Visited England........

[pollypagan]

......from Scotland for a few days, Uppingham to be precise. Anyway I was in a hotel wearing jeans, T shirt and make up. As I approached the bar a middle aged man stood up and walked away making head gestures towards me and said to others in the bar, quietly but not quietly enough,  "I can't make up my mind about it. Don't know if it's a ->-bleeped-<-, poof or what."

We'll that's just over 3 weeks into hormones and I'm not turning back now but this is not going to be a walk in the park. Talking of which, I think I'll go for a walk round Strathclyde Park, twice and quickly. Some lipids are starting to settle in (and not where I want them )

[Cindy]

Cindy response to that circumstance; question to the room.

Is that a fart on legs or a stupid old git?

(I make friends everywhere )

Cindy

[stacey fisher]

pollypagan
I am surprized to hear about your time in Scotland I live in Scotland in Edinburgh I moved her when I started to trans and been living  full time as fem for around 15 months now I go out all the time dressed and made up and not ever had any negative  comments only people being supportive  Scotland has a large number of transgender people in Edinburgh and it is not uncommon to see someone out and about in Edinburgh that's trans and most people don't give us a second glance most people I have come in contact with that don't know me have all had the view of god in you if that's what you want may be this person you came in to contact with was not a local guy and his first encounter with some like us  don't let this put u off as Scotland is normally a friendly place and has a large transgender community  what was the the place in Scotland u visited
all the best and sending u a big hug
Stacey xxx feel fee to mail me 

[Dreams2014]

As a Welshie myself I hear great things about the people being tolerant in Scotland. Would you say you find it better to be transgender in Scotland rather than England?

[stacey fisher]

 Dreams2014

I moved to Scotland in 20011 from Essex  and before that Berkshire yes Scotland is more acceptable to trans people than England and there is more help and support in Scotland for transgender than I found in England and people are more acceptable of people that r trans  I have never had any negative reaction 

[Dreams2014]

Interesting. Although I hear the hotspots in England like Brighton, Manchester, Bristol and Blackpool are very accepting. But as a country Scotland sounds much more accepting over a range of issues. I may have to move there someday!

[Sephirah]

As someone from England, I'd like to say that was a prime example of some guy acting like a bit of a douche because he had an audience, rather than a reflection on us as a whole. At least I would hope that was the case.

I apologise on behalf of one of my more humanitarianly challenged countryfolk, and hope one day evolution sees fit to phase out the Neanderthal from his genetic makeup so that his progeny are less... oafish.

 

[Dreams2014]

As someone from England, I'd like to say that was a prime example of some guy acting like a bit of a douche because he had an audience, rather than a reflection on us as a whole. At least I would hope that was the case.

I apologise on behalf of one of my more humanitarianly challenged countryfolk, and hope one day evolution sees fit to phase out the Neanderthal from his genetic makeup so that his progeny are less... oafish.

Well you know if you're willing to wait 5 million years...?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/03/the-end-of-men-scientist-predicts-male-extinction-in-five-million-years-3581046/

[Sammy]

Well you know if you're willing to wait 5 million years...?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/03/the-end-of-men-scientist-predicts-male-extinction-in-five-million-years-3581046/

This made my day . One of those case when I after reading the article I got my first impression "Actually,as a woman, I dont care". But that sentence "'It's a lovely example of what I call dumb design. It's an evolutionary accident,' she said." - that was not the most sensitive comment, really . It is marvellous experience to see how both genders complement each other - when they dont try to hurt each other, of course, or when they are not pitted against each other in dumb articles like - "10 reasons why X are better at doing Y than Z" etc.

[Nicolette]

Well you know if you're willing to wait 5 million years...?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/03/the-end-of-men-scientist-predicts-male-extinction-in-five-million-years-3581046/

Wow, a solution to ->-bleeped-<- in 5 million years. By then, we'll all be posthumans, anyway.

[Jayne]

Interesting. Although I hear the hotspots in England like Brighton, Manchester, Bristol and Blackpool are very accepting.

Even in a town as accepting as Bristol you still meet chest thumping primates who feel that they have the right to loudly voice their ignorance whilst throwing their poop around.
I've been out for two & a half years in Bristol & i've had met many examples of the lower end of the evolutionary process in my time, i'm not the kind of person to take this quietly so the creature in question normally gets a flea in their ear, if people are dumb enough to rattle my cage then they deserve whatever verbal response I decide to fling their way.

