Hand size

[michelle666]

Hand size for born males can be dramatically different depending on what kind of work and torture the hands have been submitted to. I was in construction most of my working life and early on was something of a brawler, so aside from the usual square palms they are scarred and now arthritic looking.

There are those who were office professionals whose hands still look almost effeminate and pretty from very little abuse.

We don't get any do-overs, so we need to make the best of other assets to draw onlooker attention away from less than attractive hands and feet.

I've worked in an office for a long time and before that I worked as a caregiver for people with cerebral palsy and autism. My hands look better than my girlfriends, who does manual labor on a farm.

[Paige0000]

Here's my measurements
3.1 width
7.1 length
7.2 circumference

Here's a pick of my hand

[Tatyana]

So, I just measured all my hand measurements using this:


I have girl hands.
3" width, 6.8" circumference, and 7" length.

I'm not sure if this is liable to be trigger-ish, so... feel free to post your measurements. Or not.

About 2.8 and 6.5 for me. 

[vlmitchell]

Don't frequently, but I think it can happen.

Ya'll are confusing hyper-extendable elbows with the 'carry-angle' on the arm. Carry angle is a pretty good indicator of natal sex and is determined by the angle of the upper arm to the lower arm on the outside of the elbow joint. It's also damned hard to determine without a really good instrument and very little arm muscle. GG carry angle is typically about 165º where GM angle is around 173º.

Hyper-extendable elbows are just double jointed elbows and they bend backwards a good bit. They happen in either sex but are more common in females.

[Lexi Belle]

Ya'll are confusing hyper-extendable elbows with the 'carry-angle' on the arm. Carry angle is a pretty good indicator of natal sex and is determined by the angle of the upper arm to the lower arm on the outside of the elbow joint. It's also damned hard to determine without a really good instrument and very little arm muscle. GG carry angle is typically about 165º where GM angle is around 173º.

Hyper-extendable elbows are just double jointed elbows and they bend backwards a good bit. They happen in either sex but are more common in females.

I wasn't.  Hyper extension is significantly different, also determined significantly different and far more noticeable to a naked eye.

[RavenMoon]

Hyper-extendable elbows are just double jointed elbows and they bend backwards a good bit. They happen in either sex but are more common in females.

My mother was very double jointed. She could wrap her legs around her neck.  I was quite a bit more flexible when I was younger, but not as much as she was.

I based the non backwards bending elbow on this:

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Walk_like_a_woman_(How_to)

"Ask a woman to stretch her arm out. It will bend slightly backwards at the elbow. Males can't do this."

But apparently some males can.

And yes, the "carrying angle" of the elbow is normally 5-15 degrees away from the body so your forearms to clear the hips when swinging your arms. And obviously cis females have wider hips than males.

[Violet Bloom]

B: 3.0
L: 7.75
C: 8.0

  I don't know what to make of this.  Going on visual alone my palms are too big and make my hands look large on my skinny arms despite slender fingers.  That's how it looks to me anyway.

[ZoeM]

Carrying angle:

Sorry it's upside down. Not sure what broke there. >_>


I have to say, though, I'm lucky I have this. Otherwise I'd be whacking my hips every step.

[RavenMoon]

It's fascinating how different everyone's body is!
This is my right arm relaxed with the palm facing forward. It clears my body by about an inch. This is something I never noticed before. Maybe I have small hips? Come to think of it, I always did hit my arms on my body!

[Sammy]

OK, this is the dumb day for me. Can anybody please explain this in simple human language? . If I let my arms fall down along my body, relax them and turn the palms forward and then there is a gap between my hips and small fingers - but I can still bend them (fingers) in to touch my hips? What kind of angle I have? Is it the female one (I had never been accused of throwing like a girl, btw )?

[vlmitchell]

Argh... what have I done?!

Okay, peeps. Forget I ever said anything about carry angle. Learn to accept yourself and accept your body as much as you can aside from what you will change via surgery as determined between yourself and your therapist. This stuff can and will drive you batty if you keep obsessing over it.

The reason that everyone got all weird about the digit ratio before is because these topics, while kinda fun for a while, are complete red-herrings. Yes, some of your traits may line up with a GG. A goodly number won't unless you've been on HRT since age 11. Unless you're a licensed orthopedic specialist who's trained in the science of determining sex through physical morphology, you're probably doing the measurements wrong, don't know what anything means, and just kinda wasting your time with these silly little personal observations which, at the root of it, simply seek to find external validation of the nature of being trans and/or having a trans body. I'm sorry to say that I've already been here and done this with everything that I had during the first six months of my transition. Y'know what I found out? I've got some bits that align, some that don't, and none of it matters a whit so long as I know inside my soul who I am and what I'm about.

My sincere apologies to adding fuel to this silly fire.

[ZoeM]

Argh... what have I done?!

Okay, peeps. Forget I ever said anything about carry angle. Learn to accept yourself and accept your body as much as you can aside from what you will change via surgery as determined between yourself and your therapist. This stuff can and will drive you batty if you keep obsessing over it.

The reason that everyone got all weird about the digit ratio before is because these topics, while kinda fun for a while, are complete red-herrings. Yes, some of your traits may line up with a GG. A goodly number won't unless you've been on HRT since age 11. Unless you're a licensed orthopedic specialist who's trained in the science of determining sex through physical morphology, you're probably doing the measurements wrong, don't know what anything means, and just kinda wasting your time with these silly little personal observations which, at the root of it, simply seek to find external validation of the nature of being trans and/or having a trans body. I'm sorry to say that I've already been here and done this with everything that I had during the first six months of my transition. Y'know what I found out? I've got some bits that align, some that don't, and none of it matters a whit so long as I know inside my soul who I am and what I'm about.

My sincere apologies to adding fuel to this silly fire.

I think most of us are just comparing things in good fun. I know I am at least.

[generalchaos34]

Well I know for a fact i have teeny tiny hands, to the point where people used to make fun of me for it. I kinda feel like that guy with the tiny hands from that Burger King Commercial. Although the fingers are not slim. However i feel this is a boon for when i finally fully transition, and all those times i was made fun of will let me become what I want to be.

[Sammy]

Argh... what have I done?!

Okay, peeps. Forget I ever said anything about carry angle. Learn to accept yourself and accept your body as much as you can aside from what you will change via surgery as determined between yourself and your therapist. This stuff can and will drive you batty if you keep obsessing over it.

The reason that everyone got all weird about the digit ratio before is because these topics, while kinda fun for a while, are complete red-herrings. Yes, some of your traits may line up with a GG. A goodly number won't unless you've been on HRT since age 11. Unless you're a licensed orthopedic specialist who's trained in the science of determining sex through physical morphology, you're probably doing the measurements wrong, don't know what anything means, and just kinda wasting your time with these silly little personal observations which, at the root of it, simply seek to find external validation of the nature of being trans and/or having a trans body. I'm sorry to say that I've already been here and done this with everything that I had during the first six months of my transition. Y'know what I found out? I've got some bits that align, some that don't, and none of it matters a whit so long as I know inside my soul who I am and what I'm about.

My sincere apologies to adding fuel to this silly fire.

Just answer me! I MUST KNOW!

Your post made me laugh

[RavenMoon]

Y'know what I found out? I've got some bits that align, some that don't, and none of it matters a whit so long as I know inside my soul who I am and what I'm about.

I think this is true of everyone, and I thought it was kind of fun.