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Is it really that easy to date another trans person?

Started by Brandon, September 15, 2013, 01:44:11 PM

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Brandon

I was looking at some of the answers for FTM/MTF dating and alot of people said it was easier, Know personally I pefer cis women and love everything about them, I just believe any relationship has problems, And two people with Gender dysphoria is a to me a headace waiting to happen, I mean I'm just curious how do you figure? I can understand the they understand you better thing but, I'd rather some who is cis try to understand me because it would make me feel so much better, I mean yea.... other trans people get it sure but I know some cis women who are also trying to understand me which is possible thats called step in my shoes
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kaiju

I've dated other trans men, and a trans woman before. While two people with gender dysphoria can grate on each other, I can't say for sure if it's more difficult than a relationship with a cis person. In those relationships, I felt more comfortable saying things like "Look I can't go out and be social, I'm dysphoric and can't deal with people" and for the most part that was accepted. It was harder with most of the cis people I've dated, simply because they didn't see why dysphoria would hinder some of my social activities outside of work. While I did have one girl who understood, the rest were just kind of weird about it.

With relationships, you can't be too general. What won't work for you could work for another couple, etc. Not everyone is the same, you know? You have to look at these things from an individual perspective. My previous relationships ended mostly due to other issues(distance, change of interests, etc), nothing to do with my gender dysphoria. If you don't think you can handle being in a relationship with someone who is trans, then don't go there. No one is forcing you. You choose who you date, etc.
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Brandon

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Exus




It's possible. While I haven't dated an mtf, I would if I could but atm I have a serious cis gf who understands me 100% than any other female I dated.
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mrs izzy

I dated and married a transman. We been now married 7 years.

It has been full of ups and downs with the dysphoria things when they are in conflict with each other (can not stand our bodies). The other side of the coin it has been great. Having someone who will never judge you or hold the TG over your head.

It can be a great thing, but its like any relationship it comes down to respect.

Izzy

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Exus

Quote from: mind is quiet now on September 15, 2013, 02:52:06 PM
I dated and married a transman. We been now married 7 years.

It has been full of ups and downs with the dysphoria things when they are in conflict with each other (can not stand our bodies). The other side of the coin it has been great. Having someone who will never judge you or hold the TG over your head.

It can be a great thing, but its like any relationship it comes down to respect.

Izzy

That's really nice, I hope you guys have many more years to come!  :laugh:
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Brandon

Quote from: mind is quiet now on September 15, 2013, 02:52:06 PM
I dated and married a transman. We been now married 7 years.

It has been full of ups and downs with the dysphoria things when they are in conflict with each other (can not stand our bodies). The other side of the coin it has been great. Having someone who will never judge you or hold the TG over your head.

It can be a great thing, but its like any relationship it comes down to respect.

Izzy



Well I feel like anybody including cisgenders can be fully understanding it just takes patience
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kaiju

Sure they can, and all the more power to them if they want to learn and be a supportive partner. Some trans folks just tend to gravitate towards each other, though, and that's okay too.
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Brandon

Quote from: kaiju on September 15, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
Sure they can, and all the more power to them if they want to learn and be a supportive partner. Some trans folks just tend to gravitate towards each other, though, and that's okay too.



Yea they do, And it is ok, I'm just saying don't rule out cis folks because its difficult to understand and not something anyone can just get, Alot of transfolks have to take that in mind
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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kaiju

I never said I personally ruled out cis folks??? Never thought I would have to say this, but wow okay here it goes. While I'm not keen on dating other trans people, I haven't shut myself off to the possibility. I can understand why they would want to avoid dating a cis person, too. Yes, people can be understanding or open to learning, but you also need to remember that being a trans person in a world that's ultimately hostile towards you is unnerving. You take a big gamble by coming out to someone or by putting yourself on the dating market. Someone can be kind to your face, hell, maybe you have a decent relationship. And then it goes sour for whatever reason.

That person holds a very dangerous piece of information about you in their hands. Someone with integrity would let go and keep your personal details to themselves, but this is still a person we're talking about. People are flawed and can choose to do incredibly messed up things if they feel they've been wronged. When emotionally wounded, humans will react with venom. Knowing they have something against the person that hurt them, they will likely choose to use this information to "get back" at their ex, etc. It seems like harmless relationship drama until the trans person is assaulted or - god forbid - killed because that information fell into the wrong hands.

Of course not all cis people are like that, and I've seen this kind of situation happen between trans couples as well, but it's a very valid fear and often the reason why a trans person will go out of their way to avoid romantic relationships with cis people. Sometimes it's just easier to not have to ~explain~ or to educate someone. Educating people is exhausting. If you don't have to spend a lot of time being the trans poster child, it can be better for your mental well being and promote a healthy relationship.

I don't take issue with someone wanting to clean up their dating pool to feel safer. Not all cis people are a threat or dangerous, but again, I understand why other trans people would want to avoid entangling themselves in relationships with them if they can.

