Dawn, Like I mentioned in the prior post to cassie. I am in agreement with her, you and so on about what a TS is. It is a male or female bodied person who seeks and desires to live full time in female or male mind and body. I was very well known for that opinion for years here. I have no problem with that definition.
The problem I have with this truth in such conversations these days is that all such conversations led to in my experience with this site was that it cause a lot of heat, frustration and further arguments on this site. As a matter of fact, I myself was permanantly banned for around a year and a half from this site because of all the trouble I caused with some of my statements on this matter. These days, the site is heavily visited by TS's were as then it was mostly CD's and so now is more easy to make such statements and not disrupt the flow of the site and occassionally people do it.
Point being is that this is a support site, and although I myself am in total disagreement with persons calling themselves woman when all they are is a male in a dress but don't like to be called that, so I believe that if someone has an opinion then yes, it should be stated and talked about, but it should not be discussed in such a way as to belittle or take down those who do not take the TRUE TS desire and need. TS's are so totally different from TG types but we are simply gpomg tp have to grin and bear that fact or find a site that is totally for TS and tell anyone who is not they can't join. I can remember off susans discussions about such a thing often enough, but there is no way we can prove TS or not in this kind of environment so how to do it?.
I simply wish we could not publically discuss such issues here in public because there are people here who have thier own needs which I or others don't understand and don't visit or hang out with in public. There is always PM or IM/email for such things. Meanwhile in public, we can state our views and not create emotional problems for others we can not help or identify with.
MELISSA: Don't even worry about Pre-op aand TS differences. I think we have established that most TS's hold the belief that it is all one and the same, a person wishing and willing to have HRT and SRS to become Women and to live as women and only as women for the rest of thier lives. If you are able to go into and complete the necessary cycle to do this, be happy for your own work to do so and consider whatever you like about those who don't fit into your own desires.
And I mean that to everybody
Terri