Another question about smoking

[MissHayleyKat]

I understand that smoking while on HRT is incredibly dangerous due to the increased likelyhood of blood clots, but would it be okay/less dangerous to smoke while on HRT if you're making an effort to reduce the chance of blood clots in the first place? Would that balance it out and make it a little safer?
Also, would it be okay to use E-cigarettes, or is it the nicotine that causes blood clots?
I'm only asking this because I will be returning to university in September, and I'll be far more tempted to smoke, so I was just hoping that there would be a way for me to continue smoking.

[kelly_aus]

Just don't do it. Apart from the health risks - and I don't just mean clotting. It also makes you smell, is unattractive and will give your mouth the flavour of an ashtray.. And you don't see people kissing ashtrays..

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

Vaping does not have the tars and carbon monoxide.  Also it does not have the other chemicals in it. 

I have been vaping for almost a month now, and I have not had a cigarette.

[Sarah Louise]

Smoking is just a habit, something to keep your hands busy.  If you can break it now (for any reason) your better off for it in the long run.

Anyway, its Expensive, just think of all the money you can save by not smoking.

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

Smoking is part habit and part addiction.  Nicotine is harder to kick than heroin.  And Sarah is correct, if you can quit it now, you are much better off.  I started when I was 13, and now I am almost 59.

[MissHayleyKat]

I tried vaping for a while before, but then I ran out of cartridges and money, then when I got money coming in again, I just went back to smoking. Now I'm not sure if I should get more cartridges or just buy more E-liquid, or if i should invest in a kit to make my own E-liquids at home. I'm not sure which is cheapest, but from what I've heard, making your own E-liquids is supposed to be cheaper than other methods, but I don't have a clue how to do it, and it's probably far too complicated for me anyway.

[Heather]

Besides the health risks you should really try to quit. I started smoking when I was 14 and quit when I was 30. I can tell you it was the best I have ever done for myself besides starting transitioning. Yeah I could go on and on about cancer and all the other bad things about smoking. But I know you have already heard that before. I just going to say if you do quit you won't regret it for a moment.

[sandrauk]

I buy my ecigs and liquids direct from China. It's so cheap it's not worth mixing. I've been buying from them for a year and they're reliable. If you want I'll pm you the website and whats best to buy.

[MissHayleyKat]

I buy my ecigs and liquids direct from China. It's so cheap it's not worth mixing. I've been buying from them for a year and they're reliable. If you want I'll pm you the website and whats best to buy.

That would be great, I hope the postage isn't high seeing as it's coming all the way from China.

[sandrauk]

pm sent

[Cindy]

Lets put this into perspective.

You want to make the biggest body change that anyone goes through.

You want to be you after hiding for a life.

Smoking will stop this, as many endocrinologists will prevent or strongly suggest that you will not go on HRT if you smoke.

Make the decision.

It isn't that hard to make the decision. Well for me it wasn't

I smoked from age 16-35.

Depends what you want in life. Always your choice.

C

[Catherine Sarah]

Just don't do it. Apart from the health risks - and I don't just mean clotting. It also makes you smell, is unattractive and will give your mouth the flavour of an ashtray.. And you don't see people kissing ashtrays..

YUCK !!!!!

Catherine

[Asfsd4214]

Not to be pedantic... but if people don't kiss ashtrays, how can you know what one tastes like to compare to kissing a smoker?

OP, I can't say for sure that nicotine has NO risk increase of blood clots, but I can say nicotine in isolation is much much safer than smoking tobacco.

Personally I kinda think the 'never smoked' people should stay out of the smoking threads, at least don't preach in them, I mean no offense guys but what would you know? Anyway there's plenty of people like Cindy who're happy to preach and at least know from experience what nicotine addiction is like.

[kelly_aus]

Not to be pedantic... but if people don't kiss ashtrays, how can you know what one tastes like to compare to kissing a smoker?

OP, I can't say for sure that nicotine has NO risk increase of blood clots, but I can say nicotine in isolation is much much safer than smoking tobacco.

