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What happens when you detransition?

Started by Joanna Dark, June 23, 2013, 04:37:25 PM

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Joanna Dark

So lately I have been wondering what happens when you detransition? I have heard opposing viewpoints on breast growth. Some people say that it completely reverses. Others say it is the one thing that doesn't reverse. But what about other changes like facial fat redistribution? Do you completely go back to  where you were before? maybe better lol

Note: I'm not thinking of detransition currently, but if at the year mark I don't feel like I pass and HRT has had ample time to work I don't see the point in continuing.

I know this is kind of a taboo subject but nevertheless an important one as I can't be the only person who feels this way. Heck, lately I feel like I should start dressing male again as people prob laugh at me under their breath and I am just too stupid to notice. Maybe once I move in with my BF these feelings will go away.
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Devlyn

It's not a taboo subject, some folks just like to think it is. Here are the facts gathered by the Wiki Staff: https://www.susans.org/wiki/Detransitioning

Hugs, Devlyn
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Tristan

Well some of the changes go away. The moobs might shrink some and your skin isn't as soft anymore. But I'm guessing if your only on them for a year I would think things can change back alot. Be sure of it before you do it or don't do it. Once you start having surgeries it's frustratingly hard to go back. And after srs going back is impossible
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Michelle S.

Quote from: Joanna Dark on June 23, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
So lately I have been wondering what happens when you detransition? I have heard opposing viewpoints on breast growth. Some people say that it completely reverses. Others say it is the one thing that doesn't reverse. But what about other changes like facial fat redistribution? Do you completely go back to  where you were before? maybe better lol

Note: I'm not thinking of detransition currently, but if at the year mark I don't feel like I pass and HRT has had ample time to work I don't see the point in continuing.

I know this is kind of a taboo subject but nevertheless an important one as I can't be the only person who feels this way. Heck, lately I feel like I should start dressing male again as people prob laugh at me under their breath and I am just too stupid to notice. Maybe once I move in with my BF these feelings will go away.

Umm, from what I've HEARD everything up to about 6-12 months in should fully reverse. After that, some effects are going to be permanent.

I know what you're going through though. There was a period where I became severely depressed. I thought I would never pass and that the only reason people "went along with it" is because they pitied me. I thought everyone must laugh when I leave the room. The whole time my girlfriend was telling me I was crazy and just overthinking everything. This was the truth... Learning to ignore some of these thoughts is very important. I slowly but surely did and I feel a million times better.

Also, how far into HRT are you? It wasn't until about 8 months in that I started feeling good about passing.


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Joanna Dark

I've been taking hormones for four months. I already do pass apparently as everyone refers to me as a girl and if I'm with my BF then as his girlfriend. I mean the whole reason I have a BF is because he thought I was this pleasant looking, cute girl. I told him I was trans. IDK, I am not thinking of detransitioning right now but if this is all I get I will not be a happy customer. Maybe I'm too hard on myself. I've been very fragile lately. Ugh.
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Michelle S.

Quote from: Joanna Dark on June 23, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
I've been taking hormones for four months. I already do pass apparently as everyone refers to me as a girl and if I'm with my BF then as his girlfriend. I mean the whole reason I have a BF is because he thought I was this pleasant looking, cute girl. I told him I was trans. IDK, I am not thinking of detransitioning right now but if this is all I get I will not be a happy customer. Maybe I'm too hard on myself. I've been very fragile lately. Ugh.

4 months? And passing? You're very fortunate. I'm sure you'll feel better!


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Joanna Dark

Quote from: Michelle S. on June 23, 2013, 06:18:04 PM
4 months? And passing? You're very fortunate. I'm sure you'll feel better!

Yeah I feel like I'm whining and ungrateful and stupid. OTOH, I don't think I pass all the time. I do look pretty feminine, I think, sometimes, but IDK. Maybe I'm hormonal or need reassurance or something or I miss my BF. IDK.

Then OTOH if I am so worried about not changing then why I am worried about changing back? Ugh. I actually don't want to detranstion at all but I don't want to be stuck in some weird in-between stage forever either if that makes sense.
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Tristan

Quote from: Joanna Dark on June 23, 2013, 06:30:36 PM
Yeah I feel like I'm whining and ungrateful and stupid. OTOH, I don't think I pass all the time. I do look pretty feminine, I think, sometimes, but IDK. Maybe I'm hormonal or need reassurance or something or I miss my BF. IDK.

Then OTOH if I am so worried about not changing then why I am worried about changing back? Ugh. I actually don't want to detranstion at all but I don't want to be stuck in some weird in-between stage forever either if that makes sense.
If you don't want to be a in between and your sure you want to transition then just get srs , ffs, and a BA at some point
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Joanna Dark

Quote from: Tristan on June 23, 2013, 06:46:36 PM
If you don't want to be a in between and your sure you want to transition then just get srs , ffs, and a BA at some point

Well I plan on getting SRS and I def don't need BA but yeah I would def get FFS if I could afford it. I could use a smaller, round chin and a decreased hairline and an upturned nose. The nose more then anything else though I have seen a lot of women with noses not unlike my own. But unless I win the lottery I won't be able to afford both. I can't afford either now and my BF said we would have to become Bonnie and Clyde to do it which sounds sexy in a dirty romantic sort of way.

The main thing I'm worried about if I am making a horrible mistake is the boobs. They're getting sooooo big. I didn't think this was possible. And all I wanted was my face to change. Maybe I don't even need FFS and now I'm starting to feel silly for posting this.

