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Started by Darrin Scott, September 29, 2013, 08:23:34 PM

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Darrin Scott

I started Weight Watchers a few days ago and want to start exercising too. However, a gym is not an option for me right now as I'm saving for Top Surgery and I'm having that in february. I do however have some free weights in my basement. I have 7 pound weights and 2 pound weights. What can I do with this stuff and no gym? Thanks!





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geek

im pretty much in the same boat, i went to the freeweight section of bodybuilding.com and used their guides, you can also google free weight routines and take your pick of youtube or animated gifs that show you how to do them, if you dont have one maybe save up for a cheap push bike or set of skates if you can skate (or want to learn!) both are easy on the body and will help a lot, you dont need to spend a lot of money for either :)




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Jack_M

2lb weights are pretty useless really, I wouldn't even touch those tbh.  With 7lbs weights you could try holding them while you do squats and lunges.  You could also try using them as push-up bars and going down and then pulling one up to your side and then back down, do another push-up and then pull the other one up.  You could try holding it at your chest while doing sit ups too for that little added resistance.

7lbs is kinda weak to be doing anything with just them.  They'll only be of any use if you add them into something else as a sort of resistance type thing.  I mean if I was lifting weight for a cardio session, I'd use 15lbs at the absolute lowest for the exercises.  And that's for exercises using triceps or something where it is harder to lift anything too heavy.  Nothing would ever be as low as 7lbs for cardio lifting.  But you don't need to go out and buy weights, just use body weight and add the 7lb weights in for something extra and/or resistance. 

Push-ups are a FANTASTIC exercise.  They will help for toning and working on your core which will help with toning the muscles of your stomach, chest and back.  It's a good all over upper body workout.  Yeah, I really do love push-ups! Lol. 

I say try to go for some good cardio sessions.  So think more running, jogging, cycling, long walks or some at home workout DVD.  Find something fun that you'll stick with.

Just remember this one thing:  working out helps you stay motivated for losing weight, and is a great thing to do - endorphins are awesome for mental well being- but it actually doesn't do an awful lot with regards to losing weight.  Yup, exercise is NOT the answer to losing weight.  Diet is, and always will be, number 1 in losing weight.  So do your utmost to not fall into the trap of thinking, "Oh I can have another one of those.  I worked out today, so it'll be fine!"  Or, "I'll work out harder tomorrow and that'll cancel out being bad today."  That's not how it works.  You do need a little more calories when you're working out so don't starve yourself, but thinking that it's okay to have a mars bar because you worked out is just the wrong way to go about it.  Don't deny yourself treats here and there, just don't over indulge and then kid yourself that you deserve it because you worked out or that you can work it off later.  So many people fall into this trap.  It's easy to see why they do but here's an example to prove how it's a bad trap to fall into: jogging for 30 mins can result in burning off around 250 calories, around 200 if you do a combination of jogging and walking.  These are just averages but it wouldn't be much more or much less.  A mars bar is around 280 calories.  So don't rely on exercise being a get out of jail card.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying not to exercise.  I think it's important to keep active.  Exercising is important to being healthy both physically and mentally.  It can actually be better to be fit and slightly overweight than be a "healthy" weight and unfit when it comes to overall health.  Just don't expect it to be the magic cure that lets you over indulge without guilt.
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aleon515

I agree that weights and a mat you can do a lot of good for yourself. I also have a cheap rower ($150) so something like that (bike, etc) is useful, but definitely not needed. It's fall so you can easily walk or whatever. I wouldn't like the gym as I think it would be a big deal to get myself there. I actually had a personal trainer work with me, but you can easily find exercises on youtube (other places) and follow them without trouble. I wanted an abs exercise, looked around and found an easy one (I don't really ahve the trainer anymore. I've lost weight and lowered my cholesterol and bp.

--Jay
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geek

Quote from: Jack_M on September 29, 2013, 09:29:00 PM


at home workout DVD.

i can toss you a link to P90 to download  if you need it Darrin




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Jack_M

P90X is gonna be kinda useless without much heavier weights and a pull-up bar though. 

I'd say something like Turbo Fire or Turbo Jam might be a good one.  Insanity doesn't require any equipment but it truly is insane.  Would never advise that to anyone starting out!  I still think I'm insane having gone through it!  But I'm starting P90X after next weekend.  Time to bulk up!!! Lol.
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geek

which is why i said P90 :p not P90x  you can also not do the weight parts if you dont have the required ones,  they show you how to do it with no equiptment as well as with :)

Insanity kicked my arse haha

edit: let us know how you go starting P90x :) im looking to upgrade my weights before mid oct, and plan on joining you then!




