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At what point did you REALLY start to notice hrts effects?

Started by Ltl89, October 08, 2013, 02:13:25 PM

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Lexi Belle

Quote from: Heather on October 09, 2013, 12:26:44 PM
It's all based on genetics and body type if your naturally skinny your probably not going to see that much development. But everybody is different so hang in there. :)

Oh, I'm totally patient. It just amazes me by how fast some people develope!  And I am preeeeetty skinny.  I HAVE been gaining a lot of weight lately and I definitely see it building up in my chest.  My chest bounces when I walk, total new feeling. xD
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Heather

Quote from: Nidalexi on October 09, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
Oh, I'm totally patient. It just amazes me by how fast some people develope!  And I am preeeeetty skinny.  I HAVE been gaining a lot of weight lately and I definitely see it building up in my chest.  My chest bounces when I walk, total new feeling. xD
It can happen I have a pretty full C cup right now. I actually started developing at the two week point and it hasn't let up. But everybody is different and it could just take your body a little longer to develop. :)
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vlmitchell

For the how long bit? Ummm... well, boobs coming in definitely feel like boobs coming in (about a month before they started really doing their thing). The rest of the changes happen every day but they're so subtle from day to day that it's like trying to notice your hair growing. If you really try to, you can notice the little changes from day to day but, really, it's more fun to just not pay attention and get the crap startled out of you by looking in the mirror a few months down the line and recognizing the changes writ large.

After the breasts do their schtick, you probably will stop paying attention at some point and then you'll just look at a 'before' picture and be amaaaaaazed.

Quote from: Nidalexi on October 09, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
Oh, I'm totally patient. It just amazes me by how fast some people develope!  And I am preeeeetty skinny.  I HAVE been gaining a lot of weight lately and I definitely see it building up in my chest.  My chest bounces when I walk, total new feeling. xD

Yay for bouncy. It's awesome... until you run... then it's a bit painful. :D
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Heather

Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on October 09, 2013, 12:37:28 PM
Yay for bouncy. It's awesome... until you run... then it's a bit painful. :D
And don't forget going down stairs. :P
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Jenna Marie

Stairs were what got me. I was convinced I was making it up on day 5 until I ran downstairs and yowled. :)
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Christine Eryn

It depends on what you're taking. 6 years ago I started on injections of E, then had patches. That worked slowly but surely and I saw changes in a few months. When I started on the combo of E and Spiro, it changed everything. Around a year ago my doctor added gel, which is very rough on me lemme tell ya. A few months ago, my doctor changed my dosage again. It's been a double edged sword though, my skin feels like glass silk and my face/cheeks have an unmistakable femininity that is hard to hide. But sometimes it feels like I'm melting from the inside out (not a good thing). Basically if you keep it up you will absolutely see changes, want them or not.
"There was a sculptor, and he found this stone, a special stone. He dragged it home and he worked on it for months, until he finally finished. When he was ready he showed it to his friends and they said he had created a great statue. And the sculptor said he hadn't created anything, the statue was always there, he just cleared away the small peices." Rambo III
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Apples Mk.II

Meh. My chest started hurting at four days of HRT, and after five months I can say I have an A, after breast development speeding up in the last two months, but otherwise... I think my face may look slightly more female, but it's impossible to pass as a girl in dude mode (something I would love). I did not luck out in facial structures, started at a non optimal age and i will need decent FFS. I have the weird impression that my body has softer forms, but that's probably my bones not sticking that much. The distance between shoulders has reduced a bit, but that's what you get after one year of not exercising the top part of the body.

- Body hair is overal softer and I have regrowth a bit more on the head.
- Skin has gotten so transparent than even ater shaving I can see the follicles under it. So beard cover every day.
- Body odor is not the same anymore, or I don't recognize my old one (after shoving my head in the wardrobe narnia style to find a lens cap and smelling my old coats).
- Weight is more or less the same. Maybe a 1kg increase, but I've been skipping cardio for two months.


