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Sexual Reassignment Surgery: Regret

Started by Lanalicious34, May 30, 2013, 08:21:46 PM

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Tristan

Yeah 25k would be like the Bently of vaginas. Alot of good surgeons outside if the states charge way less. It's so expensive state side because of the insurance. 7-10k will get you a really good vagina ;)
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JennX

Most all US Surgeons total cost for SRS ranges from $25,000-$30,000. This includes Bowers, McGinn, Brassard, Meltzer. There are a few slightly more and less expensive here in the USA, but this is the median price range. Thai prices have been steadily creeping up as well.

"If you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
-Dolly Parton
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JennX

Quote from: Tristan on June 01, 2013, 01:11:39 PM
Yeah 25k would be like the Bently of vaginas. Alot of good surgeons outside if the states charge way less. It's so expensive state side because of the insurance. 7-10k will get you a really good vagina ;)

I consider mine more like a Ferrari F12 Berlinetta... So it was worth it. My bf agrees too.  ;)
"If you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
-Dolly Parton
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Ltl89

I can't imagine spending $25,000 on something I wasn't absolutely certain of.  It really boggles my mind.  I can't imagine when I will have that amount of money available, but I will do my best as it is important to me.  To randomly squander it without major consideration is really foolish. 

There is no shame in not wanting SRS or wanting SRS.  It is up to the individual.  SRS is something I want to have in the future when I'm able to afford it and further along in my transition.  I know plenty of people who are happy and report that everything works quite well  ;)  Sure, there are risks, but they are worth it to me.  If you don't feel the same way, that's cool.  Do what you want.  Screw everyone else.  If you don't want it, don't feel pressured into getting it.  But, also realize that there are those of us who really desire to get it done and it's important to us.  Respect all the different shades of our community. 
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Donna Elvira

Hi all,
For a person who is still trying to make up her mind about GRS, this has been a very interesting thread to read and before going any further, thanks to all for your contributions, especially those who are already over the hump.

For me, the experience of HRT and FFS have already eliminated any remaining doubts I might have had about transitioning. I now know for sure that I am far happier living as a woman. Based on this, if GRS could be done with a wave of a magic wand, it would already be done. Unfortunately, that is not the case so I am really thinking hard  about the pros and cons.

The Pros for me are as follows:

- Eliminating the last obstacle to being able to live comfortably as a woman under pretty well any circomstances including events like hospitalisation and any other situation requiring complete undress.
- The conviction that it will bring an even greater feeling of wholeness and inner integrity than I feel today.
- Facilitation of getting my gender changed officially. It's no longer a formal prerequisite  but to get any of your official papers changed in France, you still  have to go through a court procedure where the judge has complete power of decision. If you cannot convince them that you have made major physical changes, and in this area GRS carries more weight than anything else, many, if not most, will still still reject the request.
- Being able to wear any sort of clothes I like, already almost the case, but there are still some exceptions... :)


The Cons  are more generic:
- The significant risks associated with such surgery where there nearly always seem to be some complications, far more than with FFS.
- The amount of time required, apparently almost never less than two months and often a lot more. I'm not at all sure I can get this amount of time off from work.
- The impact it could have on my relationship with my wife. She has already digested huge changes but this last one would take us even further into uncharted territory.
- The cost but I think the costs that are being quoted here are probably on the high side. For information, here are some recent prices I am sure of:

Brassard: $19000 (including 14 days hospital + medicalized recovery house)
Supporn: $15600 (includes hospital stay but not pre and post-op accomodation)
Djordjevic $13000 (including hospital stay and pre & post-op accomodation)
Chettawut $10200 (includes hospital stay but not pre and post-op accomodation)

I personally know people who have done surgery with all of these surgeons and I'd find it difficult to chose between them based on their input. So, if I do go ahead it will be based on  gut instinct more than anything else. On that basis, Djordjevic presently comes out on top for me.

