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Started by Kade1985, July 10, 2013, 01:23:12 PM

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Kade1985

So I've been playing this game called Guild Wars 2, it's a multi-mass online game... And my guild mates wanted me on vent, this voice chatting program and I was hesitant to do so. I know I sounds like a female and no matter how hard I try to mask that part it's just obvious. So now everyone there knows I'm physically female and keep calling me her and she and stuff like that and I hate it. I feel so dysphoric every time.

I know I could just tell them, but then I fear causing problems or something. I don't know what to do in this situation. Should I just tell them and be done with it? Or should I keep it to myself? I don't know. I have fun playing with these guys and so I'm afraid if I say something it might cause problems.

But it's like a sore reminder every time they refer to me with female pronouns. I know I have to wait for a transition because of my living situation with my mom until I'm done with college, but now it's just... Uhg.

When I get money again I plan to get a few chest binders and stuff, and I'm sort of thinking of introducing myself as Kade when my new classes start (I'm starting to like the name Kade more), and I'm hoping that will help, but for now I feel a bit.... stuck.

What should I do?
www.youtube.com/kadeforester <--- my weekly vlog for my transition
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Jess42

Just tell them you are a guy. I used to have to do it all the time if I was going to be seeing the people face to face. In my case it was flattering. People just say sorry and move on without a second thought.
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Ruthven

Yeah, tell them you're a guy, and maybe say you have low t or are like real young or something.
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Lesley_Roberta

There is no real answer.

Every transwoman here likely enjoys sounding like a man as little as every transman enjoys sounding like a female.

I answer the phone, and I get 'sir'. They can't see me, they just react.

If you speak in public, you get what they think they heard.

It's sucks.

I have seen people in cosplay, and they were just cosplaying, and you hear their voice and it's like holy crap! Our voices just don't care about our needs.

I walk down the street wearing perfume and I think what is your sense of smell broken? when people don't notice. I wear a purse and it's NOT a man bag or even close, and they don't seem to see it and I wonder, what, are you blind? I'm wearing jewellery, and it's clearly NOT a man's type of jewellery, and they just don't notice. The can only see the male pattern hair loss. The lack of breasts, and my voice is not even required.

But online, through voice, well it can be brutal I suppose.
The thing is, men speak in a male fashion, and if you spent any amount of time as one before going the route of transition, you might just not hear it. Women will have the same trouble. It's something a person needs to reeeeeeeally listen for. It's like an accent. When I get tired, I sound more clearly like I am from Quebec :) (I am by the way).

Be who you are, be entirely who you are, and own all of what you are and don't worry about it (yes I know, sounds easier than it is).

Tell them 'you are a man' (in your case) and when they ask about the voice, just tell them, 'not my fault I sound female, but I'm not'.

Then tell them, if you feel in a funny mood, that you have considered phone sex if you are ever in dire need of cash :)
Well being TG is no treat, but becoming separated has sure caused me more trouble that being TG ever will be. So if I post, consider it me trying to distract myself from being lonely, not my needing to discuss being TG. I don't want to be separated a lot more than not wanting to be male looking.
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Kade1985

Quote from: Lesley_Roberta on July 10, 2013, 04:55:30 PM

Then tell them, if you feel in a funny mood, that you have considered phone sex if you are ever in dire need of cash :)

lmao that's amazing, I should use that.

But really I haven't corrected them before and just... went along with it, like I said, for fear of causing trouble. I don't know how to correct this situation at this point. Perhaps I should have said something from the start. Most of my friends say I act more male than female so I don't think that's really the issue. Or well as far as how I act in front of others. Cause I am male on the inside, and I want others to know, but I know not everyone will... be as accepting as others.

So should I just speak up and be like, "I prefer male pronouns?" Otherwise I am fear I'm stuck at this point.
www.youtube.com/kadeforester <--- my weekly vlog for my transition
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Tristan

I second that idea of just telling them your a guy. I mean you are
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Kelly J. P.

 Saying you prefer male pronouns is... not exactly how I would phrase it. Show off a little alpha flare and tell them you're a guy, and make sure they darn well know it.
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King Malachite

I sort of have this problem while playing Call of Duty on PS3.  I just try to lower my voice.  Is there some type of a voice-altering mic you could use?
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Lesley_Roberta

Requesting a preference for pronouns is a red flag, they will then ask why.

Just say you are what you are, and for them to stop acting like you weren't and if the option permits, like I said just have some laughs with it, and in the end, say you are what you are, and life gave you an annoying voice.
Well being TG is no treat, but becoming separated has sure caused me more trouble that being TG ever will be. So if I post, consider it me trying to distract myself from being lonely, not my needing to discuss being TG. I don't want to be separated a lot more than not wanting to be male looking.
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EdekStaszek

Quote from: Malachite on July 10, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
I sort of have this problem while playing Call of Duty on PS3.  I just try to lower my voice.  Is there some type of a voice-altering mic you could use?
On the PS3
Press the PS3 button
Go to Options (or something)
Look under voice something.
There's an option to make you're voice higher or lower.
Sorry if this isn't accurate. I Haven't played PS3 for a while. My brother traded in MINE for an Xbox360 D: (Don't do it, PS3 is better!)
But yeah, theres an option there for voice change. Just look around there.
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Adam (birkin)

I would just tell them you're a guy and not get into details. People can be real jerks and I think sometimes it's best to say as little as possible.
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King Malachite

Quote from: EdekStaszek on July 10, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
On the PS3
Press the PS3 button
Go to Options (or something)
Look under voice something.
There's an option to make you're voice higher or lower.
Sorry if this isn't accurate. I Haven't played PS3 for a while. My brother traded in MINE for an Xbox360 D: (Don't do it, PS3 is better!)
But yeah, theres an option there for voice change. Just look around there.