[Lesley_Roberta]

When I think of Scotland, I think of Sean Connery unfortunately. Great actor, ->-bleeped-<- of a human though.

I am Scottish decent though (like I think 3rd removed).

But it was a bar, and well enough said. I look for intellectual conversation in places like libraries

I would only expect men to act like men in a bar. And single men are often single for a reason eh.

I wonder if most men could read my mind, if they would be any happier

[Beth Andrea]

Wow, a solution to ->-bleeped-<- in 5 million years. By then, we'll all be posthumans, anyway.

Considering every species for 800 million years (except single-celled ones) have had a "male" and "female", I'd say the lady's comments were on par with the "fart on legs" that felt he had to make a comment because he had an audience...

We'll that's just over 3 weeks into hormones and I'm not turning back now but this is not going to be a walk in the park.

3 weeks isn't enough time for any changes, except maybe emotional.

[Nicolette]

Considering every species for 800 million years (except single-celled ones) have had a "male" and "female", I'd say the lady's comments were on par with the "fart on legs" that felt he had to make a comment because he had an audience...

I agree, and the comments have been trashed by other scientists. And it's a bit silly anyway as the genetic modifications we will make through science, to the genome in the future, will make evolutionary ones pale into insignificance.

[Beth Andrea]

I agree, and the comments have been trashed by other scientists. And it's a bit silly anyway as the genetic modifications we will make through science, to the genome in the future, will make evolutionary ones pale into insignificance.

Übermensch!

Und vat zhall ve do mit die untermensch?

(I will note that eugenics was an American invention...but having a "Bubba" voice say that would have been...ironic at best)

[big kim]

Sadly there are people like that still,last time anyone said that to me I told him to go and colour his book in.His mates thought it was funny but he didn't see the funny side

[pollypagan]

Gosh what a load of responses and when I read it back it looked like I was having a dig at England. Really I wasn't. I don't think those in the bar were in any way representative of English people but maybe small out the way village types perhaps. But even then everyone else was just fine. I live in Scotland and so far everything has gone well and know fine that if I go to Glasgow, Edinburgh... everything will be ok but if I perhaps went to a small Scottish village where they still point at aeroplanes it could be different.

By the way, today after my health walk I went for a curry (yes, I know.....) Anyway, once again wearing jeans, T shirt and subtle make-up, the staff who did not know me consistently called my wife and I "ladies".

[Nicolette]

Übermensch!

Und vat zhall ve do mit die untermensch?

(I will note that eugenics was an American invention...but having a "Bubba" voice say that would have been...ironic at best)

Ah, but there wouldn't be any untermensch. Oh dear.. Says me, with all my 40% Ashkenazi genetics.

[Lesley_Roberta]

Every time evolutionary processes is mentioned, I get twinges.

A lot of people seem to fail to realize, that slow steady evolution is of course possible, but, most of the most significant changes in the course of life on this planet has happened as a result of massive global death in the realm of near total elimination.

Take for instance Toba erupting and it nearly wiped our species out. Most of the evolution up to that point was suddenly and violently altered. We are the decedents of a handful of survivors.

I am sure if Yellowstone were to erupt equally violently (as it has already done several times), it would sure set in motion a great deal of changes. There would be a great deal of us dealt out of the game and violently so.

Some days I wish it would blow too.

[Beth Andrea]

Every time evolutionary processes is mentioned, I get twinges.

A lot of people seem to fail to realize, that slow steady evolution is of course possible, but, most of the most significant changes in the course of life on this planet has happened as a result of massive global death in the realm of near total elimination.

Take for instance Toba erupting and it nearly wiped our species out. Most of the evolution up to that point was suddenly and violently altered. We are the decedents of a handful of survivors.

I am sure if Yellowstone were to erupt equally violently (as it has already done several times), it would sure set in motion a great deal of changes. There would be a great deal of us dealt out of the game and violently so.

Some days I wish it would blow too.

Changes to a species includes many different levels...not all of them are adaptations to natural disasters.

All domestic animals started out as wild, and over the 100,000 years +/- of man's era, we have modified all of them to fit various niches. Dogs, cats, horses, cows, chickens...all of them are the result of selective breeding (and exterminating the "unfit" ones)...so it is possible to "breed" a "new man", whether they are called Übermensch, Aryan, Jewish, Adamic, Superman, or even just Fred and Barney.

Perhaps "evolution" is too large a scale of a word, like "hurricane" is to "light breeze"...we may need a word that indicates a species change is manmade.