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Started by Ltl89, September 21, 2013, 09:44:54 PM

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BunnyBee

Idk, that makes my head spin lol, but I think it works both ways?  Or maybe you're right.   Let's go with that :)
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KabitTarah

Quote from: tmarina on September 27, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
isn'it the other way?

reality - expectation = (Net) happiness

As in the normal equation of economics

Assets - Liabilities = Net value

Assets is what you have (your genetics, your history, your Disphoria)

Liabilities is howyou judge those things.

If you judge them too badly the liability is big and your net value is negative.

Marina

That gives us happiness + expectation = reality... it's causal, so that doesn't really work.

I think it needs to be
dH/dt + dE/dt = dR/dt
change in happiness + change in expectations = change in reality

Which makes sense... as reality meets expectation, happiness remains constant.

Everyone should ignore this derailment, though... I'm talking from my opposite end right now! (Which just reminds me it needs shaving... hate shaving there)
~ Tarah ~

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BunnyBee

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Sephirah

Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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KabitTarah

Quote from: Joules on September 27, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
to assume a differential status is to expect rapid change, I'd think a simple delta formula would be more appropriate and desireable <Joules running away>

That assumes a micro scale! Happiness is big... reality is huge... expectations are inflated ;) their half lives are enormous.
~ Tarah ~

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anjaq

Quote from: learningtolive on September 27, 2013, 07:31:50 AM
I"m really concerned about if I will ever pass to "myself".  Yes, I see myself as female and identify as such, but I know I can't ever match the natural feminine traits of genetic girls.  To me, it's horrible to know that I will always be more masculine than they are in some respects. [.....] my jealousy of other girls is through the roof and has increased in a big way.[....]This is why my therapist feels I need to get over my idealized self and develop a sense of internal trans pride to overcome these pestering concerns which plague and paralyse me.
I totally understand and can relate. Honestly me and probably many others do have such issues that you look into the mirror and see this or that thing that looks in your eyes "really male-ish" and then maybe even your whole visual self image breaks down and you just think that what you see in the mirror looks overall a lot more like a guy and then you are either crying, biting your tonge and still go out there or focus on your inner self and manage to get rid of that bad self image  for the time being - until next time. Sometimes I think this is totally irrational and concerns party of your face or body that are not even that "male-ish" at all but just has not changed with transition at all and thus is considered by your mind as male looking, or one over-exxagarates some flaw or the other (i liked that story in the post about the great self-built log cabins that all have some small flaw - cant find it right now).
Passing to oneself is quite hard i think. In part because of those parts that just did not change with transition so these are still the same old while one desires a transformation, a rebirth. I dont really honestly know how to solve this or deal with it, as I still have such moments 15 years after beginning transition to the point I consider looking into some ways to get rid of these traits now. I am not sure if that will work - if it is my own ghosts, I cannot chase them away that way.
I am not sure "trans pride" is the right word - in a way yes - I am a bit proud or rather thankful of all the changes that I experienced and how I contributed to that - so I guess that may be "internal trans pride". During transition I was always glad to be seen as female and recognized and that was always a win but at some point this is not working anymore. At that pooint one does not want to think about passing anymore, just live and be and not be "read" at all because one does not want really to think about trans issues anymore. For you that is still a while away I think, so in early transition, I think one really should and can focus on the good experiences and not yet take them for granted. But yes in the long run ones expectations rise. Like for me being openly misgendered twice in one month this year was a huge downer bringing me to the point that I actually reconsider my earlier decisions against VFS and FFS.

One major thing that I believe is happening is that we see flaws in our bodies and appearance as male. We basically think that all that makes us ugly in a way is because we were born XY. So when other girls are just jealous or envious about girls more beautiful or feminine than they are and fret about not having that nice nose or those full lips, for us it is not just that, but it is also the thought that we have that bigger nose because we are born XY and that smaller lips because we had too much T during puberty and so on. For the other girls it is just about that trait - for us it is in addition to that about our identity!


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Aina

LtL, I think you will be fine. It is just another step to take and each step will lead you to what you seek!
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Violet Bloom

I always enjoy it when the inner-math geek of the members here is released! ;)

...Now does anyone have the formula for eternal life?

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KabitTarah

Quote from: Violet Bloom on September 28, 2013, 12:45:29 PM
I always enjoy it when the inner-math geek of the members here is released! ;)

...Now does anyone have the formula for eternal life?

