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Male Privilege?

Started by brianna1016, October 16, 2013, 03:44:43 AM

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Sammy

Quote from: kabit on October 18, 2013, 12:02:15 PM
There's more geese on that side.

Nope, silly! There are less geese on the other one!
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Sephirah

Quote from: kabit on October 18, 2013, 11:47:48 AM
Why is one side of the "V" of geese longer than the other?

They're flying in the "Missing Goose" formation. This can most often be seen around Christmas, and the geese are well known to fly lower over houses cooking their roast potatoes in goose fat. Maybe they can smell the death throes of the fallen.

...

Okay, that was my utterly useless non-fact for the day.

Carry on.
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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Nero

Quote from: Sephirah on October 18, 2013, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: kabit on October 18, 2013, 11:47:48 AM
Why is one side of the "V" of geese longer than the other?

They're flying in the "Missing Goose" formation. This can most often be seen around Christmas, and the geese are well known to fly lower over houses cooking their roast potatoes in goose fat. Maybe they can smell the death throes of the fallen.


Really?
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Sephirah

Ummm... no. >_>

At least, I don't think so. I'm not sure there's a waterfowl understanding of military protocol. It would be cool if there were, though, lol.
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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KabitTarah

Quote from: Sephirah on October 18, 2013, 01:15:35 PM
Ummm... no. >_>

At least, I don't think so. I'm not sure there's a waterfowl understanding of military protocol. It would be cool if there were, though, lol.

Thank god there isn't!

~ Tarah ~

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Sammy

Or maybe geese are employing the "denied flank" formation?
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Nero

Quote from: Sephirah on October 18, 2013, 01:15:35 PM
Ummm... no. >_>

At least, I don't think so. I'm not sure there's a waterfowl understanding of military protocol. It would be cool if there were, though, lol.

I mean them purposefully flying in close proximity to goose fat?  :laugh:
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Sephirah

Quote from: FA on October 18, 2013, 01:26:09 PM
I mean them purposefully flying in close proximity to goose fat?  :laugh:

I so wish that were true. ;D Who knows, maybe it is.
Natura nihil frustra facit.

"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection." ~ Buddha.

If you're dealing with self esteem issues, maybe click here. There may be something you find useful. :)
Above all... remember: you are beautiful, you are valuable, and you have a shining spark of magnificence within you. Don't let anyone take that from you. Embrace who you are. <3
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brianna1016

Quote from: dalebert on October 18, 2013, 08:21:58 AM
In extremely over-simplified terms, I would say the core of male privilege is a certain amount of respect by default although you can quickly lose it by not living up to male expectations--being a provider/producer (making phat cash), competitive, tough and/or violent when society wants you to be (like in the military or police or coming to the defense of a woman who is threatened), risking or sacrificing yourself for women or children, things like that. The core of female privilege is a certain amount of inherent value by default--women's lives and well-being are treated as more precious--which you can lose by not living up to female expectations like being pretty, submissive, nurturing, and so forth.
That's a very good point you made
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HelloKitty

What is this male privilege? I never had it at all.
I get way way better treatment from everybody now and am loving it.
Being a girl rules! :D
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dalebert

Things that make you go "hmmm"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kylesmith/2013/04/04/its-time-for-companies-to-fire-their-human-resource-departments/

Quote...economics researchers Bradley Ruffle at Ben-Gurion University and Ze'ev Shtudiner at Ariel University Centre sought to answer the question of whether being good looking could help you find a job. The answer surprised them: Not if you're a woman. Pretty women faced an uphill struggle to get a chance at a job.

amZo

QuoteWhat the hell is 'male privilege' anyway? I keep reading about people who have experienced the shock of not having this anymore after they began transitioning. Pretty sure I never had male privilege to begin with and/or never wanted it. Being 'male' never gave me any privileges, it was a chore that I despised greatly.

