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Note to society: stop blaming games and take responsibility for your actions.

Started by Ltl89, August 27, 2013, 03:00:41 AM

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Ltl89

Mods, I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this thread, but I wanted to address this particular topic and create a dialogue. Please move it to the appropriate forum if it isn't in the right spot. 

I just saw an interview with a convicted killer and throughout the whole interview he blamed his actions on gaming, music and the media.   This annoys me to no end because not once do these people take responsibility for their own acts.  Sure they say it, but the scope of their argument makes it clear that they exonerate themselves for any blame.  Oh, you played a video game and listened to a rock video, so you are justified in your violent actions.  Seriously?  How many of us have played a game and never thought about hurting another.  Last week, I played "Batman: Arkham Asylum" and I didn't get the urge to dress up in a bat costume and start beating people up.  It's a game.  It's entertainment.  If you don't have the ability to distinguish this, then I'm sorry, but video games are the least of your problems.  To act as though that gaming is the main culprit and enabler of violent acts when millions of other people take up such a hobby without ill effects is plain ludicrous to me.  It's wasn't fair to blame the Beatles for one's planned race war, it's wasn't fair to blame Judas Priest for your attempted suicide, and it's not fair to blame Grand Theft Auto or any other game on your violent acts.  Entertainment in all of it's forms are a reflection of our culture.  If you dislike the negatives and the violence, perhaps it's time to look at the source of it all.  However, stop blaming peripheral issues for the ills of society.  That isn't going to work despite how much sensationalist journalists in the media try to pick it up.  It's easy to blame, but it's harder to tackle the real issue and solve the problems.  A broken family unit or abusive home, mental illness, crime, perennial war culture, and poverty have all contributed more to societal violence than Pacman and Mario- even those other topics deserve more than a perfunctory glance before being labelled as the problem as there are so many variables worth taking into account.  If you don't want to report it or take on the real issues, fine, but stop trying to find a scapegoat for your societies flaws when you aren't actually trying to solve anything other than your ratings dilemma.

I don't know, but this report tonight pissed me off and needed to rant.  Plus,  I'd love to hear other perspectives. What say you? 
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Flan

The media is the cause and solution to the problem. Overall crime rates in the US is at a 65% low when compared to 1993 but reporting, especially in mass murder incidents, is up because no crime news = less ratings. (Zimmerman trial anyone?)

So to make themselves look useful media tries to blame something be it games, military look semi auto rifles, standard capacity magazines for said rifles, "troubled youth," mental illness, high capacity beverages [cough, NYC], oh and occasionally the criminal themselves. Because there has to be a reason behind things, right?

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/08/robert-farago/no-one-could-have-predicted-ga-school-shooter-oh-wait/

So the media causes the sheeple to on one hand beg for more protection while on the other hand want a quick fix (ban something) that everyone knows doesn't work but doesn't want to address the real problems (war on some drugs, racism, poverty (minimum wage isn't livable wage), the education system, mental health treatment options).

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/08/daniel-zimmerman/when-the-fear-of-crime-is-more-dangerous-than-the-crime-itself/
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Cindy

I won't comment on the USA situation but we have had a couple of particularly violent and nasty murders here by people on parole. In my mind and most peoples minds it is clear that they should never have been on parole. In all of the cases the murderer/rapist/torturer has not taken responsibility, rather they have blamed the system for letting them out so that they could act on their uncontrollable urges. In sentencing they all asked for a parole period to be set because they now understood the gravity of what they did and want a 10th chance, otherwise they will give way to despair.

Mmmm
I don't agree with the death penalty, but I do agree with throwing away the keys and solitary confinement for life.
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Taka

i disagree with both death penalty and confinement for life. 21 years has been the maximum in norway for a long time, and i don't want any terrorist exception laws that can confine someone for 30 years just because he killed more people than that other guy. murder is murder as i see it, and since every life is invaluable, there shouldn't be any difference between one or a hundred lives. level of cruelty and calculation should count though.

the police has more than enough resources to keep track of innocent citizens' every single move, every problem with letting killers out would be solved if they used their resources a little smarter. i mean, why not start monitoring people who you know are likely to commit a crime... lock them up again as soon as they acquire a weapon. no point monitoring a communist who fights for peaceful revolution, they won't kill anyone.

and society should start doing something differently soon, or everything will just get worse. i'm not a believer in capitalism at all, it only leads to high unemployment rates, which leads to more crime. etc.
society should also stop blaming rather irrelevant factors (which might be symptoms, but no more than that) if they want people to take responsibility for their actions. how stupid isn't it to give the criminals a good excuse so they never need to reflect upon their actions.
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Jayne

I agree that society should take responsibility & stop blaming games but I also believe that the gaming companies should take some of this burden. GTA IV's free roam mode was infested with children, me & my friends would be playing an adult game & having adult discusions when all fo a sudden a child would shout down their headset for us to "shut the **** up!!"
I find it shocking that the parents allow them to play adult games & just as shocking that the console & game manufacturers don't police their own servers to enforce age ratings.

The media should be used to educate parents instead of being used to blame games for every crime!
As in these cases:

Years ago in the UK the papers erupted with the news about the "manhunt murder" a young teenager was killed by his 17yr old friend who used a hammer, the tabloids said it was a copycat murder as the murderer crept up from behind & used a hammer "just like manhunt", i've payed the game & there is no hammer in it.
Over the next few months it turned out that the victims mother had bought the 18 rated game for her son & allowed someone elses underage son play the game.
It then emerged that the murder was gang/drug related, why should the media let a few facts get in the way of selling a few more papers?

A man was mugged on the night of the GTAV release but if you do a google search for GTAV headlines in the UK you'd get the impression that his mugging was due to him buying GTAV & the mugger had obviously turned to mugging due to playing GTA.

I have a very strong distrust of the UK media, facts are like fairy dust to them
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Danielle Emmalee

Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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kelly_aus

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Cindy

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Tessa James

That "external locus of control" concept seems to feature in a lot of blame games.  "You made me mad"  Dang, i was only trying to make you a little crazy.

Seriously, I can't handle the vivid violence of some games.  It feels like a ptsd trigger.  I take responsibility by never playing.  More fun to gather with friends and play cards, dominos, ping pong or pool.

 

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