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Started by jossef-ftm, April 29, 2013, 07:48:50 AM

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justchillin

Well take it from a cis male. What you lack in height you make up in personality and the way you carry yourself. I know so many guys under the 5'10" area who still command a lot of respect when they enter a room.

I don't know if that's a picture of you or not but if it is, just enjoy the fact that your absolutely handsome.
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Sammy

5"8' is average male height and not short. Stop feeding Your own insecurities and act as a man :) (I know, this coming from MtF is ironic, but I had to say this). Unluckily, I was born as male and I am 5"8' (176 cm) and I live in a Northern country. Even here, it is pretty average height for man and somewhere in the higher ranges for women. So You are not short ;).
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Nicolette

Quote from: Sammy on April 30, 2013, 03:25:11 AM
5"8' is average male height and not short. Stop feeding Your own insecurities and act as a man :) (I know, this coming from MtF is ironic, but I had to say this). Unluckily, I was born as male and I am 5"8' (176 cm) and I live in a Northern country. Even here, it is pretty average height for man and somewhere in the higher ranges for women. So You are not short ;).

Can you calculate your grocery bill?  ;D

5'8" = 68 inches.  (5' * 12) + 8" = 68

68 * 2.54cm =  172.7 cm.

Therefore 5'8" = 172.7 cm

What you're doing wrong is multiplying the floating point number 5.8 by 12" and getting 69.6" (176.8cm). 5.8 feet is not 5'8". 5.67 feet is 5'8".
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Sammy

I cant do complicated maths, I am a girl :P ! So I just use the online conversion tools :). Besides, if 6ft is 182 cm, then 5"8' is 4 inches less, which would be 4 x 2.5 and ... oh.

OK, but this means that the OP, who stated that he is 177cm now - he is not at 5"8' range, but is actually 5"9 -10ish' then!
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Nicolette

Quote from: Sammy on April 30, 2013, 03:58:14 AM
I cant do complicated maths, I am a girl :P ! So I just use the online conversion tools :). Besides, if 6ft is 182 cm, then 5"8' is 4 inches less, which would be 4 x 2.5 and ... oh.

OK, but this means that the OP is not 5"8' (177cm), but is actually 5"9 -10ish' then!

Exactly.
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jossef-ftm

thank you for the replies
Sometimes, it's hard to find words to tell you how much you mean to me. A lot of times, I don't say anything at all. But I hope someday, you'll understand, having you is what I live for...(I Love you my Queen )
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Saison Marguerite

I suppose many people have already said things along this line but I will add that most of the men (cis gender) who I dated were around your height. There is nothing to worry about.
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jossef-ftm

Sometimes, it's hard to find words to tell you how much you mean to me. A lot of times, I don't say anything at all. But I hope someday, you'll understand, having you is what I live for...(I Love you my Queen )
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Arch

If you just happen to live in an area where all the guys are unusually tall, I can see that this would be disturbing.

My height doesn't bother me anymore, although it did at first. I'm not all THAT short--about 5'7"--but most guys have a few inches on me. However, back when I was worried about my height, I noticed that I'm taller than about 10% of the guys in my gay group. So I would focus on the fact that I'm taller than several guys there. Is there nobody shorter than you?

Now I can actually make jokes about it...my students think it's funny. I guess having a sense of humor (and a reasonably good beard) can help in a lot of situations.
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Jamie D

Though the average height for a natal male varies from country to country, and from race to race, that worldwide average is 172 cm, or 5 ft 7.7 inches (2010 data).  There are many determinant factors, such as nutrition, genetics, etc.

Here is a picture taken at the time of World War I, showing soldiers from various nations.  The British and American soldiers are on the left side of the picture, respectively.

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Joliy

I think it's all about psychological perception. When I was much younger and didn't think about transitioning as a possible option at all (trying to live the male role), I've seen all the larger guys running around. I thought (having a height of 174 cm): uuh ... it's soo unfair that everybody is bigger than me.

Nowadays, I see that all the females (and even the male ones (!)) are shorter than me. ... it's soo unfair that everybody is smaller than me ! ... lol
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Bastian

I'm your height Jossef, 5'8. I have a friend whose 5'6-5'7 and he's a very manly guy and when he talks everyone pays attention. Why? Because he knows his stuff, because he's assertive and because he's polite. I've got another 'friend' whose 6'3, he's arrogant, racists and over-all an ->-bleeped-<-. When he talks, no one listens. He demands no attention with his height. The point? The short guy is far more masculine and demands far more respect than the tall guy beecause his personality is superior, not because of his height.

So don't worry about your height, really! Don't worry! No one actually cares. So long as you can actually have a smart conversation, have a good personality and are over-all a good and respectful person, no one gives a rats bum how tall you are!