Find the geneticists and bio-therapists! They'll fix your gender issues, too!
~ Tarah ~

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Danielle Emmalee

Quote from: Violet Bloom on September 28, 2013, 12:45:29 PM
I always enjoy it when the inner-math geek of the members here is released! ;)

...Now does anyone have the formula for eternal life?

The formula for eternal life is contained within Pi.  You just have to know where to look ;)
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Ltl89

Forgive me for being a rambling mess and for taking so much time to respond.  Honestly, I've tried to type this post out a few times and have broke down in tears and ran away from it.  So expect a messy post.

There is truth to reining in my expectations, but there is more to it.  Believe me, I'm no single issue girl,lol.  Honestly, I don't expect certain things to change, even if I wish they could.  I realize that my hands and feet will remain bigger than your average female as well as my 5'11 height.  Despite that, I don't think passing will be as bad as I fear.  You know me, I have a tendency to see the worst in everything.  Despite my annoyances with the timeframe of hrt, I think I have potential.  It's probable that with enough time and effort, I'll likely be okay if I can overcome my fear.   If not, a small dose of ffs will easily fix my slight concerns.  The thing is, it's not just about "passing" or what my expectations are.  It's about the fact that I'll never be able to rid my appearance of some of the more masculine traits that I hate.  Yeah, not everything can or will go away (nor do I expect it to), but it makes me feel uncomfortable.  And even though there are other girls my height and with bigger hands, it really destroys me. Truthfully, I don't know if I can ever feel good about myself whilst knowing there are some things that will remain.  It drives me crazy (it's all I can think about lately).  It may be stubborn, but it really does bother me.  I just want to see the real me in the mirror I'm sitting here listening to Christina Augilera's "Reflection" and just crying and feeling destroyed.  That song is the story of my life because I don't believe I will ever see my reflection or will get to be who I am or at least want to be.   I just hope that the more I feminize, the less I will care about the things I can't change.  Still, I don't know if that's possible and wonder if I will ever feel happy with myself because of this.

Yet there is even more to the story.  There have been some things I've been ignoring and there is a psychological aspect worth looking into.  See, there is a part of me that really doesn't know if I will ever pass to myself.   While everyone is worried about passing to the world (myself included) we rarely discuss our potential to pass to ourselves.   You have to realize that I have a very poor self image and it's something that has plagued me my whole life.   My dysphoria is a big part of this, but it is more than that.  While I know in my heart of hearts that I am female and want nothing more than to live as one, I don't know how well I can operate as one.  I've always been an outsider as a transgirl.  Never fitting in.  I was different from all the girls and always had intense jealousy of them.  But as much as I want to be one and feel like one, I don't know how well I will be able to fit in.  There is a post on this site that really spoke to me about feeling authentic and true to oneself.  Fact is, I don't know how authentic I can feel even if my trans feelings are clearly there.  At the end of the day, can I ever become just another girl?  Will I be able to live a normal life as female and do everything that they can?  Or will I always be the odd girl out socially and physically speaking?  Even if I am accepted, can I ever truly embrace this myself on a mental level?  Will I ever be able to come to terms with all of my fears and make things work?  This is really up in the air for me.  It's not always about passing to everyone else, it's also about embracing ourselves.  This has been a difficult thing for me my whole life.  I can't explain it, but I hated always being different.  As a girl, I was clearly not the same.  As a "boy", I was seen as a weird gay guy and got bullied and harassed for that.  One of the reasons I get scared to embrace my feminine side is because of my negative experiences.  And even when I try to hide it behind my stoic persona, which I try desperately, I fail pretty bad for the most part.  So, again I couldn't blend into either gender role for obvious reasons.  Besides that, I was always physically different from both sexes.  It's obvious why I was different than other girls, but I wasn't alike many of the guys either.  Please don't ask me to elaborate on this because it is very sensitive, but I have lived with a genital defect for a good portion of my life that was very painful emotionally and sometimes physically.  Thanks to having a surgery, it's no longer a factor, but I'll always remember feeling very different from everyone.  I suppose that only added to my body dysphoria and feelings of being an outsider.   What I'm trying to say is I don't know if I will ever "fit in" as female.  I couldn't as male, nor did I really care too, but I don't know if it's possible as female either.  Part of the reason that I seek to transition is for a sense of normalcy in my life.  Yet, sometimes I don't know how successful my life will be as female.  There is so much physically and mentally that I might not be able to change or overcome.  This is why I really feel jealous of all the other girls and just wish I could be like them  It kills me. Again, transitioning is really what I want and I'd love to get through all these feelings, but my baggage will come with my journey.  While I am not stopping, I just don't know how to get over these feelings and make the transition a successful one.