Nothing mentally, nothing. I don't feel different at all, and since I have not made any voice training, my voice stills makes me feel as a guy. In the end, for me everything is clothing, foam bras, make up (eyeliner is a god send), plucked eyebrows and one year of laser and hair growth.
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Carrie Liz

I believe that the general consensus from everything I've read on people's various HRT timelines is that usually not a whole lot happens up to about 6 months. 0-6 months is the "groundwork" phase where some things change, varying from person to person (some change immediately, some change very slowly.) Once you hit that 6 month mark, that is when you can start expecting things to begin changing significantly, and they will continue changing significantly until around the 18-month mark, when it will start slowing down again. (I've heard somewhere that your feminizing changes will be about 80% complete by that 18-month mark, that you can't really make any final predictions about what you're going to look like as your new permanent post-transition self until the 2-year mark, and then the finishing touches will occur over several more years after that, with some additional feminization happening after orchiectomy/SRS. So right now at only the 2-month mark of full-blown HRT, you're less than 10% of the way there, LTL. Plus HRT changes kind of work on a bell-curve... they're slow to start, then speed up, then eventually start leveling off again as they reach the end. So really, it's probably more like 5%.)

From my personal experience, I did see a few changes up until the 6-month mark, but they really weren't that significant. Slight breast budding, slightly smoother skin, slightly more feminine fat distribution, but I really didn't feel like much was changing. I was still having a LOT of "OMG, nothing's changing, HRT isn't working on me" freakouts well into months 5 and 6. It seemed like no matter what I did, I was always going to be stuck with huge upper arms and a thick chest and bulky leg/chest muscles that were forever going to make me look like a hideous hulking mass. That was when, slowly, things started happening. Breast growth finally started advancing beyond just budding. I started putting on some more subcutaneous fat, and started getting a butt. And then suddenly, around the 8-month mark, one day I looked in the mirror and realized that I had lost a whole lot of that male bulk that I had been so worried about. My hands started looking slender. So did my legs. My arms didn't look so huge anymore. And it's not done yet, by any means. This is all still ongoing. It's still happening as I type these words, and I'm going to hit 9 months in about two days.

As far as "male fail" mode? Well, I'll tell you when I get there. Right now, I've still never been gendered female unless I'm wearing my wig and my feminine clothes. (My still-short hair probably has a lot to do with that.) So I can't tell you when that will come. It varies from person to person. I can tell you, though, that I really started feeling comfortable with my feminine presentation, enough so that I could go out in public without constantly feeling like every single part of my body was this hideous masculine thing that I had to do my best to hide, around the 8 month mark. And now, at the 9-month mark, this is the first time that I'm genuinely starting to feel like a normal woman when I'm out.


Here's another thing, though... I didn't notice most of these changes consciously. After a while, you settle into a pattern of being used to this constant state of change, and thus your mind just gets caught in old patterns of assuming that male features are still there even long after they aren't anymore. Like, with the muscle atrophy thing. I didn't consciously notice how small my arms had gotten until I compared them to a video that I'd taken about 4 months ago. Up until I directly compared, I assumed that they hadn't changed. But then suddenly when I looked at them, I realized, "holy smokes! They're like half as big as they used to be! I've been worrying about nothing this whole time!" So don't expect to notice much. It will always feel like nothing's changing, regardless of how much really is changing. You can really only know by keeping pictoral/video archives of the process, and looking back and comparing directly.



SIDE NOTE: My trans friends' experiences:

Arianna (started hormones at 27): was full-time very shortly after starting hormones, was getting "male fails" almost immediately (she started with a very feminine face and a full head of long hair naturally,) but she was still getting "sir" occasionally even with full makeup and female clothes on, up until somewhere around the 15-month mark. Her skin underwent a SIGNIFICANT improvement in appearance after the 3-year mark when she got SRS, and now 6 years in the only thing that has ever gotten her clocked is her voice, and she really doesn't even think about her gender anymore, she's just another girl.

Ariel (started hormones at 33): says that she didn't really start feeling comfortable as a girl until almost the 4-year mark. (She's a bit socially anxious, though.)

Dale (started hormones in her late 50's): says that she really started noticing the changes around the 8-9 month mark.
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KabitTarah

Quote from: Nidalexi on October 09, 2013, 11:48:53 AM
I'm dumbfounded by all these people with significant breast growth by 3 months, I'm 19 and 3 and a half months in and I'm still at mosquito bite stage. Lol.

