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waking up after SRS.

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Beth Andrea

Quote from: MariaMx on July 28, 2013, 11:13:14 AM
@Beth Andrea:

My initial recovery was exceptionally bad but I don't there's anything wrong with this thread. I think humor is a great way to cope with surgery and I thought a great deal about what witty things I would say when I woke up  :)

The reality however was that when I woke up after srs it didn't even cross my mind that I now had a vagina, let alone what funny things I had planned to say It was a hellish nightmare that I can't even begin to describe and pain and discomfort seemed to radiate out of some unknown alternate dimension, and it lasted for what seemed like days. Perhaps what caused it was that I had revisions and other procedures done at the same time and spent almost 11 hours on the table  :o

Instead, for my last surgery, I put my efforts into saying something funny before right before they put me under  :)

That's the general feeling I get from reading accounts of SRS, and in this thread. After the surgery, the most common thing seems to be vomiting. (I don't know if that's normal after any given surgery, or just for SRS, but a lot of people seem to mention it... :-X )

I haven't had physical pain like that ("radiating out of..."), but I have had spiritual pain to that degree. OMG that is awful, I wouldn't wish it on even my worst enemy.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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MariaMx

Quote from: Beth Andrea on July 28, 2013, 11:30:35 AM
That's the general feeling I get from reading accounts of SRS, and in this thread. After the surgery, the most common thing seems to be vomiting. (I don't know if that's normal after any given surgery, or just for SRS, but a lot of people seem to mention it... :-X )
I vomited a lot after FFS also but not after AM.

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Ms. OBrien CVT

 Another "reply" from my UK medic friend:-

"I think the important thing for everyone to realize is that patients are all very much more individual in their response to things than most people realize.

Some will have very high pain thresholds and simply will not perceive as uncomfortable, something which for another would be unbearable. Add to that the fact that recent studies have shown that women and men tend to have rather different responses to pain and it all gets very complicated. Women tend to feel pain more as an emotion, a state of mind if you like, whereas men tend to zero in on physical sensation. For this reason there has been recent work on using different types of pain relief for men and women. Typically females respond better to pain relief that contains a sedative element.

To further complicate this there is the whole thing about there being no way to get inside someone else's head and verify that their experience is the same as yours. So what it all boils down to is that your experience will be yours and yours alone, and for that reason its fairly pointless, even if understandable, to ask about this sort of thing. The same thing broadly applies to pain in dilation, electrolysis, laser, and indeed any other treatment you may conceive of.

If I may propose the general idea, prepare for the worst, and then you will probably be pleasantly surprised when its not as bad as you anticipated. By contrast if you go in expecting to be all roses and fairy farts you will probably be horrified at how bad it actually is. This is why when injecting a new patient I won't tell them "this won't hurt," instead I will say "I won't lie, this IS going to hurt a little bit, but be brave." - then nine times out of ten it's simply not as bad as they fear and they feel ok.

I have seen people who have indeed had a very bad reaction on waking, including vomit and all sorts, in fact one girl I was with when she woke nearly died. However these are actually surprisingly rare occurrences given that this is major surgery, and I also know of people who had no vomiting, no discomfort and even refused morphine going through the whole process with nothing stronger than Acetaminophen (Tylenol to you).

Bottom line is - you want the procedure, you've been dreaming of it, so find a strategy in your mind that enables you to actually enjoy the process. Approached in the right frame of mind, even dilation should be at least marginally enjoyable. For example how long have you longed to be able to insert something there? Well now you can, indeed now you have medical dispensation to do so at least three times a day without being accused of being immorally obsessed with playing with your new bits! So how good should that feel?

Most teenage girls would love to have had six months of their life when they had license to masturbate without feeling guilty! Or you can simply think about all the wasted time and feel annoyed that you have to do this. Approach it with one attitude and the time will fly by and you will feel positive about it. Approach it with the other and all you do is reinforce the idea that as a trans-woman you are somehow hard done by - which attitude I reject.

Now you may imagine that speaking, as I do, from the perspective of the medic I am demonstrating that I know nothing about about what you are going through. Be careful with that thought. I understand more than you realize, but I am also very convinced that Positive mental attitude will get you better results than indulging in self pity."

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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Northern Jane

Quote from: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 28, 2013, 11:58:39 AM
....... Bottom line is - you want the procedure, you've been dreaming of it, so find a strategy in your mind that enables you to actually enjoy the process. Approached in the right frame of mind, even dilation should be at least marginally enjoyable.

