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When you look at yourself in the mirror...

Started by BearGuy, April 25, 2013, 02:54:47 AM

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BearGuy

Have you ever thought that you look 50/50? Male and female at the same time? Not neither, but both.
I'm talking about both pre-T and T guys, especially T guys who have experienced changes already.

When I look in the mirror I see a complete mixture of both genders, shockingly 50/50 without clothes. With clothes, probably 90% male. Of course I don't like it, and only waiting for more changes to happen. My upper body is masculine, while my lower body remains feminine.
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Devin87

I definitely feel like that-- same as you-- about 50/50 unclothed (maybe more female...) and 90% male clothed.  It's hard to feel male looking at myself in the mirror without clothes.  I mean, I'm more muscular and broad-shouldered than your average afab person and much hairier, but it's hard to ignore the moobs and curves and crap...
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DriftingCrow

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Nero

Only one part of me looks female without my clothes. So, I'd say it's about 90% male, 10% female. But no, I don't see any vestiges of female. I had top surgery a few weeks into T, so I never got the half and half look.
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Simon

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I see 50/50 when I get out of the shower. With clothes on I see 90% male. I think the other 10% is mainly just insecurities in my head. The thing that worries me is after I have top surgery next year (already had hysto) the "final frontier" will be bottom. Right now bottom is a "want" but not really in the dysphoria region. From what I've heard a lot of post top guys is after that's done all of the focus goes down there.

On the bright side my gf did mention at lunch today that she is going to buy me a penis once she gets out of school (as she so eloquently put it),lol. She's already paying for most of my top. Yeah, I'm very lucky when it comes to that. I think after she seen me break down one good time in the hospital after a my hysto she finally understood dysphoria. I couldn't wear a binder during that surgery and afterwards I was up asap so I could get a binder on. I really broke down over it...and I'm in no way an emotional person. Dysphoria is rough.

Some days I wonder if I'll ever feel complete. If after everything is done if I'll still question myself or feel out of place in the world. Only one way to find out and that's to keep pressing forward.
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tvc15

Yeah, it's only very recently that I'm beginning to see male more than female or andro in the mirror. It's just a personal thing because I pass all the time, and I did even before starting T. I'm just really harsh on myself sometimes.


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Sly

I don't know about percentages, but before I started T when I looked in the mirror I felt like a prepubescent dude who was really deformed.  I didn't really recognize my body as female, even though I knew it was, I just felt like there was something really weird about the way I looked.  Being on T has helped that a lot, but I've still got some weird bits to deal with.

Jared

I hated looking into the mirror pre-T. I still never look into a big one that shows full body.
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spacerace

Strangely, once I came to terms with being transgender, it seemed like my face started coming into focus more when I looked in the mirror. I didn't see 100% male, of course, but it was like I could see the guy I was meant to be, and the unanswered question I always read on my own face finally had an answer. It was a moment where everything clicked into perspective.
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Sebb

Quote from: tvc15 on April 25, 2013, 02:19:37 PM
Yeah, it's only very recently that I'm beginning to see male more than female or andro in the mirror. It's just a personal thing because I pass all the time, and I did even before starting T. I'm just really harsh on myself sometimes.

I had the same experience.

That said, I generally see myself more male. The only thing that's throwing me off is my chest. But as soon as that's gone, I'm pretty sure I'll see myself without judging so harshly, even undressed.
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AdamMLP

I'm pre-T and I mostly see myself as male, even when looking into the mirror.  I came a lot more comfortable with my body once I knew what was wrong with it, and what I didn't like.  The only reason I can think of that was that I understood that I was male, and can focus on the more masculine parts of it instead of trying to work out why I felt fat etc.  My perception of my body has shifted since understanding that I was male because I'm projecting the male image on top of it.

However, I don't use full body mirrors when I'm not clothed, and being short has an advantage for me now, because in the bathroom mirror I can only see my shoulders and head, which are my most masculine parts.  When I was on holiday and there was a much lower mirror (it came right down to the sink) I was extremely dysphoric the whole time, I had no binder, and I could see my chest and curves in all their glory.

Photoshopping a picture of me topless into how it should be made me dysphoric as well, because I'd never really realised how curvy I actually am, but it gives me a goal to work towards, and I force myself to see that when I'm in the mirror instead.  Understanding my body issues and forcing myself to focus on the parts I like, mostly my shoulders, makes me feel a lot better.  And I'm no longer expecting to see, or trying to see, a female there.
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DriftingCrow

Quote from: LearnedHand on April 25, 2013, 10:06:00 AM
I see 100% female all the time

Upon further reflection, "100% female" isn't an accurate. If I see myself unclothed, I always think my moobs look like two giant alien eyeballs.
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CursedFireDean

being Pre-T, the way the fat distributes on me, all I can see is female :/ if I just stick to my face I can see male, but when I get out of the shower and walk by the mirror, there's too much female there :/





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Adam (birkin)

I'm a year on T...pass most of the time, but I often see female lately, probably because of crappy self-esteem. But that said, when I catch a glimpse of myself or a photo of myself unexpectedly, I see a guy and then I'm like "omg yes that's me."
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Data Lizard

It depends what I'm wearing. I'm Pre-T and don't own many men's clothes, so I end up wearing skinny jeans and tight shirts whenever they're being washed (not in public, I think I'll faint if I wore them in public now). When I'm wearing guys clothes I see about 80% male. It might be higher if there wasn't so many mirrors in the house, so I see myself as female too much to not have the doubts.
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Natkat

I generally see a guy but if I have all of my hair showed back my face shows a very femenine struckture which I kinda see as femenine/gender neutral.
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Edge

I don't know. Every once in awhile, I see a guy there, but most of the time I think I just look weird.
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Darrin Scott

I still see female most of the time when I look in the mirror. It's hard. I'm over a year on T, but pre op. I tend not to look at my chest too much.





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BearGuy

without clothes: my chest is definitely not female, but it looks just like I have gynecomastia yet at a average male body fat % and it looks weird. I can go shirtless, but for a short time so I wouldnt get any questioning or weird looks. my chest very broad as well as my shoulders because I lift. my hips are neither feminine nor masculine. my stomach is hairy like a guy's now. my butt...extremely feminine yet hairy now lol. kind of big, NOT a male one yet (without clothes at least). thighs feminine; calves absolutely masculine.

everything is ambiguous pretty much. everything shares both male and female characteristics, and neither overpowers. clothes on, the only thing that stands out is my butt which I manage to hide with bigger shirts covering it but I think I just pay attention to it too much.

I also recently got told my hands are very small for a man's. yep, so are my wrists, and I always get injuries from lifting on my arms and wrists.
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tvc15

Quote from: BearGuy on April 26, 2013, 03:57:34 PM
I also recently got told my hands are very small for a man's.

Someone at work said this to me and I came back with, "Yeah, but these hands have done things to girls you've only ever dreamed of." It's good to have a comeback in mind for things like that I guess, but that was entirely off-the-cuff and I'm pretty proud of it haha


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