That being said, I also find it equally unhealthy to only seek out someone because they're trans or cis(this is also directed at cis people who straight up chase or avoid trans people). You strip away the person beneath the label and avoid looking at who they are on the basis that "[cis/trans] people are more attractive/safer/better people to me" and that is not fair to the other party. Ultimately, you'll date who you want to date, but I still find the way people act when they're looking for a partner to be unsettling. It screams a lot about a person if they will go out of their way to say "TRANS/CIS PEOPLE ONLY".
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Brandon

To me it's know different from telling your significate other you have an STD though, But I personally pefer cis women, I don't think I could date another trans person to much for me
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Exus

Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 04:25:48 PM
To me it's know different from telling your significate other you have an STD though, But I personally pefer cis women, I don't think I could date another trans person to much for me

Don't limit yourself to "Cis females" only, there's many mtf out there who are just as women as any cis female. Plus you won't know how it goes until you try it, so never say never and no I'm not a JB fan.
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Brandon

Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
Don't limit yourself to "Cis females" only, there's many mtf out there who are just as women as any cis female. Plus you won't know how it goes until you try it, so never say never and no I'm not a JB fan.


That's what I like bro, I always have loved the female body, I wouldn't date a transgender woman personally, More power to any other guy who does though, And I'm gonna keep it real because that's the type of guy I am I couldn't get past the male parts and how she used to be biologically male, And I can understand some straight cis women may feel the same way but their are alot that don't
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Brandon

Quote from: androidnick on September 15, 2013, 04:41:20 PM
Dude did you just compare being trans to an std? An std is something that in most cases can be avoided if you are safe. Being trans isn't an accident. So kind of bad example


The explaining part you have to explain both, It's all in how you explain being trans
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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aleon515

Well they are people just like us. And it could be not so good or great depending. A lot of the young trans girls have been on blockers. So that makes a huge difference. I dated a trans woman for about 8 months or so. We never actually broke up but I think I have started transitioning and so I look more male, so we are drifting apart a bit.  She does not pass quite as well. Anyway we had a great time and she did not complain or any other behaviors I don't care for. And has a wicked sense of humor. I guess I am more of a person who values someoen for who they are and their personality. I didn't find her experiences triggering or anything. I think she has more family stuff going on and I had more body dysphoria so issues are not always the same. Since I am really active in the trans community, trans people are who I am most likely to meet. Just the way it is for me. It's a little harder for guys my age to date anyway.


--Jay
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Exus

Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2013, 05:31:44 PM

That's what I like bro, I always have loved the female body, I wouldn't date a transgender woman personally, More power to any other guy who does though, And I'm gonna keep it real because that's the type of guy I am I couldn't get past the male parts and how she used to be biologically male, And I can understand some straight cis women may feel the same way but their are alot that don't


I guess that's just your belief and you're entitled to it but you what you just said (bold) - dude..just wow. That's shallow.
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Rossiter

I think it's fair enough if someone doesn't want to date a person with a penis (or vagina), regardless of their gender. If they're post-op that's more questionable...but you only have so much control over who you're attracted to.

So far I've only dated cis people. I'd date someone trans, but only if they were well into their transition/emotionally stable and everything. A lot of people just starting transition really want to talk about things like gender identity and the transition process all the time, and I would get quite bored with it. Or if they were having panic attacks over going outside, or were full of self-loathing...I'm definitely not the person to be dealing with that.
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Brandon

Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:01:36 PM

I guess that's just your belief and you're entitled to it but you what you just said (bold) - dude..just wow. That's shallow.





Well would you want me to lie and say I'm fine with it knowing I'm not, I also want biological children would you call that shallow
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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Danielle Emmalee

Quote from: Exus on September 15, 2013, 06:01:36 PM

I guess that's just your belief and you're entitled to it but you what you just said (bold) - dude..just wow. That's shallow.

I think a large majority of people have at least one shallow expectation for their choice in partners, physical sex and/or gender presentation being a very common one (I'd guess about 99% of monosexual people).  I don't think there's anything wrong about it either.  If you are attracted to women and there's a woman that you are 100% attracted to based on personality alone, if she looks 100% male, you are being shallow if you can't look past it.  The majority of physical transition is in itself a shallow pursuit as its based on appearance, yet 99% of the people on Susan's want to do it.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'd like to make it clear that I don't think being shallow is a bad thing, so this is not intended to be insulting in any way.
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Brandon

Quote from: Rossiter on September 15, 2013, 06:26:09 PM
I think it's fair enough if someone doesn't want to date a person with a penis (or vagina), regardless of their gender. If they're post-op that's more questionable...but you only have so much control over who you're attracted to.

So far I've only dated cis people. I'd date someone trans, but only if they were well into their transition/emotionally stable and everything. A lot of people just starting transition really want to talk about things like gender identity and the transition process all the time, and I would get quite bored with it. Or if they were having panic attacks over going outside, or were full of self-loathing...I'm definitely not the pers



on to be dealing with that.



I feel you that's what I'm saying
keep working hard and you can get anything you want.    -Aaliyah
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