Us short guys are better at different things when it comes to physical limitations. I'll give you a non-human example. When I'm riding a horse, I know a lot about that horse right away from how tall he is. A short horse is fast on his feet, he can change his direction at a moments notice and be skippy about it. A large horse is going to be more powerful, he's going to carry himself differently, he won't be as fast in his rollbacks (for the most part) and he's certainly not going to be able to get low to that cow. But he's going to have a bigger stride and therefore he's going to be faster (ignoring superstars like Seabiscuit, there are always animals that exceed the general expectations).

So, you may not be able to match a larger males physical strength but you do have the opportunity to either out run them, or be faster on the offensive. The different between a bruiser build and a runner build.

So don't worry about your height, develop a good personality, don't argue about stuff you don't know anything about and be polite! Personality is always more important than physical characteristics.
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heartlesstruths

Quote from: jossef-ftm on April 29, 2013, 09:06:14 AM
Mr.x thank you for the reply but the problem is i just can't accept that i mean even sometimes i try to not compare my self with bio guys cause its not fair i found that even some womens look taller than me cause you know almost all womens wear heels that just make me angry and hate my self anyway thnx for the reply bro..

I was closer to 5'6" before T.. according to docs but everyone I spoke to insisted that's impossible. They thought I was taller. I've been on T for over 2 years and I think I may have gotten slightly taller, maybe because it's kind of forced me to work on my posture (I'm not sure how to explain it, I often feel like my torso will collapse on itself if I'm slouched for too long lol.. might have to do with connective tissue changes or something?)

The high heels thing is really annoying, but really only bothers me if it's someone I'm interested in. :P But I think a lot of guys have this problem anyway because if 5'8-9" is the average male height (usually, in western countries at least) and women who are already about the same height or slightly shorter are wearing heels, it's bound to happen at some point in life.. haha.
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noteldip

Yeah, girls wearing heels is occasionally annoying... but I'm 5'2'' (157cm) and I know at least four girls that are already significantly taller than me, and often wear heels on top of that, so sometimes I'll be talking to a few of them at once and just feel rather small  ::)

But honestly, it really doesn't bother me all that much. Often my response to things like that is just to laugh about it. I just think that since there's not much I can do about my height, I might as well just look at it as just something funny about me.

Finding people shorter than you is nice, too. I've been friends with someone for years that's an inch shorter than me, and I grew taller than my mom. On that note, OP, if it makes you feel any better, you're taller than my dad, and some other guys I know. If it's something you're not going to be able to change, you might as well try to look at the bright side, or take pride in other good things about yourself, like some other people have suggested.
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ZombieDog

I used to be really insecure about this myself but be aware while you're out doing mundane things.  I started to realize that there were lots of men my height or shorter(I'm 5'4").

Once you get into the swing of being yourself no one will question you, especially not based on your height.
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j17

I'm only 5'4 but I am actually taller than a few cis guys that I work with. You really shouldn't be to concerned about your height, you definitely are not that short. I also have the same problem that you do with looking small even after gaining muscle. I have gained about 15 pounds this year, but I still look so small and scrawny compared to most other guys.
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assorted_human

I'm 5'4" and it's always made me feel vulnerable...even around women. I can take the short jokes and laugh at myself, but the things is I'm  in an almost constant ready for a fight that I "know" I'll lose for one reason or another. For the most part though it's because I'm so short and unintimidating so I carry a knife (shrugs). Never had to use it but having it calms me down. Thing is that I don't think I'd feel that way if I were 5'8" or 9". I've hung out with plenty of guys that height.
But hey you win some you lose some. I've gone on a lot of adventures where I was the prime candidate to go into the tiniest space. Gives being short and tiny that small advantage. Still is the only good thing I've found about it though.
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LocustToybox

To be entirely honest, height is not the biggest factor in passing. Yes, being tall helps, but being short isn't that bad. Lots of cis-guys are short. I am 5'3 (I'm still growing), and I know tons of cis-guys that are shorter than me. Shortness isn't something to be happy about, but it also isn't something to be depressed about. Remember, being short never stopped Napolean from controlling France, it shouldn't stop you from your aspirations, endeavors, and happiness.
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Zayden

Height, in my experience, hasn't hindered passing at all.  I'm not even 5ft and I'm known as the short boy.  I hope that helps some people struggling with their height.
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D0LL

I'm 5'4" (and maybe 1/4 to 1/2"). As a female, I feel insignificant, because shorter females are cuter and curvier. If I were to try to pass as male, I would also feel insignificant at such a height, being so short.
So I'm kinda effed either route I chose to take.

However, I've dated a guy shorter than me, who was actually pretty buff and masculine, so if you've got enough of the goods, height won't hold you back. ;P
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