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Awesome! Introducing the first ever MtF MMA (mixed martial arts) fighter!

Started by Ultimus, March 05, 2013, 11:48:45 PM

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Ultimus

http://prommanow.com/2013/03/05/it-was-bound-to-happen-meet-the-first-known-transgender-mma-fighter/

I am the most die hard mma fan, and I was wondering when this day would come. This is wonderful and will inspire many other transwomen to enter the sport.
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Jayr

This is awesome.

Hopefully they won't take her license too fight away,
I'm sure if her hormone levels are in the right ranges and she's legally on hrt, she should be fine.
But mma is VERY strict with anything concerning hormones, plenty of cis people have been taken out of fights for it.
Even after a doctor had prescribed the hormone legally and it was medically necessary.

Lets cross our fingers.

Here's a word of warning;
If you're going to look up some of her fights on youtube...

TRIGGER WARNING! TRIGGER WARNING!
The comments are very disturbing and disgusting.
I recommend you just watch the video and not even glance at the comments.
TRIGGER WARNING! TRIGGER WARNING!

Anyways
Is there any interview of the girls she's defeated?
I'd be very very interested to know what they think about it.





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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Jayr on March 06, 2013, 12:06:05 AM

TRIGGER WARNING! TRIGGER WARNING!
The comments are very disturbing and disgusting.
I recommend you just watch the video and not even glance at the comments.
TRIGGER WARNING! TRIGGER WARNING!

That's to be expected. Most MMA fans are super macho guys with big egos and small brains. A transwoman is like their anti-Christ.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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DirtyFox

I love it =) MMA is actually something I enjoy with my mother, while my father busies himself elsewhere.
Watching the birds made me feel like taking a journey. The people, the landscapes, everything was imperfect but beautiful.
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calico

I'm not into fighting, but good for her! She should be allowed to continue, also I read somewhere that pound for pound women gain more upper body strength than men when they do gain muscle. IDK where i seen that but I'm pretty sure remebering reading it.
I wish all the haters and bigots could open their mind, but sadly it just isn't going to happen, thats why I hope she makes it because if they do allow her to continue, it will throw it all the more in those racist,bigot, poor escuse for human turd's face's!

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Keaira

I support her. She's on a mailing list I'm on it seems. Anyway, She was pretty much outed.



Anyway, she'd like some support from us though:

I have recently had to come to come out publicly as a post operative transsexual woman. I have been a part of this group for years... I need your support. Can you view this article and share it with your friends. You may soon hear about me in the news. Please show your support for me. Like my fan page on facebook, read the article, and watch the video at the bottom. Thank you so much...
http://www.outsports.com/2013/3/5/4068840/fallon-fox-trans-pro-mma-fighter
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Jamie D

I see no reason why a transitioned person would not be allowed to compete in professional sports.
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Jayr

Keaira:
Thank you for the link!

JamieD:
The problem isn't if she will be allowed to fight or not. MMA is unlike any other sport. The commit will most likely let her fight. That's not the problem. MMA fighters choose who they want to fight, or at least have a say in it. Fighters have to accept a fight. The problem here is Fox might have a bit of trouble finding girls willing to brawl against her. So even if the committee 100% allows her, opponents have every right to refuse a fight for any reason what so ever. An MMA fighter that can't find an opponent is not good news. Hopefully other girls won't dismiss her as a potential opponent.





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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Jayr on March 06, 2013, 03:55:41 AM
Keaira:
Thank you for the link!

JamieD:
The problem isn't if she will be allowed to fight or not. MMA is unlike any other sport. The commit will most likely let her fight. That's not the problem. MMA fighters choose who they want to fight, or at least have a say in it. Fighters have to accept a fight. The problem here is Fox might have a bit of trouble finding girls willing to brawl against her. So even if the committee 100% allows her, opponents have every right to refuse a fight for any reason what so ever. An MMA fighter that can't find an opponent is not good news. Hopefully other girls won't dismiss her as a potential opponent.

A true warrior accepts a challenge whether percieved or not. In any case I find its usually men that are the ones getting butt hurt in these transwomen in sports situations.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Angela???

WOW what a women! Wouldn't like to upset her.

I will have to show a friend of mine that trains MMA for cheap for the local people, $2 a session. Plus the post ladie helps teach(3rd dan Blackbelt).
I think she should be allowed to compete, she is a women after all!

This is something that my family is training in, look out when I come out!
I'm a girl, I always knew!
Now it's time to stop hidding and show the world who I really am!
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Keaira

well, I'm p****ed off!  I swear, the people you come across on Facebook can be mind blowingly ignorant.

https://www.facebook.com/FallonFoxofficial/info
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MaidofOrleans

"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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muuu

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PHXGiRL

Heck yeah good for her!

I was actually just thinking about this last week. I would get in the ring. I've always been a fighter. I haven't been in many fights but the ones I've been in I was always on the winning side. I looked into joining "the lab" here in Phoenix about a year and a half ago when I was a boy.
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JessicaH

I have mixed feelings on this. I have been on HRT for over two years and still have significant muscle and I don't work out. I think it would be incredibly hard for me to find a cis female that could take me in hand to hand. I could hit harder and take a much harder hit. It wouldn't be a fair fight....

I don't know if this sort of thing really helps our cause....
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muuu

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King Malachite

Quote from: girl you look fierce on March 07, 2013, 05:01:46 AM
Sorry I don't think it's fair to pit the average MTF against women.. totally different physical development in most cases, what are ya gonna do?

This

I mean on one hand it's great to see transgender representation in the sport (considering how I love MMA), but in my opinion I don't think it's fair to put an MtF against a cisgendered woman.  I know HRT changes the body....but that would be like Shane Carwin announcing that he (or in this case-she) is transgender, takes HRT for a couple of years and demands to fight against women. That would be an unfair advantage considering bone structure, etc.  There are some things that just can't go away with HRT/surgery/etc.


I'm not knocking Fallon and if the officials say she can fight, then she can.  This is just my opinion
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Nicolette

Quote from: JessicaH on March 07, 2013, 05:25:21 AM
I have mixed feelings on this. I have been on HRT for over two years and still have significant muscle and I don't work out. I think it would be incredibly hard for me to find a cis female that could take me in hand to hand. I could hit harder and take a much harder hit. It wouldn't be a fair fight....

I don't know if this sort of thing really helps our cause....

I'm highly skeptical.

It's a bit like a cis-woman who has been on anabolic steroids since puberty, building muscle and strengthening bone structure and then deciding to go clean in the last couple of years and then competing in the Olympics. There's no way she wouldn't have an unfair advantage.
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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: girl you look fierce on March 07, 2013, 05:01:46 AM
Umm, has that happened? What? Even Caster Semenya got in a whole ton of controversy for being an AIS woman...

Sorry I don't think it's fair to pit the average MTF against women.. totally different physical development in most cases, what are ya gonna do? I would think that's an uncomfortable position to put yourself in as an mtf too...

There is no such thing as fairness in sports. You can try to get close but it's never going to happen. For example two football teams have the same number of players but each player has their own strengths and weaknesses. If sports was suppose to be fair then the scrawny kid wouldn't always be picked last.

Fighters are always interested in proving themselves, if they weren't...well...they'd do something less competitive. If I was a cis woman fighter i'd have no problem fighting a trans woman even if I thought she had an advantage perceived or not because it would be a chance to prove my strength. Since when have cis women been afraid to work hard to prove themselves? What about trans women?
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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