Sorry for being such a mess.  I have so many concerns and issues that I am facing at the moment, so I'm probably jumping all over the place.   Like I said before, I'm no hero or role model. 
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Marina mtf

Hello LTL,

I am not going to write a long answer but your story is really touching; I sympathize with
your fear of not passing to yourself, but I think that this is not gender-related.

Before gender there is "being", you cannot be female or male if you do not exist, existence is
before gender and THIS is the thing that seems a problem for you... you will not solve any
problems transitioning if you don't come up at peace with yourself, whichever gender you may choose
to express (male, female,both, none).

Acceptance is the key, you have to find that inner peace, the place where all ramblings will cease,
the deep waters where the waves are not felt. But this is not gender... this is meditation, spirituality,
therapy, self-love.

my 2cents.


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Heather

Quote from: learningtolive on September 28, 2013, 02:53:20 PM
Sorry for being such a mess.  I have so many concerns and issues that I am facing at the moment, so I'm probably jumping all over the place.   Like I said before, I'm no hero or role model.
Girl your not a mess so get that out of your head. As far as passing to yourself that is something I think a lot of us deal with I don't really know if I pass to myself yet? When I look in the mirror I don't see a man anymore but I don't see a woman all the way yet either but I know I will someday because I do see her in the mirror more and more often. You'll get there it just takes time and patience.
Your still very much early in this and hormones can have their way with you if you let them. Just hang in there it does get better I had a rough time to early on I learned how to handle my emotions and so will you.
Your just going to have to realize your not a mess and everybody has problems and imperfections. And as far as you feeling like you don't fit in with other trans women I understand you completely on that I kinda feel like I don't fit in that well either. But I've never felt like I fit in anywhere anyways. The main thing is just be yourself and don't worry about how well you fit in.   ;)
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A

I think you should stop worrying so much about the future. I used to, only to realize the pointlessness of it. As I went full-time and started to be treated like a girl, I noticed things to be just naturally getting better, that I was fitting in just fine. Now of course I'm still in a semi-artificial environment with only people who knew me before, but I just feel even more comfortable if I end up in a situation where people don't know about that.

Most of that was just pointless anticipation and anxiety, as usual.

Just focus on worrying about what you're going to do now, and on coping with the present. Focus on the next step, not the one behind it or further. 95 % of the future will work itself out without you needing to think about it, and you can deal with the remaniing 5 % when you get there.

I know it's hard to do. If you're even just a bit like me, you're gonna want to pre-imagine every part of everything and make sure everything is gonna be perfect before you even take a step forward. But try to. It'll save you a lot of pain, tears, worries and fatigue.
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KabitTarah

Quote from: learningtolive on September 28, 2013, 02:53:20 PM
Forgive me for being a rambling mess and for taking so much time to respond.  Honestly, I've tried to type this post out a few times and have broke down in tears and ran away from it.  So expect a messy post.

...

Sorry for being such a mess.  I have so many concerns and issues that I am facing at the moment, so I'm probably jumping all over the place.   Like I said before, I'm no hero or role model.

You sound like you could use a girlfriend (BFF, that is) or two to help affirm who you really are... a beautiful young woman who just needs some love.

I don't know your current situation, (I've been reading this, but I get confused off all the threads) but can you find some open people around your age who will be friendly? I admit, I don't know how to do this. College was where I met people... everything else was family. My sister, brother, and his wife are great support, and I try not to load too much on them at once.

I'm also interested in learning to find friends, again. My sister is totally awesome, but has little time for 1-on-1 time (I'm aiming for once a month). I won't be able to do much of this until my wife and I are separated, though... and I have no idea how! I'll be on HRT by then, though.

I know and understand how you write such long posts.... this was supposed to be short and to the point! Sorry! ^-^
~ Tarah ~

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Sephirah

First of all, hon, if I could give you a big hug right now, I would. You sound like you need one.

Secondly, I haven't commented in this thread because I've been watching how it unfolds and how you express yourself.