I looked it up and had no idea this was possible....omg.

I'm about to go trolling on Call of Duty: Black Ops now
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Heather

Quote from: Jerred1985 on July 10, 2013, 01:23:12 PM
So I've been playing this game called Guild Wars 2, it's a multi-mass online game... And my guild mates wanted me on vent, this voice chatting program and I was hesitant to do so. I know I sounds like a female and no matter how hard I try to mask that part it's just obvious. So now everyone there knows I'm physically female and keep calling me her and she and stuff like that and I hate it. I feel so dysphoric every time.


Believe or not Jerred they are actually treating you like one of the guys! That's kinda what guys do especially younger guys do. Unless you told them you where born in the wrong body they probably don't know and are just making fun of your voice. Guys really do that to each other I've been called so many names and my so called manhood questioned over the years it's really not even funny.
Now here is the best advice I can give you find something to make fun of them about and question their manhood you will instantly be just one of the guys then. And one more piece of advice don't let them ever know you don't like being called a girl because they will just do it more.   ;) But I totally understand how much this bothers you I guess I was lucky because when one of my friends called me a girl I was happy about it. But as I said being made fun of is actually a form of acceptance with guys.
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Emmaline

I worked on an xbox mmo (that got canned) which used headsets... you could filter your voice then, from pitch bends, robot, demon etc.  That was gosh, ten years ago easy... surely there a voice filter on one of the available chat programs.
Body... meet brain.  Now follow her lead and there will be no more trouble, you dig?



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Emmaline

Oh, and just tell the guys if they think you sound like a girl, they maybe should get a girlfriend and quit projecting ;)

Okay I found a heap of voice changers available, one even works with skype.  You should find something suitable quite cheaply!

By the way, I actually visited the guildwars 2 studio and got a photo of me next to their armoured server room doors!  Shame it was in boy mode.  But yeah... got to touch the door that soooooo many people want to get through.

Lol
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EdekStaszek

Quote from: Malachite on July 10, 2013, 11:38:17 PM
I looked it up and had no idea this was possible....omg.

I'm about to go trolling on Call of Duty: Black Ops now
You do that I'm gonna go **Yawn** Hit the sack, so to say.
**Proceeds to walk to the nearest barn and boxes sacks of grain** <--Ignore this stupid comment.
Have fun Trolling!
Oh, Don't turn it up to minimouse or mickiemouse frequency. it gives people a headache.
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EdekStaszek

Quote from: Heather on July 10, 2013, 11:41:50 PM
But as I said being made fun of is actually a form of acceptance with guys.
Agree to disagree? If that where true, then I would be First second most accepted person in school.
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Cindy

Emmaline seems to have the answer!

As for phone conversations I just tell them I'm female with a deep voice and what do they want?

I once had to call emergency services and they referred to me as He, I told them that I was female, they apologised and continued but using correct pronouns.

Professionals are just that. Professional. Don't sweat it, it's small bananas

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Heather

Quote from: EdekStaszek on July 11, 2013, 03:12:47 AM
Agree to disagree? If that where true, then I would be First second most accepted person in school.
I meant amongst friends! Now if there not your friends their actually making fun of you. But with friends it's not meant to be personal.  ;)
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Lesley_Roberta

The put down game is indeed important to male bonding.

In the case of a stranger, it is just being rude offensive and nasty. But among friends it's a means to define who the alpha dingbat is among the group. It's always alpha something.

Women determine the alpha female in a group just as much, it's just done in a way most males simply wouldn't notice or understand.

Growing up, I had to deal with this all the time. It likely explains why it never bothered me (I never wanted to be an alpha male), and I really never really comprehended it as well to some extent (my mind is just not the required OS).

I have never been in a fight in my life. Never had the need for dominance. Never needed to express my prowess in a physical showy fashion.

On the other hand, it has actually been observed by people that know me, that I am actually often the person that is responsible for half the group actually knowing the other half. I have a strong match making manner.

I spent most of the 90s constantly telling people online I wasn't a woman (comical irony I realize). This is mainly as I have been told I talk like a woman, bitch like a housewife, and simply don't act like a man. Oh well.
Well being TG is no treat, but becoming separated has sure caused me more trouble that being TG ever will be. So if I post, consider it me trying to distract myself from being lonely, not my needing to discuss being TG. I don't want to be separated a lot more than not wanting to be male looking.
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