender identity.

My given name is Mary Elizabeth Madelyn B------.  It couldn't be more feminine if anyone attempted to give me a girlier one.  There is NO nickname I can make out of that that is gender neutral.

I am now planning on changing it to Tay Phoenix L------.  The reason for Phoenix, btw, is NOT a Harry Potter reference, but because I see this name change as a way for me to rise from the ashes of my totally destroyed childhood.
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Lisbeth

I did not see any reason to change my surname.  If I ever got married again, I might then.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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Kate

You're reading my mind, as just last night I brought this up with my wife. I hadn't considered changing the last name before, and in fact everyone I know of discouraged it because it would "disrespect my family" and "look like you're running from something."

But I was thinking about my father's reaction to me (he's "totally against what you're doing and doesn't want to hear any more about it") and many other things about my childhood and past, and ya know... cutting myself loose from all that baggage is a very, very appealing idea.

I was pondering this while watching "Brothers and Sisters" the other night, and I totally lost it when the girl said something like, "When all else fails, we turn to our family when in need. For without family, we're lost."

Well, I have no family to turn to. My only brother was terribly cruel to me as a child, and my parents... well, my father wrote me off, and my mother is terribly embarassed of me now.

So the more I think about it, the more I want to just start fresh, start over, begin again as Kate and leave that other life behind me once and for all and get on with living my life as it was meant to be... and on my terms.

I'm just not sure if changing the surname makes things more complicated?

The amusing thing though is both my wife and I coincidentally picked the same (fake) surname for use on the net many years ago... so at least I know what we'd be changing it too ;)

~Kate~
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Fer

Are you mental? ;)  No, I didnt.  I just changed my first and middle names but left my surname intact.
The laws of God, the laws of man, He may keep that will and can; Not I. Let God and man decree Laws for themselves and not for me; And if my ways are not as theirs Let them mind their own affairs. - A. E. Housman
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LostInTime

Kept the family name, changed the other two. :)
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Kimberly

No, I have not changed my surname nor do I have any plans of doing so. In part because I have always liked it, and in part because I am very close to my family. I have absolutely zero desire to change my surname; My first and middle must be changed as they are both reminders and both fit for a boy, not me.

*shrug*


Quote from: Fer on May 22, 2007, 01:55:02 PM
Are you mental? ;)
I do not find that humorous in anyway. :|

This is a very touchy subject for some, please keep that in mind.
Thank you.
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Melissa

I kept my surname and just changed my sir name. ;)  I did briefly consider doing it right at the beginning, but my then-wife brought up a good point.  If she was willing to change her last name to mine when we married, why should I change it.  I'm glad with the decision I made.  It's bad enough trying to prove to people that I wasn't always a girl when changing information (yeah, I'm behind).

Melissa
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Lisbeth

Quote from: Melissa on May 22, 2007, 03:08:39 PM
I kept my surname and just changed my sir name. ;) 
You didn't like the idea of being "Sir Melissa?"
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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Sandy

Having just changed my name last week, this is all pretty fresh for me.

I kept my sur name as I saw no reason to change it.  I really didn't want a cutsey name like Candace Cayne.  The name I came up with felt right.

What did go against the grain of the family was that all my parents children had the same first letter.  The first name began with a "B" and represented the name of my father, the middle name began with an "L" and represented the name of my mother.
My parents, now passed, used it as a way to immortalize themselves.

Since I chose a fist name that did not begin with a "B" my siblings were scandalized.  But they got over it.

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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seldom

I am changing my Surname when the time comes.  It is short last name, but everybody mispronounces it, and I honestly do not like the flow of it.  In fact I always kind of hated it.  I will probably replace it with something normal. But I am sick of my last name as it stands.
As far as alienating the family.  They cut off contact with me, and I have no issue with changing my name and not telling them. I don't advocate deep stealth, but honestly at this point, I don't have a strong enough connection to keep the name.

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katia

nope.  my family's name has to remain with me until the day i perish.
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Lisbeth

Quote from: Kassandra on May 22, 2007, 04:20:56 PM
Having just changed my name last week, this is all pretty fresh for me.
How did it go?  And isn't it just a load of fun to have to change all of those records?  After more than two weeks, I'm still only half way through my list.

Since you wanted to know about problems, here is a conversation I had with someone at the college I graduated from:

"We don't have a policy of changing names on student transcripts.  [pause]  Do you concider that to be a problem?"

Well, duh.  I have to call back and ding them on it again.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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ssindysmith

I changed everything, I changed my surname to my BF surname Smith very, very common and hard to pick one, they made a movie bout us LOL :) And Cindy is just such a pretty name not that other names aren't pretty, I'm just a little partial :)
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Sandy

Quote from: Lisbeth on May 23, 2007, 09:17:22 AM
Quote from: Kassandra on May 22, 2007, 04:20:56 PM
Having just changed my name last week, this is all pretty fresh for me.
How did it go?  And isn't it just a load of fun to have to change all of those records?  After more than two weeks, I'm still only half way through my list.

Since you wanted to know about problems, here is a conversation I had with someone at the college I graduated from:

"We don't have a policy of changing names on student transcripts.  [pause]  Do you concider that to be a problem?"

Well, duh.  I have to call back and ding them on it again.
It went very smoothly other than the judge asking if I was changing my name because of sexual orientation.  I said yes, I wasn't about to lecture a judge.  See my blog entry in "Sandy's Transition - My Day I Court" for all the excrutiatingly boring details ;)

Good luck with yours.  I'm just now getting the information to change my name at work.  I also have to get to SSA and get my birth records updated.  And then there is *everything* else!  I knew this was going to be an uphill battle, but I never really appreciated the enormity of it all!

-Sandy (Sisyphus)
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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Hazumu

Kept my surname.  Call me immature, but I think it's cool when they call out 'Mizz Savage'... ;D

-K
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Ms.Behavin

I kept my surname, and just changed my first and middle name to their fem. form.  Now that it's done, I really like my middle name. Charlene much more then my first name.  I use to hate it with a passion.  I just changed my name about 2 weeks ago so it pretty new.  Just went to the bank today to change my checking and savings accounts and the people there were just the nicest to deal with.

I've got to hit the SS office maybe tomorrow and see how that goes.  I'm cheating just a bit as I used a form california had at the DMV without a court order.  Odd that for a name change you must get a court order, but if it's also a gender change, well so far I've had no problems.  I'm taking my new licence, my old FL license, plus ss card and a few other things to the ss office tomorrow and just see how it goes.

Then give the folks at the georga vital records a call and see about the birth certificate.

Beni
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