I don't really want to say too much just yet, because mostly I'm going on intuition and a gut feeling, but I would like to ask you a question, if that's okay.

How much of your self esteem and self confidence do you think stems from your identity as female?
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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BunnyBee

/hugs

You are early days in your transition LTL, your worries about passing to yourself will take care of themselves down the line, especially after you are full-time for a while.  You will find that you will fit into female circles and be accepted by other women as one of them, and that will help you see yourself as female better, as will when you look in the mirror and see a girl looking back at you.  Dysphoria may cause some BDD, and you may not always see it, but it will happen more and more with time.

The more you accept yourself as female, the more other people will see you that way too.  The trick is *wanting* and being cognizant of how to fit in with girls.  You have those two things I think, so I think you will be fine.  Yes, you're bigger than a lot of women, but like you said, there are some bigger than you.  Tall girls have big(ish) hands and feet too, btw.  You can't judge how any of this will go two months into HRT and not having ever even tried going out as a girl.  It's easy, when you sit at the stage where you haven't seen much evidence that things will be fine, to worry that it won't be.

I have a similar personality to you, I will always be my biggest critic, and how people think about me is one of the most important things I know of, and I just want to tell you that it will be fine.  You will get there, you just need to hang on.  Being trans takes tenacity and strength and I often talk about how I am so the wrong person to have to deal with this condition.  I am not a strong person at all.  Yet I did it, and I know you will too.  I also know you won't believe me till you see for yourself.  Hang in there, keep making progress, don't let yourself be defeated, and it WILL happen.
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Ltl89

Quote from: kabit on September 28, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
You sound like you could use a girlfriend (BFF, that is) or two to help affirm who you really are... a beautiful young woman who just needs some love.

I don't know your current situation, (I've been reading this, but I get confused off all the threads) but can you find some open people around your age who will be friendly? I admit, I don't know how to do this. College was where I met people... everything else was family. My sister, brother, and his wife are great support, and I try not to load too much on them at once.

I'm also interested in learning to find friends, again. My sister is totally awesome, but has little time for 1-on-1 time (I'm aiming for once a month). I won't be able to do much of this until my wife and I are separated, though... and I have no idea how! I'll be on HRT by then, though.

I know and understand how you write such long posts.... this was supposed to be short and to the point! Sorry! ^-^


I have friends, but they are few in number and quite busy.  Besides I don't want to be a bother and throw this stuff on them. However, I am fairly shy and would love new friends.  I wish I could find more girls my age to socialize with, but I'm afraid to get out and expose myself.  Hopefully in the future.

Quote from: Sephirah on September 28, 2013, 05:49:27 PM
First of all, hon, if I could give you a big hug right now, I would. You sound like you need one.

Secondly, I haven't commented in this thread because I've been watching how it unfolds and how you express yourself.

I don't really want to say too much just yet, because mostly I'm going on intuition and a gut feeling, but I would like to ask you a question, if that's okay.

How much of your self esteem and self confidence do you think stems from your identity as female?

To be honest, I have hardly any self confidence or self esteem; therefore, I can't really answer the question.   Nonetheless, I will make an attempt.  I'm giving you a long answer in hope that it will explain who I am and how I feel.  Plus, I want to do whatever I can to help anyone else struggling.

My identity as female has always been a source of comfort and pain.  It's never been one or the other.   As a child, I really enjoyed my gender bending.  I loved dressing up, playing with makeup and experimenting.  My earlier childhood was almost bigender in some respects, but as I got older, I was encouraged to stop these things.  When I turned the age of 10, I began to feel frustrated and awkward.  I began to compare myself to my female peers and began to believe that I was going down the wrong path.  This is when I realized that I  really wanted to be more like a girl and actually become one.  At this point, I would never have said I "was one" because I knew nothing about being trans.  Therefore, I began to dress independently and in secret.   It was a big source of comfort during a period of jealousy and sadness when I started to realize how different I was and how I wished I could be female.

