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Does anyone hate being a man

Started by Melanie_uk, October 05, 2013, 05:41:50 AM

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Blinded Wolf

Quote from: dalebert on October 30, 2013, 12:53:24 PM
I'm not sure where this perception comes from but I have my theories. Statistically, domestic violence is not gendered. And I suspect male victims under-report because guys are expected to suck it up so to speak and endure it. The expression "never hit a woman" seems to have had a powerful effect on our culture since women are far less likely statistically to be the victims of any violent crime. That includes rape, by the way, assuming you don't use the CDC's definition of rape (you can't be raped unless you've been forcefully penetrated. Forced sex is not defined as rape somehow. With a more broadly accepted notion, the statistics for rape become close to equal, even per the CDC's records.) I think the reason people generally have a perception of violence against women being a particular problem, even though they're victims of violence dramatically less often then men is because society simply cares more when they've been victimized. We've been conditioned to.


I can see where you're coming from. I'll readily admit to being influenced by the media when it comes to my views on this (incorrectly so, perhaps).
Every time you turn on the TV and a crime show/the news/an investigative documentary comes on, you're instantly barraged with images of bloodied, violated (usually) dead women. As a female currently, I look at things like that and roll my eyes so far back into my skull that I have to have them medically fished out.
My girlfriend and I routinely comment things like, "Oh, look, another dead chick. I wonder if--yep, she was raped. Now there's a plot twist".

To me, it's needlessly perpetuating this 'delicate victim' image that the majority of women I know don't subscribe to and is causing a lot of women to be over-the-top cautious in social situations (thus, resulting in things I saw on that women's privilege list--"not avoided by strangers of the opposite gender", etc) to the point of paranoia.
It's also reinforcing this position of weak helplessness that ultimately doesn't do -anything- positive for a woman's self-perceptions. 

I agree that male violence/rape is highly overlooked. It's not fairly or equally represented in society, but I don't, at all, believe that the media's hard-on with making women seem like sickly little gazelles is a benefit to women so much as an unintended detriment to men.



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Stella Stanhope

QuoteHi , does anyone else utterly hate being male , but not the urge or inclination to go down the gender reassignment route.

Definitely! And its a rather bizarre position to be in, isn't it? I feel like I've fallen down the gap in the sofa in the space between the male and female cushions. I used to really be freaked out by this as I couldn't control how I felt alienated from being male, but not feeling an affinity with other women. How you experience and appreciate gender really does depend on the individual. I tended to get misgendered alot as female when I was younger, and I remember feeling humiliated by it because the emphasis was that I was failing as a male. I don't think I've had much in the way of this famous male privilege, apart from being able to walk down streets late at night without worrying.

What I think can be overlooked is how male privilege only applies to males who top of the pack. Skinny and non-aggressive males (like I was) don't tend to get much in the way of benefits. I tend to be seen as stupid and ineffectual and always have to prove myself first, which is very similar to what is listed as a female issue here. As for weight, it works differently. As a woman you have to be thinner or hourglass shaped according to beauty culture, but for men, men have to be well-built with muscle as deemed by popular culture. So there's exactly the same pressures, just over different ideals. Trust me on this, women are just as scathing about skinny or fat men as men are about overweight or small-busted women.

As for the money side of things, I've noticed that A: the female students who studied the college courses with us secured jobs first over the males, and B: in catering women make far more in tips than the men do, and are usually hired over the males due to the extra revenue they will raise. So in my experience, it has actually paid more (literally) to be female in the media sector and catering/hospitality sectors.

I'm not discounting anyone's accounts or being argumentative (as I said earlier my experience will be different to everyone else's), I'm just mentioning that surprisingly there are perks to being a Western female over being an average male, especially in this day and age.  However I will agree that as soon as a woman enters big business where there are alpha males, I can imagine that must be super tough and that there is a pay divide.
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gennee

I am at peace with myself as a transgender woman. I never hated being male; I prefer being a woman.  I feel complete and have been liberated from what society says I should be.


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Michelleisadude

This reminds me of when my wife and I were watching Orange is the New Black. There's a transgender inmate on the show and they did a flashback on her getting dressed with the help of her wife and they were talking about having her penis removed. I felt the need to tell my wife that I do like being a man and my penis is staying where it is. Might be tucked from time to time but it'll still be there.

So, no. I don't hate being a man. I do wish that sometimes I could switch at will so I could know what it's like to be a woman for a while. That, and I'd want to *look* like a natural woman, breasts, hips, legs, lips and all.
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Stephanie2

I guess I have always wondered how things would have been as a woman. Both genders have their advantages and disadvantages. One thing that comes to mind is that grown women can act immature, but it is acceptable. If a male acts the same way, people always will tell him to act his age or think he is immature. It isn't fair, but that is the way it is. In ways I do wish I was born a female. That is probably why I am a crossdresser and even going a bit further in wanting a female body shape with the bovine ovary. However, I would not make a passable woman. For this reason I don't think I would go as far as an operation. If I were given the tremendous amount of money to have it done and change the face and voice, hmmmmm, now that would be interesting.
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Jamie D

Quote from: Michelleisadude on January 02, 2014, 02:02:48 PM
This reminds me of when my wife and I were watching Orange is the New Black. There's a transgender inmate on the show and they did a flashback on her getting dressed with the help of her wife and they were talking about having her penis removed. I felt the need to tell my wife that I do like being a man and my penis is staying where it is. Might be tucked from time to time but it'll still be there.

