Quote from: Kimberly on June 01, 2007, 05:37:39 PM
*sigh* I did not call you blind. I said you were turning a blind eye, that is NOT the same thing. I am pretty decent about saying what I mean, an decent about not saying anything else. (I think anyway!). I said you were turning a blind eye because you were ignoring a large section of what life is. Regardless if you wish to see it chickens are alive and sentient. *shrug* Saying that chickens are just for eating is, to me, like saying say cats are without intelligence, etc. To me, what I have found in this life (and ignoring everything else), I know this to be false.
Saying, in essence, that you know what I ignore, "in large sections of what life is", is a judgment call, one that you appear to have made in haste, out-of-context, with again, little or no attention to the tone of a piece, much less having read me elsewhere. The shrugs and sighs are condescending, and I did take exception to that, considering you
appear to be quasi-trolling me, IE: not taking the words in context or looking at tone, which you appear to have done in response to my thoughts on other topics.
I was trolling (or more precisely, watching closely) this topic to see what people say about the ethics of food, and because that, due to an unfortunate living situation, chickens have annoyed me quite a bit of late. I have learned some things; one is that chickens CAN reasonably be thought of as sentient, though I am still personally somewhat skeptical on this point.
Kimberley, have you lived with chickens very often, to know them and their function on a planet so well, or is the sound you are making strictly stemming from a philosophy in the abstract?
I kinda sorta know from chickens lately, and am still having difficulty imagining them doing much besides waiting to be et. Of course they lay unfertilized eggs, which can be et, and fertilized eggs to make more chickens. But these still - ha - feed into the food chain, as-it-were
TMW
Quote from: Pica Pica on May 31, 2007, 10:24:01 AM
A troll is someone who puts comments to try and wind people up and create arguments. And Coventry is the dullest city in England, filled with the dullest people.
Troll, in internet jargon, derives from
trawl, which is what a very bootstrap sort of fisherman does, from place to place. A troll looks for more or less random bits to attack on the www, and then does what you say above.
I am still
watching this topic. That I created the topic tends to indicate something other than a troll. I am (mayhaps doggedly?) trying to get some perspective on an issue I have some interest in,
Situational Ethics.
note:
Sentience has been defined in this topic as 'awareness of one's surroundings' (that might fit as only a partial definition...).
Not every animal or person always fits that bill. IE: does existence connote sentience?
TMW
