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How do you deal with being too short?

Started by em444, November 07, 2013, 09:23:54 PM

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em444

I'll have to try that, then! I  might be wrong but 5'4 sounds so much better than 5'1 or 5'2 for some reason xD I'd feel better with that, would be totally happy with 5'5 or 5'6 xD
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LordKAT

I'd be much happier with 5'8", but that boat has sailed.

I think we all want to be just a little bit taller, a little bit more muscle, a little bit more masculine.
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Night Haven

*Hah* That's about the height I was hoping for back in elementary school. Boy, was I optimistic.

At least two of those things can be fixed even after one stops growing, so there's at least that to look forward to. The second you don't even have to wait to start working at (and, arguably, the third for certain features and being in league with building muscle).
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Contravene

I'm 5'6 so I guess I'm not too short but I always feel like I am compared to my little sister who's already taller than me and most men where I live are in the 5'10 to 6' range. I've always hated my height, I have a longer torso but my legs are short because my growth was stunted at a really early age. I'm painfully reminded that I could and should have been taller everytime I have to buy pants since even the ones labelled as "short" are too long on me sometimes. When I decided I wanted to transition, my height caused dysphoria that hit me really hard.

There are options out there if you're willing to sacrifice time, money and physical comfort. Leg lengthing surgery sounds extreme but in the past few years it's gotten pretty advanced and it's becoming a lot more popular. It's possible to gain anywhere from 2 to 6 inches from LL surgery. I would do it in a heartbeat if I had the money for it, I don't care about the pain or recovery time. I would be content at 5'9 or 5'10 which is around the height I would have been if my growth hadn't been stunted but it's awesome knowing that 6' is even a posibility.

That's how I deal with my short legs, by knowing that there are possibilities out there. Even if I never undergo something like LL surgery, it's good to know that there are options.

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em444

LordKat I couldn't have said it better, I think sometimes we want to be more masculine than most cis guys could ever even be xD.

Night Haven I was also hoping to get to at least 5'5 in elementary school, I guess I was too optimistic too xD. It's great to focuse  on what CAN be changed.

Contravene it's great to know there are options indeed! I  don't think I could ever end up actually undergoing surgery (I'm so afraid  of surgeries and have never gotten one yet which is why all of this is so hard for me because even though I'd love to get top surgery I don't think I'll ever dare actually doing it, I have so many phobias about medical things in general) but it is still great to know there are options in case I stop being afraid at some point. I will definitely research that surgery even if only for educational purposes. I would definitely do it if I wasn't such a chicken and  if I actually had money. By the way, I feel exactly like what you described most times.
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alexclusive

I'm not that much taller than you. I'm 5'4" when rounding up (shh). I used to find myself insecure about my height, and often felt inferior to taller men. I still do sometimes; I won't lie about that. Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about it. Our genetics are our genetics, and the fact that we were placed in the wrong anatomy at birth doesn't help our cause either.

How to deal with it? There's a couple of ways. Losing weight, as you suggested, is one factor that can definitely help. The weight loss will help you conform your body into clothes a lot more efficiently, thus assisting in passing. Lifting some weights probably won't hurt either. Not to mention, the thinner somebody is, I'm pretty there is an illusion that makes them seem taller than they really are. I don't have any psychological or scientific proof of that statement, but from my own personal experience, a lot of people don't believe me when I tell them that I'm 5'4". They think I'm around 5'6" or 5'7" because I have a slim but athletic build. I also notice this within other people when I ask them what their true height is, and they almost always end up telling me that they're shorter than what I originally thought they were.

This issue is not only physical though, it is also mental. Focus on having confidence. If you walk around with your head held high, people will respect you regardless of how tall you are. This gives off a vibe that you take a lot of pride in yourself, and that is what is ultimately attractive. Confidence not only makes up for lack of height, but it also attracts an admiration and acceptance from others. Be proud and others will be proud in you as well.