You mean you were never invited to the annual male privilege convention and taught the secret handshake either? Me either.  ;)
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Devlyn

You were invited. You didn't see the invitation because you didn't use your secret decoder ring.
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dalebert

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 13, 2013, 01:15:37 PM
You were invited. You didn't see the invitation because you didn't use your secret decoder ring.

They hand those out when you get your first letterman jacket on the football team.

Unfortunately, I was in band.

Devlyn

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izzy

I felt like I never had male privilege to start with.
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dalebert

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 13, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
BANNED.  Say it right.

Okay. The football team BANNED me from getting male privilege. Or maybe I'm getting that mixed up with jock privilege. :)

amZo

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 13, 2013, 01:15:37 PM
You were invited. You didn't see the invitation because you didn't use your secret decoder ring.

Yep, I was never good with those things... and to think how much different my life could've turned out! 
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LizMarie

Here is an honestly interesting blog entry, written by Haley, a friend of mine on Facebook. Haley, and her wife Melissa, came from extremely evangelical fundamentalist backgrounds. Once they had married and had begun their lives together, a lot began to happen, including Haley, then a fundamentalist pastor, coming out as trans. Melissa's entire blog is worthy of an afternoon's reading, to watch her and Haley grow, come to grips with the real world as opposed to the world as it had been preached at them as children, coming to grips with Haley as trans, and many other things.

Occasionally Haley writes guest articles in that blog. This is one such, titled Oblivious To Privilege - Part One. Oblivious To Privilege - Part 2 is also available.
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.



~ Cara Elizabeth
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Mercédes

Very interesting read Liz Marie, i booked marked it to read more of her blog entries.

Yeah Male privilege, or burden if you will. I was never really an over achiever I have achieved much in my 40 some years and have alot of friends tell me that my life reads like Forest Gump, been there done that. being a minority raised in mainstream white culture (was adopted at age eight) I saw many things that most children would never see. the disbelieving looks when I explained who my parents were. and always knowing that people were saying "oh he's adopted" so feeling like I don't fit always made me an outsider, free to, well, not fit in. not much of a free feeling when all I wanted to do was fit in. So I tried, I discovered a few cheats, I could use my Family Status as a privilege, and boom, doors open, "oh _____ are your parents?" also I learned that there was work that was "below me", "No leave that the girls will get it, I need your help in the barn" How could I tell them I'd rather help in the kitchen than work in the barn, power tools were scary, keeping up with my brothers was exhausting, hose play was too rough, and I'd rather talk about what I was feeling or thinking. And I always felt guilty that my sister would be doing chores for 3 while we shared the work of the same number.
Fast forward to these days in Transition. last summer while working I was viewed predominately as male and as usual and expected I rolled up my sleeves and dove into the work, missing mussel mass and an inability to gauge my strength/endurance would often make me fall short ot the "guys" a few times job assignments were handed out and light duty yet technical jobs would be given to some of the older guys (people my age actually now I think about it) while I was more often than not assigned to the labor along with the "Young Bucks" the final straw that prompted me to go to our Department head was being told to take the day off because I obviously couldn't keep up with the guys on that days work load. Here I was experiencing exclusion from male Privilege (work) and feeling upset about it, not because I was being excluded from working but because I was being denied entry into working as a woman within our Crew. (the ladies that day were tasked with inventory and logistics) When I layed out my indignation to our Department head he Looked a bit Shocked and said, "OMG, Your right that's just wrong." He then re assigned me to the Logistics team and pulled a few of the supervisors pet people of there and sent them out with the labor crew. at lunch our Department head told Everyone that there is a privilege that women in the crew had and that was to be utilized for their skills not their strength and that Every guy there was to afford me the same expectations and division of labor as any of the other girls on the crew. end story. turned out to be a very good work day.
"Why do you want to persecute yourself with the question of where all this is coming from and where it is going? Since you know, after all, that you are in the midst of transitions and you wished for nothing so much as to change."
― Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
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