Never the less, my endocrinologist gave me a paper telling me exactly what to expect and everything said it wouldn't start out too noticeably until about 3 months as a general rule.  Most changes won't be seen until about 6 months or longer.  So yeah, you're way too early in for HRT, HRT can work wonders and it IS a magical hormones.  It just DOESN'T work very fast.  Give it 3 or 4 more months, then compare yourself now to a picture in 3 or 4 months. I bet you'll see a lot of difference!

I'm going by that rule. My plan is to start E in May / June in hopes that by the time the changes start being more noticeable, I'll be wearing sweaters and sweat shirts...

which of course means I'll have a C or D cup by August ;) Well... maybe not quite that quick, but it's a fear. I could have no option but be fully out at work this summer. Woo!?
~ Tarah ~

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Ltl89

Thanks everyone for replies.  It means a lot and is very helpful!

Positive update:

I went out to a support group with my friend tonight and got some really good feedback.  I haven't seen my friend in a long time (2 months) and she wasn't knowing what to expect.  Well, according to her, I have drastically improved and don't have to worry at all about passing in the future.  Throughout the night she kept commenting on how feminine I looked and she was shocked that I can't see how far I have come.  This was affirmed by all the people at the group that know me (who by the way haven't seen me in few a months either).  Even though people say things to be nice, I could tell they were being sincere.  It was awesome to hear because I feel stuck in a rut but everyone else seems to notice.  My friend even said that I could pass at this very moment if I just  put myself out there and start presenting more feminine in my overall appearance..  The best part about it is that I did nothing different tonight other than straighten my hair (which makes a huge difference and makes my face appear fairly feminine). So, even without makeup, female clothing and everything else, people are starting to notice a big difference.  Hey, I'm early in, so there has to be even more from the hormones.  And once I get to start laser and dressing accordingly, I'll be in great shape!  All this together may equal success! I'm getting excited.  Maybe I am close to being there.  I just have to allow myself to feminize further and put myself out there without worrying about others.   For the first time, I'm starting to really believe it's possible that I will pass, and even better, that I will one day be pretty.  I guess I will just have to start taking risks and stop fearing what others say.   This is really awesome!  I'm sorry to be so giddy here, but I'm starting to believe it will happen.  It's stupid, but I feel pretty tonight and it feels amazing.  I've never felt that way about myself.  I like it.   Maybe I owe it to myself to stop being so negative and start believing in myself.  That's probably my biggest issue.   Sorry for rambling, but I wanted to share the positive good feelings! :)
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KabitTarah

Quote from: learningtolive on October 09, 2013, 10:57:35 PM
Thanks everyone for replies.  It means a lot and is very helpful!

Positive update:

I went out to a support group with my friend tonight and got some really good feedback.  I haven't seen my friend in a long time (2 months) and she wasn't knowing what to expect.  Well, according to her, I have drastically improved and don't have to worry at all about passing in the future.  Throughout the night she kept commenting on how feminine I looked and she was shocked that I can't see how far I have come.  This was affirmed by all the people at the group that know me (who by the way haven't seen me in few a months either).  Even though people say things to be nice, I could tell they were being sincere.  It was awesome to hear because I feel stuck in a rut but everyone else seems to notice.  My friend even said that I could pass at this very moment if I just  put myself out there and start presenting more feminine in my overall appearance..  The best part about it is that I did nothing different tonight other than straighten my hair (which makes a huge difference and makes my face appear fairly feminine). So, even without makeup, female clothing and everything else, people are starting to notice a big difference.  Hey, I'm early in, so there has to be even more from the hormones.  And once I get to start laser and dressing accordingly, I'll be in great shape!  All this together may equal success! I'm getting excited.  Maybe I am close to being there.  I just have to allow myself to feminize further and put myself out there without worrying about others.   For the first time, I'm starting to really believe it's possible that I will pass, and even better, that I will one day be pretty.  I guess I will just have to start taking risks and stop fearing what others say.   This is really awesome!  I'm sorry to be so giddy here, but I'm starting to believe it will happen.  It's stupid, but I feel pretty tonight and it feels amazing.  I've never felt that way about myself.  I like it.   Maybe I owe it to myself to stop being so negative and start believing in myself.  That's probably my biggest issue.   Sorry for rambling, but I wanted to share the positive good feelings! :)

I'm really happy for you! Everyone is starting to see how beautiful a woman you are!
~ Tarah ~

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