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em444

Alexclusive that some great adivce! thanks a lot. I actually agree with your theory whether there's proof for it or not. I lost weight once and even though I didn't feel taller, everyone was surprised by my apparent "new height" xD, which was pretty nice. It's sooo hard for me to lose weight let alone keep it off though :(  but I will try. Since you mention working out I've been wanting to ask (and anyone can answer if you want, that would be nice) how does that work for guys who are not on T? I've read that you can't really build muscle without T (not enough at least) yet at times I see either pre-T guys or cis women who actually manage  to build quite a nice amount of muscle so I'm a bit confused in relation to how that works :O. I've never in my life been athletic nor have I seriously worked out, so I have no idea how my body works in that regard. I'm afraid that losing weight my make me look more feminine, but at the same time I feel that fat doesn't help either, especially in the butt and chest department (my chest dramatically shrunk in size when I lost weight). but then wouldn't it make my face look..."finer" or thinner?  Just throwing that out there xD
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alexclusive

Quote from: em444 on November 08, 2013, 09:55:51 PM
Alexclusive that some great adivce! thanks a lot. I actually agree with your theory whether there's proof for it or not. I lost weight once and even though I didn't feel taller, everyone was surprised by my apparent "new height" xD, which was pretty nice. It's sooo hard for me to lose weight let alone keep it off though :(  but I will try. Since you mention working out I've been wanting to ask (and anyone can answer if you want, that would be nice) how does that work for guys who are not on T? I've read that you can't really build muscle without T (not enough at least) yet at times I see either pre-T guys or cis women who actually manage  to build quite a nice amount of muscle so I'm a bit confused in relation to how that works :O. I've never in my life been athletic nor have I seriously worked out, so I have no idea how my body works in that regard. I'm afraid that losing weight my make me look more feminine, but at the same time I feel that fat doesn't help either, especially in the butt and chest department (my chest dramatically shrunk in size when I lost weight). but then wouldn't it make my face look..."finer" or thinner?  Just throwing that out there xD

Anytime man.
As for your questions:

While not being on T does give quite a setback when it comes to building muscle, that doesn't mean that you can't build a significant amount. It may just take twice the amount of time, and a lot of harder work. When you look at female bodybuilders, for example, they spend countless hours hitting the weights. They literally work out like it's their job and that's why their body is extremely masculine looking. Do you have to dedicate ALL of your time and effort to fitness in order to look like that? In reality, yes. However, they take it to extremes in order to look good. You don't need to do that. You can look good with just a decent amount of time working out.

Again, genetics plays a role in how well one can build muscle, regardless if you're a man or woman, pre-T or on T, it's just how nature is.. sadly. That doesn't make it impossible though. With the right technique, training, eating right, and performing exercises that are specific to your goals, you will see nice results regardless if you are a beginner or an experienced lifter. If you have never seriously worked out before, you want to start out small and gradually build your way up to more advanced exercises. You will also probably need to do some experimenting on what works and doesn't work for you. There are plenty of body weight exercises that you can easily do at home such as push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups dips, etc to start off with. If you can only do a couple of push-ups, then start out with that. If you can only do 2, do 2 and try to work your way up each day. The next day try to do 3, then the next do 4, 5, 6 and so on. You may also want to consider investing some money into a pull-up bar. You can easily purchase one at a sporting goods store for about $30 bucks. After you've begun gradually working on body weight exercises and you feel comfortable with your workouts, maybe start looking into a gym membership so you have access to some equipment to perform more advanced workouts as you become more serious with your strength.

As for losing weight, I think the most important thing is that it will help decrease excess fat in feminine areas such as the chest, hips, thighs, and butt and those can be big factors when it comes to physically passing. I'm not entirely sure how it will effect your face, but I assume that depending on the amount of weight you have to lose will determine how much of that weight will be lost from your face. Perhaps maybe weight loss in your face will help make it appear more square or chiseled, thus making it appear more masculine. Just a food for thought.

Ultimately, you have to do what you feel is right for your body, happiness, and what you feel will help your passing game in the long run.

If you have any more questions, feel free to e-mail me or send me a PM.
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em444

wow Alexclusive you sure are knowledgeable about this subject, thank you so much for explaining everything so clearly, I will definitely go for the muscles then!
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insideontheoutside

5'2" here (and sometimes I do wear boots that boost that an inch). But like alexclusive says, it's about confidence too. The general way you carry yourself has a lot to do with overall presence (not just physically how tall you are). Find things that boost your confidence and you may find that you worry less about being short.

There are regular guys who are under 5'5" ... plenty of them are famous people too. It's genetics more than it is gender really. Sure, there's "averages", but even the male average is only 5'9" I believe. Sometimes when I'm out I happen to notice quite a few guys who are around my height.
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ttim0324

I wear lifts. It was annoying at first having to take them out whenever I changed into a new pair of shoes, but you get used to it.

