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Voice still not lowering much/still cracking

Started by Kyle_S, May 15, 2013, 07:26:12 PM

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Kyle_S

Yeah....so I'm almost 7 months on T, and my voice did nothing for the first like 4 months. It has been cracking when I switch back to my actual voice (I lower my voice on purpose for most interactions) for the past 3 or so months and only drops in small intervals. Anyone else go through this? I was on a low low low dose for the first 2 months (1 shot/month), but still...
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Simon

I'm five months and still cracking but there is a noticeable difference between now and when I first started. Did you record your voice pre T and can compare it to now? I know if I hadn't I probably wouldn't have noticed much of a difference between now and then since it's gradual.
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Adam (birkin)

Mine didn't drop significantly until about 10 months in.
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Farm Boy

I'm almost 8 months, and my voice hasn't changed at all.  I recorded it before to compare it, too.  My doctor has kept me at a low dose and raised it very slowly, so I'm pretty sure that's why.  In any case, you're not alone.
Started T - Sept. 19, 2012
Top surgery - Jan. 16, 2017
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Simon

Quote from: Farm Boy on May 17, 2013, 12:20:09 AM
I'm almost 8 months, and my voice hasn't changed at all.  I recorded it before to compare it, too.  My doctor has kept me at a low dose and raised it very slowly, so I'm pretty sure that's why.  In any case, you're not alone.

Your case is a rare one where your doctor has really done a huge disservice to you. Have you dropped her yet?
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Bastian

Welcome to the club brother. My voice cracked about 5 months into T, and it only did so like twice (cracking that is). My voice has definetly dropped, but not much. I can speak in a male register, but over-all I sound fairly androgyounes. How people 'determine' my gender has more to do with me standing there infront of them OR talking 'male'. What I mean by that is making a conscious (sometimes not counsious though) effort to speak a bit slower, to keep my voice natural (not high and not low) and end my sentances by dropping off, instead of pitching up. (females tend to end their sentances with an incline, like they are asking a question, men simply don't.)

So as on individual whose been on T for, oh god 11 months and is still not got a 'deep and smooth' voice let me shed some light on your situation!

You don't HAVE to sound like Sean Connery. You don't have to have the most deep, dark sexy voice heard in all the lands that makes women's ovaries quiver. Because the simple fact is, not a lot of men sound like that! That's what we envision and idolize them to sound like, but if you go talk to your dark, focus on his voice. Is he really deep? My dad certainty isn't. Gene's have a lot of say in how you end up sounding as well, so naturally I sound more like my dad.

But I did find this article a few months back and man has it helped me get over the dysphoria I was feeling over my voice!

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/11/13/masculine-voice/

He explains the "mmmm" test. Close your mouth right now and go 'mmmmmm'. Feel the vibrations in your lips? Your currently 'speaking' in your natural pitch. When I do this I 'mmm' deeper then how I speak, so I know that, from years of female conditioning, I speak in a higher frequency then what is actually natural for me. What's this mean? I've actually got a decently deep, male voice. I just have a tendency to pitch when I speak. Guess what? It's probably the same for you!

Read that article, and then start really focusing on getting that vibration in your lips when you speak. You should find you actually have a fairly nice, male pitch, it's just hiding under layers of female conditioning. Unfortunately for those of us not blessed with the deep smooth jazz voice right after getting on T, we have to work a bit harder for our voices, but it doesn't mean your going to be tuck sounding like a female for the rest of your life.

I was so worried I'd never have a male voice, but after being enlightened by that blog posting and focusing on finding my natural pitch I've noticed a difference, especially when I accidentally recorded myself speaking in a video! I had to do a double take and replay the recording just to figure it out it was me! So even if you can't notice/hear it, it might still be there.

The main problem with us trying to figure out if our own voices have dropped is that we always hear ourselves talk and it's from the first person perspective, so it even sounds different. We have lived with the changes happening in our voice, so naturally we can't really hear any difference at all! It's the same with friends, they may notice a slight change but if you see them a lot, chances are they have been conditioned to not really notice. Best thing to do is to get feedback from someone who has never heard you speak, or only heard you speak before you were on T. The difference can be very encouraging. Do you happen to have a home video from before you were on T where you spoke? If so, record yourself now saying the same thing (don't try to mimic though!) and then listen to the two recordings. Notice any difference?

And then of course, if you still aren't seeing any differences, don't despair, seven months isn't that long, things can't still change. I didn't see facial hair till I was on for 7 months! Our bodies aren't all programmed the same, your body may have a different agenda, it might not be 'working' on your voice right now. So chin up, don't worry. Focus on speaking in your natural pitch and focus on those subtle NON-verbal communications!

Cheers

Just a quick edit in regards to Simon's comment: I would argue that's not really the best answer. My doc put me on a very, very low dose and my T levels were through the roof (if the standard for men is 20-29, I was at 39) and I STILL didn't experience any real changes in my voice. It has more to do with genetics  and less to do with having a 'uber high dose' IMHO.
Started T in July 2012
Had Top Surgery on May 23rd, 2013

Where the wild things are...
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Simon

Quote from: Bastian on May 17, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
Just a quick edit in regards to Simon's comment: I would argue that's not really the best answer. My doc put me on a very, very low dose and my T levels were through the roof (if the standard for men is 20-29, I was at 39) and I STILL didn't experience any real changes in my voice. It has more to do with genetics  and less to do with having a 'uber high dose' IMHO.

Just to clarify, the reason why I asked if he has switched docs yet is because he has made topics in the past in regards to his doc and how uncaring she has been towards his care, that's all.
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Bastian

Started T in July 2012
Had Top Surgery on May 23rd, 2013

Where the wild things are...
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Farm Boy

Quote from: Simon on May 17, 2013, 12:22:06 AM
Your case is a rare one where your doctor has really done a huge disservice to you. Have you dropped her yet?

I'm in the process.  I got hung up having to put in a request to my insurance to go somewhere else, so my appointment with the new people got pushed back.

OP: Bastian is right about genetics, too.  There are plenty of guys that don't have very deep voices.  If your male relatives have higher voices it could be that you will as well.  But at just 5 months on a non-super low dose, you still have plenty of time for things to change.
Started T - Sept. 19, 2012
Top surgery - Jan. 16, 2017
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Tossu-sama

My voice didn't do much for the first three months, I just kinda sounded like a dying donkey and I lost all the high notes from my voice. But then I switched from gel to injections and I started getting actual cracking and lowering to my voice.

Now I'm five months and one week on T and it's still not much different... Or it could be, I don't know since I haven't recorded my voice (stupid me). But I can definetly use much lower voice when talking, too bad this happens only when I'm around people I'm very familiar with, in other words my family and fiancé. Otherwise, I sound awfully feminine to my ears or then it could be because I have like half a dozen cismale voices to compare my voice with so it just feels like it. :D
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Bastian

I was just thinking of this this morning, but I sort of knew my voice had dropped a little when I was about to do a high pitched "squee!" noise and my brain went "you really don't want to try that..." Now if I even think about making a high pitched sound my brain pretty much tells me it's not going to work, before I even give it a try, which I thought was very interesting. However I was still capable of a small 'squee' after meeting Norman Reedus a couple weeks ago ;) ... It was just a more manly 'squee' lol. Just a weird little thing I noticed and figured i'd share.
Started T in July 2012
Had Top Surgery on May 23rd, 2013

Where the wild things are...
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