Personally I kinda think the 'never smoked' people should stay out of the smoking threads, at least don't preach in them, I mean no offense guys but what would you know? Anyway there's plenty of people like Cindy who're happy to preach and at least know from experience what nicotine addiction is like.

I'm a former smoker. Smoked aged 14 to 34. Quitting was hard, very hard.. And I've fallen off the wagon a few times, but I always get back on it. Quitting amphetamines was easier.

[Asfsd4214]

I'm a former smoker. Smoked aged 14 to 34. Quitting was hard, very hard.. And I've fallen off the wagon a few times, but I always get back on it. Quitting amphetamines was easier.

I'm sorry if you thought I was addressing you specifically. I was speaking generally. Good job on quitting.

[kelly_aus]

I'm sorry if you thought I was addressing you specifically. I was speaking generally. Good job on quitting.

No apologies required.. I realised that my post sounded a bit like a post from someone that never smoked, so I thought I'd add that I was a smoker..

My gyno told me she would not prescribe while I was a smoker - and she didn't care whether it was traditional cigarettes or some other nicotine delivery device..

[Jennygirl]

Smoking is part habit and part addiction.  Nicotine is harder to kick than heroin.  And Sarah is correct, if you can quit it now, you are much better off.  I started when I was 13, and now I am almost 59.

You look so much younger! Holy cow

Also, vape club going on 12 months! I just recently dropped nicotine in the liquids a few weeks ago

What is your favorite flavor? At the moment, mine is Hawaii Sunset by RAWR

[Asfsd4214]

No apologies required.. I realised that my post sounded a bit like a post from someone that never smoked, so I thought I'd add that I was a smoker..

My gyno told me she would not prescribe while I was a smoker - and she didn't care whether it was traditional cigarettes or some other nicotine delivery device..

Sounds like your gyno and I would have some.... disagreements on the subject of personal freedoms and responsibility.

All the more reason I consider doctors little more than pawns for me to use for my own benefit rather than advocates looking out for my health as a team. I won't be on a team who's only life it affects is me unless I am in charge of said team, since I have yet to find a doctor on board with the concept of them not being 'team' leader, I'll just tell them whatever I think they want to hear to get the outcome I want. I wish it weren't that way, but ultimately I care more about myself and my freedom to live my life than I do about some doctors paranoia over their medical license.

And hey, maybe one day that philosophy will burn me and I'll pay for not being more of a team player... but at least when that happens I can say it was my choice. Adults live with their mistakes and choices. Doctors have an annoying habit of treating their patients as if they were children. If I have to live with all the stuff that sucks about being an adult, then I sure as hell won't put up with the stuff that sucks about being a child at the same time. I make my decisions, and if someone stands in my way in matters that are my decision because they're afraid of being held responsible... then I'll take the responsibility out of their hands by deciding what I want them to know or not know, and I sure won't pay them if they don't begin to cooperate or succeed in talking me out of it with reason rather than disrespect.

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[Emily Aster]

Don't give yourself a fallback plan, like vaping, or you'll never actually quit. The fact is that smoking is a habit and there's no such thing as just one cigarette or weening yourself off of them. There's always going to be another "just this once". The only way to stop it is to stop cold using your own willpower. I know people that quit for over 7 years using things like welbutrin and chantix and even became walking advertisements for them to everybody they met. Then one loss of willpower and they're smokers again. Crutches are only useful when you're using them. Once they're gone, it's just as hard as it was without them. If you don't have the willpower to quit without them, you don't have the willpower to quit.

Also, when I looked into why not smoking was so critical with hormones, it looked like it was the nicotine itself that was the issue, so even the smoking cessation aids like gum and patches wouldn't be a good idea. What I did to quit after probably around 100 failed attempts was to focus on the prize. The one dream I've had my entire life that was finally within my reach. Would I rather be a woman or a smoker? The choice was easy although the nicotine put up quite a fight.

[Asfsd4214]

Also, when I looked into why not smoking was so critical with hormones, it looked like it was the nicotine itself that was the issue, so even the smoking cessation aids like gum and patches wouldn't be a good idea.

Could you elaborate further on that?