That could explain a lot. SRS was a life-saving procedure for me and all I remember is a dull ache for a day or two. When "pain meds" were discontinued in a couple of days I just felt GREAT. Funny there was no awareness of pain.
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calico

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@beth I think the reason for vomiting (at least for me) is/was blood loss during the operation combined with being under for .. well all day.
Also I know when I have severe pain it makes me sick to my stomach, even if it isn't surgery (I have had this before) I think if they have had of kept me doped a lil longer I prob wouldn't have vomited..  maybe
"To be one's self, and unafraid whether right or wrong, is more admirable than the easy cowardice of surrender to conformity."― Irving Wallace  "Before you can be anything, you have to be yourself. That's the hardest thing to find." -  E.L. Konigsburg
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MariaMx

I've heard that the vomiting is caused by anesthesia and being under for so long.

The pain I experienced after waking up wasn't exactly the type we usually think of. It's not like the pain we feel when we stub a toe or burn our hand on the stove. One would think that after SRS you'd feel your crotch being on fire or something, but it's not like that at all. The pain I experienced was like a thick soupy fog all around me. I think it was the sum of all the things that were "wrong" that caused this strange state. Half conscious, throwing up, legs and arms completely numb, body aching and sore, head and crotch completely wrapped in bandages, fever, pumped full of god only knows how many drugs, and to top it all off I had a migraine from hell (the migraine was probably the worst part of it all, it lasted for about 4 days and was only intermittently punctured by the morphine injections). Basically I felt mortally sick and wounded. Had I not had all the other procedures done at the same time I'm sure it wouldn't have been nearly half as bad. There really wasn't much pain like one would expect in the surgical sites.

As bad as it was I don't think it really matters. I fully expected it to be bad and it needed to be done no matter how painful it would be. Actually I'm glad I had the experience I had. It was very interesting. Transition made me badass I think :)
"Of course!"
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translora

There's a lot to be said about the discomfort from lingering anesthetic versus the pain of the actual procedure.

I recently had two female relatives go through major surgeries (non-trans) and both described essentially what is being described here with regard to nausea and general overall discomfort. In both cases it took 3-4 days to begin feeling "normal" enough to realize that the general discomfort (throughout the body) had been from the anesthetic and that the pain at the site of the actual procedure wasn't what they had been dealing with.

Additionally, reactions to the pain meds can sometimes screw people up.

I don't want to minimize the pain from the surgery, but in the soup of post-op pain and bodily discomfort, anesthesia and medications may play a bigger role than some people expect in advance.

ZoeM

I really hate nausea - to the point that it can be debilitating and I will actively avoid it - so I think if nausea's involved I will not be a happy camper. Still, it's worth it, right?
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DrBobbi

The nausea is from the anesthesia and there are excellent anti-nausea IV drugs that can be pushed. You should have a serious talk with your anesthesiologist prior to going under. It's not unusual to throw up after being extubated. Also the IV pain meds can cause nausea. Anyway, like all things, it will pass. A small price to pay, isn't it.

One last thing, there will always be people in our lives, and on this forum that don't have a sense of humor. The most important thing for all of us is to keep laughing. Transition(ing) requires laughter. So don't apologize to anyone, here, or in life for having a sense of humor. Well...maybe to our cars for all the damage done on HRT.

Keep laughing!
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kariann330

I love how a thread that was meant to be funny turned serious over night lol.
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ZoeM

Quote from: kariann330 on July 29, 2013, 02:01:53 PM
I love how a thread that was meant to be funny turned serious over night lol.
Well,
Transition is SRS business, after all.
Don't lose who you are along the path to who you want to be.








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Beth Andrea

...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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pebbles

When it comes to the issue of dilating I intend to borrow this gem from my friend sarah from when she was getting a cervical smear. (Imagine it in her slightly cockney/london tough girl accent aswell)

"Oi oi Careful now love I'm not a chimney!"
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Shodan

Quote from: MariaMx on July 29, 2013, 06:13:23 AM
I've heard that the vomiting is caused by anesthesia and being under for so long.

This. It really depends on what kind of anesthesia is used, but extreme nausea is not an uncommon side effect of most of them. I'm not an anesthesiologist. I just work with them on a daily basis. :D

Knowing me, if/when I get it done I'm sure I'll puke my guts out. And THEN say something like, 'My god, Doctor! What did you do to me! I think I just puked my balls out." I'm really not a classy lady at all. Not. At. All.