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Darrin Scott

Thanks all!

I'm not interested in bulking up, but more of being lean and thin. My weights can be grouped meaning I can put the 7 with the 9lbs on both sides of the weight making it 18 lbs for 1 weight as well if that helps. P90 might help if 18 lbs is enough.

I'm looking for routines and simple things I can do a few times a week. Those are some great ideas Jack. I was wondering about sets and reps too.





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Jack_M

Lifting is good and building muscle can help with metabolism and so on.  However, if you're not looking to bulk, I would go more for just using your body weight because you can't really bulk up on body weight exercises alone.  They become more toning exercises and it'll save you messing around with the weights.  The problem I find with weights like that is that you keep having to mess with them to get the weight you need for different exercises.  That's why gyms or adjustable dumbbells are awesome because it's a quick grab or twisting a dial and boom - you have the weight you want.

While I know there's lean programs with programs like P90X I always see that version and wonder if it's really worth it, doing that type of program for just toning and cardio.  When it comes to endurance they have a couple of good programs (Kempo X is great) but I switched from P90X to Insanity because I have an upcoming Taekwon-do sparring comp and endurance is key.  I wasn't getting enough of the working out until I was ready to collapse with P90X; just a lot of muscle pain, which is counter-productive for me right now.  Speed is more important than mass!  Lol.  So in terms of cardio/toning routines, There's better out there.  Maybe P90 would be better (haven't done that one myself).  But whatever you go with, just keep switching until you find one that you enjoy, have fun doing, and feel like you're going to collapse at the end yet can't stop grinning like a mad man.  That's your program right there!

And yeah, week tomorrow I'm starting Geek.  Looking forward to it.  I have up to 50lb adjustable dumbbells.  I'm hoping by the time I finish the program I'm going to have to look into buying the up to 90lbs versions ;).  Finished Insanity yesterday and taking a week off.  Comp on Saturday!!! *gulp*
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geek

Good luck for your comp for tomorrow!




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chuck

Quote from: Darrin Scott on September 29, 2013, 09:44:16 PM
Thanks all!

I'm not interested in bulking up, but more of being lean and thin. My weights can be grouped meaning I can put the 7 with the 9lbs on both sides of the weight making it 18 lbs for 1 weight as well if that helps. P90 might help if 18 lbs is enough.

I'm looking for routines and simple things I can do a few times a week. Those are some great ideas Jack. I was wondering about sets and reps too.

If youre trying to lose weight and get lea, then you should focus on cardio and/or calorie restriction. Jog, swim, hike run in place, stepper, eliptical all that stuff. I would do a 45 minute jog/run 5 days a week. Maybe throw in a 30 minute session in the afternoon. This would be pretty intense but really effective. Its what I do when I am slimming down. 3 x a week might be a good start tough. 
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GnomeKid

Run, bike, swim if its available nearby

Get some of those workout DVDs yoga, Pilates, dance fusion hip hop abs whatever

Do bodyweight exercises (push ups, sit ups, find something to do dips with, buy a pull up bar)  I even saw once a guy who made his own bodyweight gym out of pvc.  It'd cost some money, but its way cheaper than a gym membership if you've got the space for it. 

If you want to use your weights you're really probably going to need something heavier pretty quickly.  7lb weights aren't going to do you much good probably even just at first esp. if you're on T.  Even 18lbs isn't really very much depending on the exercise you're doing, and the grip of holding two weights at once may make some exercises hard/impossible.  I'd buy a couple of those multiple weights in one things or a set you can add weight to over time.  (mines got a screw off end and if I owned any I could add weight plates to it)  Currently my schools got a nice gym I go to, but I'd definitely need to buy some more plates if I didn't. 

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Magnus

If you really want to lift and get befits, scour Craigslist for the proper equipment. I scored a Weider 575 Pro in excellent condition for about $150. I then later scored a barbell, weight tree and a slew of plates for... $100 (Olympic). Sure, the barbell and weights were a bit rusted but that is what CLR and steel wool are for.

In fact, you really don't need a bench/machine for lifting. Just the barbell (or dumbbell handles) and plates and knowing how to use them. I only wanted that gym because it has a safety spotter so I could lift alone in perfect safety (I do some HIT training or absolute max to failure so I really needed that feature lol). Otherwise, I could have done without (I'd just be forgoing chest isolation; not a great loss for us until after top surgery really).

