Yeson voice feminization surgery

[Eveline]

I remember how excited I was when Jennygirl started this thread. Compared to all the other scary procedures I read about, this one seemed unbelievably safe and effective.

Well it's two years later and I finally get to go!   

I'm planning to be at Yeson Voice Center during the 3rd and 4th weeks of April. Anybody else going to be there?

BTW, thanks to everyone who has posted in this tread - it's a great testament to Dr. Kim's work...

[ElleA]

Good luck newgrrrl I'm heading to South Korea tomorrow for the next 12 days. It will be freezing while I'm there so hoping it will be a little warmer for you when your there

[Eveline]

Thanks, ElleA - dress warm, and no coughing!

[ElleA]

Will do, hehe. My partner is coming with me and is great at looking after me post op so I am sure I will do fine.

[ElleA]

Ugh 5am start for flights. Hopefully there are some good movies onboard. I will try to post a video in the next day or so of my pre-op voice for comparison.

[divineintervention]

Can someone post a video with their new voice singing ?

[Damara]

Can someone post a video with their new voice singing ?

I'm very interested in this as well! Singing is majorly important to me, and although I'm 96% sure I'm getting this procedure in the future no matter what, I'd definitely like to hear some serious post op attempts attempts at singing. 

[nossolar]

Dear Girls

I need your help! I am a pre op ts-girl, i leave in Europe! LAst wednesday i just had my vocal folds shortering surgery! Not in Yason! In my country! Doktor said everything is fine! i just got home today and before i left a hospital the doktor asked me to say a world! I did and i shocked! My voice was so weak, so whisppering and hoarse! i tried it two more time and still so ad voice! Asolutly not higher peach! at all! I followed all the orders from my doktor, ut he is a proffesor, so usy dont have to much time for me, and i am a shy persone! I read a lot of skary staff aout voice surgeries! so now i am skared, i skared to loose my voice, and i dont know when will e my voice became more feminime! now actually i dont have any voice, seems i lost it! i tried to not cough, siense the surgery but its not really possible! My docktor gaved me a medicine agains the cough ut he said is not really affect  the result!
Now i am at home and i just hope to getting better, i dont know how long i have to e silence and when will came back any voice!
please help me girls

[anjaq]

Hello, nossolar

May I ask you where in Europe did you get your voice surgery and who the surgeon was? Do you happen to know what technique he was using?

Generally I think it is a bad idea to talk or cough that early after the surgery - How long was it between the surgery and the doctor asking you to speak? But some words of calming: I think also for people at Yeson, it takes some weeks for the voice to be not hoarse anymore, to be a bit stronger and to increase in pitch. At the beginning, all will be swollen and that means the vocal chords thicken and make a lower pitch, the scars are not healed yet, so the voice is hoarse and the muscles are weakened, so is the voice, if you get botox, the muscles are even paralyzed. At Yeson, people are advised not to speak for 2 weeks, so few people really know what happens if you really would try earlier, and those that did by accident said they made no sound at all. So it is perfectly normal to go out of the surgery with a weak, hoarse and lower pitched voice, but after the rest period all of this gradually changes usually.

[nossolar]

Hi

The surgery was in midde Europe! He is a proffesor so he is running a full earl, nose , throat  clinic! He asked me to say only one world just to try the voice! He told me: my voice  is even higher but i didnt felt that! He made the vocal folds shorter and he not use laser! He also told me i should not speak for two weeks at least!The prolem is : he is extramly busy and dont have time for my questions!
I am just skared now, i think it should have any  feeling about my voice going to be higher! I didnt get botox
So now i just waitig, dont say a world, drink a lot of tea and take vitamins!
thank you for the nice worlds

[anjaq]

That sounds ok to me - that one word wont do any damage, I think and if you keep silent now for two weeks it should all improve. But dont expect a full and feminine voice after 2 weeks - it may be still low from swelling, it will be weak and it may be hoarse. I know two clinics here in Germany who do this type of surgery and in one of them apparently patients were not told to keep the silence, so they tried to speak as soon as they could and wrote that there was no sound coming at all or only extremely hoarse and weak voices for those 2 weeks - but I think to even try is not really helping, so I think it is better to just keep the silence. And remember, also for Dr Kim it was said that in some cases it takes wekks, months and up to a year to gain a higher pitch, so dont be impatient, give yourself rest and wait and drink tea

P.S.: You dont want to mention the city or clinic this was perfomed in?