One thing is for sure, to avoid regrets, it is best to think through as many of the  potential consequences as possible before taking the plunge. Incidentally, I also know one person who has already tried to take her life twice since doing her GRS. It was not the GRS that did it directly but the impact the GRS had on her relationship with her wife. It finished it.

For what it's worth, in spite of the above considerations, my therapist told me this week that she would be OK to recommend me for GRS should I wish as she believes that I have taken things gradually enough to know what I am doing...

Warm regards to all you fellow travellers.
Donna
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Tristan

So just figured something out. From what your all saying you have the choice to get srs? It's not determined that you need it and have to have it by doctors and such?
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Heather

Quote from: Tristan on June 01, 2013, 03:02:48 PM
So just figured something out. From what your all saying you have the choice to get srs? It's not determined that you need it and have to have it by doctors and such?
As with anything in life Tristan are choices are not made by us. They are made for us by the amount of money we have. Yeah it's unfair but society is built around the premise it's not who you are but how much wealth you have that makes are decisions for us. So with that knowledge I have to get more money or learn to deal with my problems and that really the only choice I have in this world.
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Nicolette

Quote from: Heather on June 01, 2013, 03:14:27 PM
As with anything in life Tristan are choices are not made by us. They are made for us by the amount of money we have. Yeah it's unfair but society is built around the premise it's not who you are but how much wealth you have that makes are decisions for us. So with that knowledge I have to get more money or learn to deal with my problems and that really the only choice I have in this world.

I don't think this is what Tristan is saying. The actual choice to have SRS (regardless of funds) is completely up to us, no one else. A doctor cannot know what is best for us. And no, you don't have to have SRS to live as a woman.
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: Tristan on June 01, 2013, 03:02:48 PM
So just figured something out. From what your all saying you have the choice to get srs? It's not determined that you need it and have to have it by doctors and such?

Hi Tristan. I understood this the same way as Nicolette and would answer  the same thing as her.. Nobody but me will decide if and when I do GRS. Others may help me make my decision, among others all of you here,  and  my wife's input probably counts more than any other external input but, end of the day, we always have to make our own decisions.
Are you suggesting it was not your own case? If you have that impression, it could well explain the initial reactions after your GRS that you described in your first posts on this thread.
Warm regards.
Donna
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Heather

Quote from: Nicolette on June 01, 2013, 03:20:59 PM
I don't think this is what Tristan is saying.
Yeah I thought about that after I posted that! And I wasn't upset with Tristan in anyway when I posted that! But the truth is whether I get a docs permission or not the choice is kind of out my hands which I hate but it's the truth and I kinda have to accept that. :)
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Nicolette

Quote from: Heather on June 01, 2013, 03:47:56 PM
Yeah I thought about that after I posted that! And I wasn't upset with Tristan in anyway when I posted that! But the truth is whether I get a docs permission or not the choice is kind of out my hands which I hate but it's the truth and I kinda have to accept that. :)

:laugh: Personally, I don't think you will have a problem getting that permission. As you say, it could be more of a money issue.
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Joanna Dark

I actually saved around $25K for surgery in 2008. Then I spent it. I hate myself. I worked my butt of ever since I was 21 to compile it and now here I am 10 years later with nothing. To be fair, I did think I would make a whole lot more money and there was every reason to believe that. Then the economy imploded after Lehman. That's how I refer to my life: Before September 2008 and After. But I have no choice but start over. What else can I do? Like I said, I am confident insurers will be covering SRS in much greater numbers and soon.
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Theo

Quote from: Joanna Dark on June 01, 2013, 04:03:25 PM
Like I said, I am confident insurers will be covering SRS in much greater numbers and soon.

I always find http://www.hrc.org/corporate-equality-index/ to be quite an uplifting read in that respect. If you look at page 28 of the 2013 report, then you will see that "The number of major employers offering transgender-inclusive health care coverage" has increased almost by a factor of six over the last five years alone. :)
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Anatta

Kia Ora,

Not to hog the OP's thread(It saves me doing another similar thread)

Some simple questions for all you "full timer" pre oppers...