So, no. I don't hate being a man. I do wish that sometimes I could switch at will so I could know what it's like to be a woman for a while. That, and I'd want to *look* like a natural woman, breasts, hips, legs, lips and all.

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bingunginter

I do not hate being a man at all. In fact some of my best and happiest moment in my life are when I was a man.
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Carolynn

Quote from: Melanie_uk on October 05, 2013, 05:41:50 AM
Hi , does anyone else utterly hate being male , but not the urge or inclination to go down the gender reassignment route .

NO. I embrace ME across the full range. I like that I can fix, repair or build more than most men. I like shooting and guns and wearing pretty panties too.
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Natalia

Not that I really hate being a man...I don't feel like a man at all and for me transitioning is the way to make me finaly stop faking and trying to be someone that I don't want to be and I don't feel I can ever be.
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peky

Not at all! Despite my refusal I was indoctrinated and trained to be a masculine, and played the role quiet well for a long time.

After having happily transition for a couple of years I realized that a part of me will always be a masculine, and instead of being unhappy about it, I am quiet grateful about it because that masculine part of me makes me a stronger woman....

so there goes the silver lining my friend

As far as not wanted to transition, you just wait, sooner or later to some degree everybody who express sentiments like your would transition...resistance is futile...

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Sandra M. Lopes

I manage to mix up two threads and ended up answering them both in a single article.

Now how stupid is that? Duh!
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Carolynn

Personally, I'm irked about my body. As I'm petite (size UK 6-8) in women's clothes, I look terrible in male-cut clothes, but quite nice in ladies' clothes. However my cunky veins and hairy skin kind of ruin that, so I'm forever looking awkward and ugly in whatever I wear.
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I do not fit the normal male size range either from the waist down. (size US 2-4) Sheer support tights work great on the vein and a epilator fixes the hair :)
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barbie

No. I am satisfied with my androgynous or bi-gender stats of my body and mind.

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Jess42

Well, I really don't know about equal pay in most instances but in my field of expertise, women and men make the same. Women have it a whole lot easier than men because there are twenty men that swoop into help a woman and they end up having to do far less than a man.

Also in my observations and the area in which I live and the businesses that I do business with, women may indeed make a little less than their men but the jobs they have a way better than what the men do. I would love to have one of the "normal" female jobs and make a little less than sweat my butt off or freeze my butt off or take a chance of getting struck by lightening, and Well.. Ya'll get the piture.

As for the initial question though, I really don't hate being a man as much as feel screwed by the universe, genetics, Lady Luck and so on. I mean hell, 50/50 chance and end I drew the short stick, no pun intended.

As for male priveledge, I have never really experienced that one. So maybe I ain't that much of a male anyway or at least mentally male. I do find that when I'm working some men, few and far between, seem to try to feel me out and borderline flirt with me. Whether they are gay or "->-bleeped-<-s" I don't know but tend to sort of flirt back (I'm extremely flattered when that does happen though) and find there are perks somewhat on the female level with it.
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barbie

I do not like routine tasks that my wife has been doing, such as washing, cooking, and cleaning. My wife seems to enjoy cooking, especially when my kids like it. Definitely I am a dad in my family. I like math and analysis, and sometimes become aggressive in my research area. All of our house income comes from me. I purchased all of our cars and houses, mostly through bank loan. I just thank my wife for bringing up my kids healthy.

Physically I was very feminine in my teen. Not good at  sports. However, after reaching age 40, I became very healthy, compared with my contemporary. I have more stamina and endurance, although my muscular strength has always been weaker than most men. I like marathon instead of sprint or tennis. I look far younger than men and women at my age.

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Feather

I do hate not having a female body, though I don't hate being male.

I'm still trying to make sense of that..
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kimberly c

I don`t mind being a man, but I would prefer being a woman because I love all things feminine.

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justchillin

I don't hate being a man. It's just as time went by the idea of being a man seemed more and more odd to me. I  can say I don't prefer it. I do regret male puberty though. Now I'll never have child bearing hips  :(  :laugh:
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Stephanie2

Not only am I not passable as a woman, but I am too tall to be a woman. At 6'2" most people would guess that I am a guy or at least was a guy. Biological women that are only 5'10" tall have told me that men occasionally ask if they were a man. I, however, have known a woman at 6'2" and she was taller than me in high heels. I guess anything is possible.
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SabrinaDubh

I don't hate it, but I am done with it. If I had to I could live the rest of my life as male, but it wouldn't be a terribly happy existence.
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