However, it's also been a source of pain.  I hated the fact that I was different and seen as a freak in the eye's of god (very Catholic upbringing).  Clearly, it's not normal for a 10 year old "boy" to wear "his" sister's clothes in secret.  Most people get to be normal and not worry about their gender.  When I was a teenager, I got very depressed.  I made it a point to isolate myself and hide away as much as possible.  I really didn't want to make friends with most of the guys because I didn't relate and besides I was bullied often by jokes and the like.  As for the girls, I was completely different from them despite my desire to be one and join them socially speaking.  To be honest, I didn't know how to socialize.  It felt fake to try to be a typical guy and it felt unnatural for me to want to be female and attempting to embrace those feelings.  In many ways, I hated myself for having those desires and did my best to suppress them.  I avoided dressing up, but would occasionally do so in private.  Partly, I withdrew from socializing as much as possible and hid within myself.  I found other ways to express myself  outside of facing myself and putting the potential rejection of others (mainly music and unfortunately  the occasional usage of drugs).  In many ways, my ability to express myself could only come out in song, never in my words (besides poems and lyrics).

After high school, I began to embrace my feelings a bit more.  I learned more about the lgbt community and felt comfortable embracing my attraction to guys despite my long fear of admitting it.  However, I knew saying I was gay was a lie.  In some respects, being gay allows more liberties to express oneself in a feminine manner, but it clearly isn't the solution for someone who identifies as trans.  After some brutal honesty and exposing myself to the trans community, I came to admit that I didn't want to be a girl, but I was really a girl.  I started to feel more at ease and comfortable with the fact that I was trans.  A big part of this was that I made a trans friend and saw that she was able to live a happy and successful life.  At this point in my life (19-20 years old), I started to embrace my identity and expressing myself around friends.  My best friends where aware of my identity and always called me the correct name (at the time Jenny) and pronouns.  It's was lovely in many ways and there was less pressure on me.  Still, I had so much guilt and self hatred that I couldn't allow myself to make the final step and overcome my social anxiety and fears.  As much as I wanted to transition and made small steps to prepare myself, I wasn't ready.  I had a bit of a breakdown and decided to not transition.  At this point,  I went into denial mode.  I cut my hair, stopped wearing my more fashionable designer clothes and took up a more business causal look, took up as many activities in college, did volunteer work outside of it,  and absorbed myself in my studies.  For this reason, I did really great in school and was very proud of it.  I was respected by many of my professors and had the jealousy of some of my peers.  Yet, I was never happy with myself on a personal level or fulfilled socially. I still hated myself and regretted the fact that my internal desires never went aways despite my efforts to ignore them.  In many ways, I was finding things to do to take my mind off of myself and my feelings, but it wasn't working.  Whenever I had down time, I would crash pretty hard.  At this point, I found bad ways of dealing with the pain rather than addressing them. 

After college, I worked a very busy job.  I loved it and was quite good at it.  It was in my field and exciting for someone that graduated with my major.  But as it was a temp job,  it came to an end.  This is where my rock bottom was reached.  Unemployed and riddled with dysphoria, I tried to cope with opiates.  I kept hoping some of the promises made to me would come true and I'd have another busy job to absorb myself in, but I never got anything.  As a result, I was depressed and down for multiple reasons and continued my self destruction to avoid feeling.  I just didn't want to feel anything and focus on my demons.  I simply wanted another distraction and way too take my mind off of the pain.  So, I spent 4 months getting high every day.  Wasting my potential and throwing all my ambitions out the door.  I can't say exactly when I reached my epiphany, but I had enough.  I knew I had to stop destroying myself and find a way to reach true happiness instead of avoiding it.  I gave up the drugs, started searching for a job, and began to take the steps to begin my transition.  As of now, I'm happy to be on the hormones.  Each day that I develop is another good day.  Yet, my life still hasn't taken off and I still have the same fears.  Things have improved in my life (I'm 7 months clean, on hormones, in therapy, will be working as soon) but the transition that I wanted and desired is on standstill. It's soo slow and it kills me to continue living another day without the ability to truly embrace myself.  In many ways, I'm delaying it as much as possible as I did in the past, but I'm killing myself as a result.  I don't know how to overcome this and spend most of my time wasting my day away (when I am not studying or reading) to avoid thinking about this stuff.

In many ways, I'm still that little kid wearing her sister's clothes and looking in the mirror.  Desperately wanting to be something, but afraid of rejection from society and worst of all herself.   And without knowing how to overcome this, she crys and latches onto misery, only finding alternative ways to express the things she always wished she could get out.   At heart I'm still that 11 year old girl, not knowing what to do and where to go.   She may be grown up (I'm 24) and more experienced, but she's still just looking into the mirror not knowing how to be herself and live the life she dreams about.  So, my gender is very much a mixture of pain and comfort.  I like being a girl and enjoy being seen and treated as one.  However, I hate being trans and always feeling the pressures and fears that come with it.  The fact is I don't like being trans even though I don't mind feeling female.