[nossolar]

HI
Yes thats the best for me, just be patient and wait! i taking a lot of vitamine c, pills for cough, calcium, and antibiotic! I didnt got any botox! I dont know why is good that? i not mationed the city and my professor name still i dont know the results! He is running for a ear, nose, throat clinic and this is just one of the lot and different kind of surgeries he made! He is not a speacialist of voice feminization, he just make for me the vocal fords shortening!  But he is a good doktor, famous and busy! You feel when you meet with a good docktor, you feel he is demanding of his job!I am not in Germany,but not really far, my sister leaving in Hanover, and i was thinikg to move there too, i like that country!

[anjaq]

I think the botox is not mandatory. If you did not get it, I think it is not an issue, but you should definitely stick to the rest period and calm down - if you know the Prof is doing good work, I think he will know how to not take away your voice but improve it.

[ImagineKate]

I'm getting ready to schedule my surgery and book a flight.

What airport should I fly into? I have never been to Korea.

I normally fly Delta or a partner airline as I have medallion status and collect the miles but I can also fly American with a corp discount.

Decisions, decisions.

It also kinda sucks  that I won't be doing my name change until I get back, don't want to risk it with passport drama.

[voodle]

I went to Incheon and got a train into the city which was actually really cheap. There's also airport shuttle buses that go from all over the city so, Incheon is the nice airport to go to.

[voodle]

And I have finally worked up the courage to post a video of me speaking, behold, a sub-par voice surgery result!


I have no idea what to do really, I still don't like how my voice sounds, but it's sort of good enough, but I don't think it's good enough and it still hits low pitches far too easily.

the result of this stupid surgery and my stupid screwed up ffs result are really getting me down lately - I wish I could have surgery like normal people and just have a good result afterwards but no, everything has to go wrong.

[ImagineKate]

And I have finally worked up the courage to post a video of me speaking, behold, a sub-par voice surgery result!


I have no idea what to do really, I still don't like how my voice sounds, but it's sort of good enough, but I don't think it's good enough and it still hits low pitches far too easily.

the result of this stupid surgery and my stupid screwed up ffs result are really getting me down lately - I wish I could have surgery like normal people and just have a good result afterwards but no, everything has to go wrong.

Who did this? Yeson or someone else?

Ok nevermind it is yeson.

However maybe I'm not listening properly but your "old voice" doesn't really sound different from the trained one. It sounds good. Maybe I ought to listen closer.

[ReDucks]

Voodle, I think you sound and look wonderful.  You seem to be a bit prone to getting down on yourself, in this case, I don't think you have a reason to.  I hope you will find some self love and acceptance to help you get over this.  Count me as someone who would be pleased with either your old voice (and over the moon for your new one) or your FFS results.  You look and sound totally feminine and female

[KimSails]

Voodle, I think you sound and look wonderful.  You seem to be a bit prone to getting down on yourself, in this case, I don't think you have a reason to.  I hope you will find some self love and acceptance to help you get over this.  Count me as someone who would be pleased with either your old voice (and over the moon for your new one) or your FFS results.  You look and sound totally feminine and female

I have to agree.  I think you look and sound like a cis-female. no question.  My wife overheard your voice and said the same thing. 

Kim

[Rachelicious]

I have no idea what to do really, I still don't like how my voice sounds, but it's sort of good enough, but I don't think it's good enough and it still hits low pitches far too easily.

So you're complaining, specifically, that after the doctor's pills ran out, you ran into vocal issues? Has anyone else here experienced something similar?

Also, you keep referring to lots of effort, but mention that the coughs etc. are feminized. How much are do you really have to work this vs just use your voice and appropriate resonance?

Obviously there's practice in pitch flexability, that's a given. But are you really having to cram your voice into the upper register? It doesn't sound like it, if so. You're using parts of a range far above what a guy would have.