So, I'm just saying it can be done and for a very reasonable cost. Just takes the time to look. You will get the best benefits from lifting than cardio because while you're lifting you are actually doing cardio (notice how your heart pounds in heavier lifts? Lifting really is good for that too), but when you're done that's when the real magic happens. Metabolism is permanently (well, as long as you stick to lifting to maintain gains) boosted from increased fat-burning muscle mass.

Its the only way I've ever gained any real results in both muscle mass as well as trimming down fat. They go hand-in-hand if you're doing it right. I honestly never had any real (and lasting) results from cardio alone. In fact, standard old cardio trims your muscle mass down because the body wants to move faster and muscle weighs more. Ever looked at marathon runners? That's why they're so lithe and simply toned not necessarily muscled (or 'ripped'). It really is a matter of either or here. I mean really, at that last... ever looked closer at even UPS drivers? They're proof that eventually cardio just doesn't cut it alone because your body adjusts and needs more. But if you're already running around all day what else could you do to offset? Weights, serious lifting. It really amazed me how many of the older of them are overweight despite having physically demanding jobs. Just my personal observation of having worked with those guys and ladies three peaks.


Also, it is an unfortunate misconception that lifting itself will hulk you out. In reality, there are three principal training styles necessary to attain certain results (that was the polite way of stating that it takes more than just brawn; it also takes brains. It's a science):

Strength: 1-5 reps, heavy weight.
Hypertrophy: 6-12 reps, mid weight.
Endurance: 13-20+ reps, light weight.

First, you have to find the amount of weight that you can only do once for every lift. Once you find that, you then reduce it by 2-20lbs (etc. depending on which rep range you're going after) of that 1-rep max until you can consistently lift that amount within the rep ranges for the results you want and therefore the training you need to stick to (periodically you must recalibrate your 1-rep max as you improve; same process). This is the beginning of every lifters journey in this exercise and if you skip it and "just do whatever", you're not going to see much happening because it really does take this rep range/training style system to get where you want to go with it. Otherwise, you will mostly be wasting your time and effort.

Hypertrophy doesn't happen to bodybuilding effect unless endurance and strength are blended because it is moderate weight at higher repetitions together that force the muscles to bulk (e.g. to "get pumped" and just to the point of them getting little tears in their fibers that then heal larger via scarring. That is truly all that's happening in hypertrophy). If you're only doing endurance you're not going to see much more than toning happening. Why? Because low weight at high reps isn't enough to really cause those little tears that become scar and which therefore is the mass. It really is that simple. If you're sticking to low weight at high reps, you're basically doing cardio but better cardio because it still tones and firms the muscles (where by and large, that would only happen in traditional cardio in the lower half). It just won't make them much or at-all bigger.

Now with strength (high weight, low reps), you're getting some hypertrophy but not nearly as much as actual hypertrophy training. It is the higher repetitions in hypertrophy training that really open up those little tears and make them all the more larger for that. So, what's the point of strength training? Muscle-memory. The more you challenge your muscles to lift heavy, the more you're going to be able to lift until you max out and the stronger you're going to be (can be quite useful if you're caught in a bad situation for whatever reason. Just saying. Beach muscles won't do much without the strength to really put them to use).

Now, a wise lifter targets all three and rotates them (randomization stave's off plateaus). It takes all three to get solid, large, strong and quick muscles (this is where the majority of people fail to get their desired, well-rounded results because they can get the mass but they'll be more infirm and weaker unless they also work on toning and power too; thus enter the other two types).

So just thought I'd clear that up. I had to learn this the hard way. You don't have to.


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Nygeel

Some suggestions (with pictures!):


OR
This whole thing here

I also have a fun time following along this Beyonce video.


Sure, I'm a horrible dancer but if I keep up with the video I'm a little out of breath by the end. Plus, it's only 4 minutes. Do it in your own bedroom (if you live with people and feel weird about it). Especially good if you do it right before you plan on showering.
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aleon515

When I don't have my personal trainer to show me, I have watched videos. To me they are more helpful than pictures because you see the whole exercise, how my trainer showed me this site. It has every part of the body and exercises but no weights. It says how hard the exercise is, which seems accurate. Some of them require equipment (usually simple stuff like a ball or medicine ball). He didn't say what Acefitness was:
http://www.acefitness.org/acefit/exercise-by-bodypart/

I wish the thing used videos but there is a clear explanation. Or you can go look for stuff that is a whole exercise system of how ever long you want to do. You can find 5-30 minute workouts. If you look at the top of this page on ftms, there is also a page here. I wasn't strong enough to do those when I started though, so if you're not you shouldn't give up. Everybody can get stronger, but not everybody is there right now.

--Jay
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