Leaving aside the possibility of any surgical complications...

What makes you 'think' you 'won't' regret having surgery ?...

What's happening in your daily lives that's affirming your decision to have surgery?

Have you mentally and physically prepared yourself ?

And what impact will surgery have on your daily life as it stand now ?

In a nutshell "Why do you think having surgery is the 'right' thing for you to do ?"

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: Kuan Yin on June 01, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
Kia Ora,

Not to hog the OP's thread(It saves me doing another similar thread)

Some simple questions for all you "full timer" pre oppers...

Leaving aside the possibility of any surgical complications...

What makes you 'think' you 'won't' regret having surgery ?...

What's happening in your daily lives that's affirming your decision to have surgery?

Have you mentally and physically prepared yourself ?

And what impact will surgery have on your daily life as it stand now ?

In a nutshell "Why do you think having surgery is the 'right' thing for you to do ?"

Metta Zenda :)


Bonsoir Kuan (pas de raison à ce que tu sois seule à ne pas causer en anglais ici...  :))
For starters it was still raining this morning and there have been many reports of "unidentified floating ark"  sightings over the last 24 hours... Other than that I tried to provide my own answers to the question you have just raised a few posts earlier and, since I think  I remember reading that are are post-op, at decision making time what was your own answer to the question?
Bises
Donna   

P.S. Just read your post where you say that it was the availability of Government funding that finally decided you but that can hardly have been the whole story?
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Joanna Dark

Quote from: Kuan Yin on June 01, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
Not to hog the OP's thread(It saves me doing another similar thread)

The OP has regrettably left. I am sure she had a lot of knowledge to offer.
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peky

Quote from: Kuan Yin on June 01, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
Kia Ora,

QuoteGreat questions "Kia Ora"

What makes you 'think' you 'won't' regret having surgery ?...

QuotePat experience...regrets I have a few but then again to few to mention

What's happening in your daily lives that's affirming your decision to have surgery?

QuoteMy daily live is but a series of calculated risk...so far so good

Have you mentally and physically prepared yourself ?

QuoteNot really. Mentally, I know the procedure and the task at hand, is just a question of implementation. Physically I am as healthy as when I was 20 YO

And what impact will surgery have on your daily life as it stand now ?

Quotevery  little. I will have like everybody else make time for the dilations

In a nutshell "Why do you think having surgery is the 'right' thing for you to do ?"

QuoteBecause I say so.....Is not that the way everything we decide about our own destiny works? I never acted on other peoples permission's or acknowledgments...Yet, I will consider their points of views but at the end of the day I am responsible for my own actions

Metta Zenda :)
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Kiwi4Ever

 :-\Two men in their 60s meet for the first time and discuss their respective sex changes, and subsequent reversals. :-\

Regretters...a film made in 2010.  The idea that I could ever change and become a man,...is unbelievable.  I have tried to view this documentary on line but without success, I can only access trailers.

My surgery saved my life.

Saved my life!

(Haven't we come a long way from calling "it" a sex-change?)  At least it defines what was done, whereas today, the only way to know someone has had this surgery is if they specifically refer to having had GRS or SRS.  Otherwise they are loosely referred to as transexual, or transgender etc.
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Jamie D

Here is the IMDB page.  Apparently the original name of the documentary(?) was "Ångrarna."  It is a Swedish film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1590252/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_dt_dt#akas
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Tristan

Oh wow. That's awful. I so had it all wrong. I thought there was some sort of funding or something to help with srs and that doctors kind of decided it. Is it different for some like if your a juvenile ? I mean I know I had issues when I was young and the psychiatric facility doctors pretty much told me it was the only want for me to really get better and get out. Idk maybe I miss understood. I thought it was kind if like that for everyone that needed to transition. Sorry for me being so ignorant girls :(
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