Besides my gender, I get a lot of self esteem through others.  I really like to help other people and be a part in their development.  Most of my work and volunteer experience has had me in a mentor or peer leadership role.   I've had so many roles where it was my responsibility to help others and motivate them to improve or learn a new task or subject.   As such, I get great pride for assisting others and watching them succeed.   It's something I've always been good at and makes me feel happy. Sadly, I've never know how to help myself and find myself fumbling everytime I do try.  It's not that I don't have the answers, but I fear them.  This is probably why I give so much of myself here.  I truly want to help others and in the process help myself.  Despite my lack of ability to save myself, I do have something to give others because I realize what the answers are even if I refuse to accept them for myself and fear working on these things. 

I'm rambling at this point, but this is perhaps the best explanation I can give.  Hope it helps.

P.S. I've always loved your writing style and the thought you behind your posts.  Just wanted to say that I admire you and think you're an excellent Moderator. 

@Jen, A, and Heather.

Thank you for you encouragement.  All three of you have been very sweet to me throughout my time on this board.  I do appreciate it and it means a lot.  As for the content of your posts, I agree that much of what you say is probably true.  If I were rational, I would embrace those posts as I would probably say the same to another poster myself.  Yet, I am not able to embrace logic at the moment and have allowed fear to overtake me.  I hope I'll find a way to overcome it and find happiness. 


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Sephirah

Your post does actually shed a lot of light upon why you feel the way you do, hon. More than I'd hoped for, to be honest. Thank you, sincerely. And for the kind words, too. I see some of myself in you.

Rather than tell you what I think (you get enough of that here, lol), I would like to ask you another question. And... it may be a difficult one to consider, much less answer. But also it may... hmm... just shut up and ask it, Seph.

Do you think it's possible that, the anxiety you have about passing and actually having the opportunity to integrate fully as your true self... well... do you think a part of that stems not from the idea that you won't pass as female, or be accepted as such... but that your past coping methods have left an effect on you to where you're scared that not achieving these things will... hmm, how to put it... will feel like you tried everything and it wasn't enough for you? That it has to be all or nothing and you feel like this is a culmination of everything you can possibly do to make your life be the way you want it to be?

I don't know if that makes any sense. I guess what I'm asking is that whether the fear is more of a fear of failure in your own mind than a fear of other people's reactions. And as a result there's an almost unbearable amount of pressure you place upon yourself to get it right because you feel like you cannot afford to get it wrong.

Don't answer that if it makes you uncomfortable, hon. It's just that I notice the way you carry yourself here, and the things you contribute to making other people feel better, feel like they can do things... and I wonder if what you're afraid of isn't not being female enough for the rest of the world, but of not being female enough for the standards you set for yourself. And what that could mean for you.
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
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Quote from: learningtolive on September 28, 2013, 08:33:40 PMAs such, I get great pride for assisting others and watching them succeed.   It's something I've always been good at and makes me feel happy. Sadly, I've never know how to help myself and find myself fumbling everytime I do try.  It's not that I don't have the answers, but I fear them.  This is probably why I give so much of myself here.  I truly want to help others and in the process help myself.  Despite my lack of ability to save myself, I do have something to give others because I realize what the answers are even if I refuse to accept them for myself and fear working on these things.

Just felt like noting that this sounds like me so much.

Quote from: learningtolive on September 28, 2013, 08:33:40 PM
Thank you for you encouragement.  All three of you have been very sweet to me throughout my time on this board.  I do appreciate it and it means a lot.  As for the content of your posts, I agree that much of what you say is probably true.  If I were rational, I would embrace those posts as I would probably say the same to another poster myself.  Yet, I am not able to embrace logic at the moment and have allowed fear to overtake me.  I hope I'll find a way to overcome it and find happiness. 
I wish I had something helpful to say... I've had the same problems, and still do to an extent, but it's easy for me to cope with them. I have immense talent in the art of being a daze and forgetting things. So I just went to bed and the following day it was generally gone from my memory. I guess I can't just tell you to become a daze, eh. :/
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