You'd think I'd feel better now that I have everything I want (a BF) but maybe it's making everything very real. Don't get me wrong when I think about it it makes me ecstatic.
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Tristan

I'm glad your feeling better about everything and have a idea of what you want to do and when you want to do it . Seems like this post did you some good then :)
Go ahead with whatever you need to do. And as far as the boobs go sounds like Mother Nature really likes you girl, just like that nice boyfriend of yours ;)
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Joanna Dark

Maybe I should just accept I am MAAB and because of that I'll always look somewhat manly and some things just are. Thanks for trying to help Tristan. I really, really appreciate it. I'll be okay.
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Tristan

No idea what that means mamma but your welcome. And I'm sure your going to make a fine woman :)
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Joanna Dark

Oh it just means I should accept I'll never look like Rose Byrne lol coincidentally, people keep calling me mama! I was walking down the street the other day and this girl said "you got a cigarette, little mama?" and then someone else called me mama. I actually kinda like it. It does make me feel better for some strange reason! i completely forgot about that.
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xchristine

You will return to the state that made you
Transition the first time...
Remember those feelings??

I did a de transition...years ago....thought it was all good.
With in a year ibararted to drink heavy...
One night ate 20 percocettes 20 valuim and drank a
26 of vodka fast. .
Took three days for the nurses to wake me up...they were very
Mad at me. 
And always feelings of sadness ...for everyr ...until ..I
Retransition.....

Was the worjst thing that ever happened to me
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Joanna Dark

Quote from: xchristine on June 23, 2013, 08:08:18 PM
You will return to the state that made you
Transition the first time...
Remember those feelings??

I did a de transition...years ago....thought it was all good.
With in a year ibararted to drink heavy...
One night ate 20 percocettes 20 valuim and drank a
26 of vodka fast. .
Took three days for the nurses to wake me up...they were very
Mad at me. 
And always feelings of sadness ...for everyr ...until ..I
Retransition.....

Was the worjst thing that ever happened to me

That's a really good point. I am not going to detransition. I just worry about the future too much and if I will find a better job and stuff like that. Though I guess dating isn't as much a worry. It was though.
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Ltl89

I totally understand how you feel Joanna.  There is so much more to transitioning than just passing, but it's important to a lot of us.  I can't imagine continuing looking like I do forever.  Then again, I guess that's the whole point of starting the whole transition process.  So you are not alone in feeling the way you do.  Please realize that you have only been on hormones for a short period.  At your time frame, the changes are just starting.  You won't be stuck forever in the in-between stages.  Unfortunately, you will have to go through that period, but it will end at some point.  And from the sound of it all, it's not much of an in between period anyway. 

Quote from: xchristine on June 23, 2013, 08:08:18 PM
You will return to the state that made you
Transition the first time...
Remember those feelings??

I did a de transition...years ago....thought it was all good.
With in a year ibararted to drink heavy...
One night ate 20 percocettes 20 valuim and drank a
26 of vodka fast. .
Took three days for the nurses to wake me up...they were very
Mad at me. 
And always feelings of sadness ...for everyr ...until ..I
Retransition.....

Was the worjst thing that ever happened to me

Christine, that sounds terrible.  I'm glad you made it through and are here to share your tale. 
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Joanna Dark

Quote from: learningtolive on June 23, 2013, 09:01:51 PM
And from the sound of it all, it's not much of an in between period anyway. 

The in-between period is in my head. I only think I pass in my reflection where I think I look really feminine for some reason. And there is really no difference between a reflection and a picture. The thing is if I wasn't changing then nobody would notice and everyone I know now thinks I am a transsexual and this is based purely on facial looks. I'm obssessed with it this weekend and usually I'm good. It's not like I get sir'd and I have tried and it didn't work. So I don't know what my deal is because I should be ecstatic. I look like a girl, I sound like a girl, I have a BF. What else could I want? I mean other then to look like Rose Byrne lol
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Ltl89

Quote from: Joanna Dark on June 23, 2013, 09:18:04 PM
The in-between period is in my head. I only think I pass in my reflection where I think I look really feminine for some reason. And there is really no difference between a reflection and a picture. The thing is if I wasn't changing then nobody would notice and everyone I know now thinks I am a transsexual and this is based purely on facial looks. I'm obssessed with it this weekend and usually I'm good. It's not like I get sir'd and I have tried and it didn't work. So I don't know what my deal is because I should be ecstatic. I look like a girl, I sound like a girl, I have a BF. What else could I want? I mean other then to look like Rose Byrne lol

We all have high, often unrealistic, expectations of ourselves.  And when we don't meet them we beat ourselves up about it.  It's normal.
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Jamie D

Quote from: Joanna Dark on June 23, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
So lately I have been wondering what happens when you detransition? I have heard opposing viewpoints on breast growth. Some people say that it completely reverses. Others say it is the one thing that doesn't reverse. But what about other changes like facial fat redistribution? Do you completely go back to  where you were before? maybe better lol

Note: I'm not thinking of detransition currently, but if at the year mark I don't feel like I pass and HRT has had ample time to work I don't see the point in continuing.

I know this is kind of a taboo subject but nevertheless an important one as I can't be the only person who feels this way. Heck, lately I feel like I should start dressing male again as people prob laugh at me under their breath and I am just too stupid to notice. Maybe once I move in with my BF these feelings will go away.

Boobs can take years.  It does not "completely" reverse, if you had any glandular tissue growth.  Adipose tissue can diminish, because, off hormones you are not depositing fat in the female pattern.
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Joanna Dark

How would you know if you had glandular tissue growth? That sounds exciting! But I'm guessing the face is all adipose fat but it still feels like given enough time even that wouldn't reverse. My curiousity is purely academic. I'm not contemplating stopping nor do I see myself being able to because I love the changes too, too much.
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