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Miranda Catherine

I was told by my mom a few months ago that she'd pay for my SRS, since I'm on SSI due to injuries, and will be 59 in 17 days. I' ve only been living full time for the last 23 months of my life, the best and really the only good close to two years of my entire life and for now she has the funds. She's 85, had a stroke in December and wants to see her daughter whole, which for me means having a functioning vagina instead of this thing between my legs I've hated for as long as I can remember. This isn't to cast judgment on anyone else's decision how far they intend to go in their feminization, it's just that I feel I need it to feel totally female. Between her offer to pay for my surgery and now she lost her son, my brother, so I'm going to start searching seriously within the next few months. I've put up with a lot of pain in my life, both physical (41 bones and 16 surgeries) and mental (gender dysphoria since about three years old) but this is the only surgery I've ever looked forward to and know will be worth it. When I come out of the anesthesia I'll probably scream from the pain, then ask the nurse if it's finished, and once she says yes, I'll say "then I'm complete." Then I'll call my mom as soon as I can to thank her for something money can't buy, love. I'm sorry I can't joke about this subject yet, but if I come up with something before I get it, believe me, you'll read it! Hugs, Mira
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ones I've been able to live without lying
and the only time I've had since the age of twelve
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Pia Bianca

Quote from: Miranda Elizabeth on July 30, 2013, 02:56:35 AM
something money can't buy, love.
But sometimes, money can buy happiness...
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missy1992

Before my SRS i said wish me luck and did the sign of the cross on the operating table. Everyone laughed in the OR.
When I woke up I was way too out of it to do anything. Pain meds + Pink Floyd on my iPhone= HECK YES  >:-)

No nausea for me because I requested a spinal. For FFS I did not vomit but was quite sick so I was rather thankful for the spinal.
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Miranda Catherine

QuoteI'll call my mom as soon as I can to thank her for something money can't buy, love.
Quote from: PiaBianca on July 30, 2013, 04:46:49 AM
But sometimes, money can buy happiness...
I agree Pia, without money most of us would be unbearably unhappy, and for me, suicidally. Being a woman costs $$$, and becoming one after testosterone has poisoned our bodies and going all the way with it costs an incredible amount of physical pain and $$$, but I think it will be worth it. I read a posting in one of the threads here from a young woman who was diagnosed with gender dysphoria at five, given estrogen and anti-androgens just before testosterone would have begun doing its damage at puberty and had her SRS last year at 18. I don't think gender dysphoria can be 'cured', and I've known I was in the wrong body since I was four, when my dad made my mom forbid me, once and for all, from getting into her makeup and jewelry. My mom has told me many things since I went full time on September 7th, 2011, things I didn't remember or had only a vague recollection of, like them sitting me down and telling me in no uncertain terms that I was a boy. I knew I wasn't, just like so many others stuck in the wrong body, and I actually told them that, "then I'm in the wrong body" and that "I'll never be happy as a boy, never!" And it was a self fulfilling prophecy of nearly 57 wasted years. I tried everything under the sun, including religion, sports, and finally drugs to become happy as a male, irreparably damaging my knee, back and hip in the process. Frankly, I find it hard to even look at myself down there, and will go through any amount of pain to finally have my body match my mind, heart and soul. I'm sorry I've gone off the subject a bit, but despite the physical pain I'll have to endure, I've faced a lifetime of mental and physical pain with nothing but a destroyed body to show for it, so this pain will truly be a miniscule price to pay to finally be the whole me, Miranda Elizabeth Thomson. Thank you all for listening to my diatribe. Hugs, Mira
These three years have been the best of my entire life
ones I've been able to live without lying
and the only time I've had since the age of twelve
I haven't constantly thought about dying



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mrs izzy

To see if can get this back on OP's track,

Not so sure of things in the recovery room and came out of things more when i was back in the room. First thing i said after i looked down at my fancy hospital panites where there was 2 huge bags of ice " i said to my husband i thought they where going to remove the bump and not make it bigger". 

Anyway was all fun at the moment.
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Jenna Marie

I made my wife promise I couldn't have access to the internet unless I answered one silly test question, which was the first thing I said when they wheeled me down from the recovery room. :) Private joke, really, but we both were cracking up.

(And I'm another who ended up barfing from the anesthesia. Luckily, IV anti-nausea meds fixed that up.)
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