A few months ago I said casually, "Well I'm only 5'5" to which a friend replied "Really? I thought you were taller. It doesn't feel like you're 5'5"." confidence is key!
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maximusloverus

I stand at about 5'5" 5'6" on a good day and im still seen as short. Boots do help with giving a little lift and can help with pant length so they dont look too long for you. There are alot of guys that are short. I used to work with a guy and he was 5'3" but he didnt let that bother him. Work out and get the stocky build that should help too. Other than that use humor.
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em444

Thank you so much guys, I'm glad to see there are so many of us who are not that tall and that it's not only me. The advices are great and I will definitely put them to practice  :D
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notyouraverageguy

Quote from: Mr.X on November 08, 2013, 04:02:18 AM
Hmm, deal with it? I don't think one can. I just accept it because I have to, but that's it. I'm 5,1 too, I think (American measurements, argh!) and I live in the land of giants (the Netherlands, average guy is at least 6' here. Women and men are almost always taller than I am) so yeah....It's all relative. It feels like a double stab from nature, making me trans and on top of that, way shorter than even the average female. I've been wondering if just moving away to a country that doesn't have giants would help.


I can't deal, its a huge part of my depression and dysphoria. I just try to accept that its something I can't change. That doesn't work, so I try to ignore it but its hard to ignore when I'm constantly reminded. I'm shorter than all of you, shorter than all men all women and most kids. Not a legal midget though but very short. I also feel like its a huge burden on top of being trans.
On top of that I'm also not skinny,  nature stabbed me with that one too, so finding short wide clothes is nearly impossible. I can't buy men's clothes I have to get boys shirts so I'm not drowning in them. Pants are a whole different story, all of them have to be folded, and I usually have to get womens skinny jeans to fit right, but they're still too long. All you guys taller than 5'2" have it good, especially if you have normal or skinny builds.
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LordKAT

As I stated before, my twins father wasn't even 5'. He had no issues with buying clothes in the boy dept, and even joked that he got clothes cheaper and more variety to choose from. He wasn't exactly skinny either.

Some men are short, that is just the way it is.
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chuck

Quote from: alexclusive on November 08, 2013, 10:37:06 PM
Anytime man.
As for your questions:

While not being on T does give quite a setback when it comes to building muscle, that doesn't mean that you can't build a significant amount. It may just take twice the amount of time, and a lot of harder work. When you look at female bodybuilders, for example, they spend countless hours hitting the weights. They literally work out like it's their job and that's why their body is extremely masculine looking. Do you have to dedicate ALL of your time and effort to fitness in order to look like that? In reality, yes. However, they take it to extremes in order to look good. You don't need to do that. You can look good with just a decent amount of time working out.


Nope. Female bodybuilders look masculine because they use steroids ( ie testosterone). It is possible to build some muscle without excess testosterone, but just to be realistic and not give false hope, you still need testosterone to achieve a female bodybuilder type body. Even competitors for natural bodybuilding contests often use steroids but cycle off before the urine test. 

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alexclusive

Quote from: chuck on November 10, 2013, 01:23:00 AM
Nope. Female bodybuilders look masculine because they use steroids ( ie testosterone). It is possible to build some muscle without excess testosterone, but just to be realistic and not give false hope, you still need testosterone to achieve a female bodybuilder type body. Even competitors for natural bodybuilding contests often use steroids but cycle off before the urine test.

I disagree. It's your word against mine, but I personally know a female bodybuilder. She is a family friend of ours that I'm very close with, and I know for a fact that she does not use steroids or any form of testosterone or performance-enhancing drugs. She looks great, and her body fat is below 8% which is not too shabby, at all, for a woman. She often competes in competitions and does pretty well. She actually just recently competed in a local competition in NYC and made the top 3. I think she came in 2nd. I'm not sure, you can probably look her up. Her name is Swann Cardot. In all honesty, in some of her pictures, she looks like she's raging on 'roids, but she isn't because her voice is very female-sounding and she has not grown any facial hair compared to others like her who have witnessed testosterone-like changes by using performance-enhancing drugs. Don't get me wrong, some of these bodybuilders, male or female do use them. However, not all of them.

So, I mean, it's all matter of opinion, but I personally don't consider my statements as giving false hope, but more like if someone really wanted to achieve a certain look, it's not impossible if they put in the time and effort. Is it easy? No, it will take twice if not more times the work if you don't have certain hormones such as testosterone working in your favor. That's the suckish part. But you don't have to go as far as Swann or others do. Not even nearly. One can still achieve a very good look or a look just enough for them to help pass with the right diet and exercise. You don't have to dedicate your whole life to fitness, but hey.. if that's something you want to do, then by all means, good for you.   
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