Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 2.0

[llerret]

Here is a youtube video I made a month or so ago talking about my transition thus far. Maybe this could help you all notice what gives me away.

[llerret]

I can't see anything either so I'll take a guess
You're very glamorous perhaps too glamorous to be cis? I love your look but you are on the road to drag queen levels with the makeup.
You wear a lot of make up/shading, That can emphasise any chiseled feature you may have.
It's covered well and I can't see any bossing but you have a projection above your nose and you wear dark shading above your inner eye which could potentially emphasise the projection.
Watched your video which makes you look even better but you use your hands a loooot. Make sure you don't slip into flamboyant.
How tall are you?

Thank you for the critique. I am seen as very glamourous or whatever but I mean..... cis women can be glam too lol like what? And I'm 5'8" tall

[llerret]

from your pictures it's not your face. I don't know but there are guys that will do that to girls just to be jerks and has nothing to do with looks.

Hmmm, I don't know. I just wish I could figure it out

[llerret]

Yeah I gotta say, I have no doubt that you pass facially, given your photos, but like Victoria says, the photos are very well composed, but do not show any of your body proportions, or the way in which you move or talk.

But it's not your face I'll tell you that for free 🙂

Unfortunately I can't comment any further without seeing some more natural photos or a video of you in action Xx

I just placed a video on here

[Jessica Merriman]

Hi llerret! I watched the video and I think I know what is wrong. It is voice the same problem I have. Most of the time it is female, but occasionally it gets deep just like mine when I try to talk too fast or get really nervous or emotional. I have fought it so hard myself, but other than that you are adorable and give no real outward signs people could pick up on. Only my opinion though. 🙂

[llerret]

Okay, calm down and *breathe*. I can't say anything from your pics. That said, your pics are very... well, they're very well composed. I can't see anything about anything regarding your body, your shoulders, anything. Everything is a glamor shot. So... let's do a little test, shall we? Record a video of you from a distance which will show your whole body in what you would typically wear out on the street. Just talk about something. Anything. Actually, talk about this particular thing and then upload it to vimeo with a random title ("a box tube circle blue three") and post the link here. That'll be enough to at least try to look at the issue in full. You can delete the vid when we're done with the feedback.

I just uploaded a video. I have another uploading on vimeo of me standing and showing my body and stuff that I just took but it says I have to wait 44 minutes lol

[llerret]

Hi llerret! I watched the video and I think I know what is wrong. It is voice the same problem I have. Most of the time it is female, but occasionally it gets deep just like mine when I try to talk too fast or get really nervous or emotional. I have fought it so hard myself, but other than that you are adorable and give no real outward signs people could pick up on. Only my opinion though.

It may be the voice, yes, but I am talking about when I am randomly walking down the street. I'm not speaking or anything. So it's not the voice in that instance

[llerret]

Your chin is the biggest indicator to me in that picture. It is vertically longer than the average female, well within the male range. Put your thumb over your chin in that picture and then remove it. You'll see what I mean. Your nose isn't too bad, but a reduction/refinement could help improve your feminine appearance as well.

There may be other masculine markers, but I can't tell with just the frontal pov. A profile and 3/4 view would help.


I should say that this is getting very nit picky. I think you look wonderful, but if you say people are clocking you all the time (not sure why) then that's all I can see for it.

Edit: Actually, I'm going to hold off judgement on your chin. I've looked at your other pictures where it isn't as pronounced as well as compared your chin to several celebrity women smiling the same way. I think it's just this picture.

I uploaded a video if that helps

[vlmitchell]

Okay... well, the video explains some things to me. Do you want the feedback here or in a PM?

[llerret]

Here's another video. I think in this one I see why I don't pass. When I'm far away, my chest/shoulder regain looked super bulky.

[stephaniec]

Here's another video. I think in this one I see why I don't pass. When I'm far away, my chest/shoulder regain looked super bulky

yea, I suppose if your hips were more proportional it would help.

[Gandalf]

Illerret: Regarding your face I think the makeup/style is great. Your eyes are quite small, you could try wearing large-frame glasses to "mask" the size of your eyes.

When you walk try to be more dynamic with your shoulders, guys are generally more stiff in their upper bodies. Have a "fluid motion"

[piglet smith]

my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.



She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...

[Shantel]

my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.

She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...

She does as long as she eats the icing from the center first, other than that I dunno!

[Jessica Merriman]

my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.



She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...

Well I think your friend Oreo could pass, but needs a little work. There is a piece missing on the outer cookie letting the creamy filling show, but other that that it passes. A good Keebler Elf surgeon should be able to fix it nicely.

Yes, your REAL "friend" passes very well. I would have picked cis myself. Good job! You look very good. 🙂

[piglet smith]

Well I think your friend Oreo could pass, but needs a little work. There is a piece missing on the outer cookie letting the creamy filling show, but other that that it passes. A good Keebler Elf surgeon should be able to fix it nicely.

Yes, your REAL "friend" passes very well. I would have picked cis myself. Good job! You look very good.

The oreo likes being half naked.

And thanks, my "friend" turned 51 earlier this week and was kind of depressed about it for a few days, but she's better today.

[Shantel]

The oreo likes being half naked.

And thanks, my "friend" turned 51 earlier this week and was kind of depressed about it for a few days, but she's better today.

Tell her we think she's a doll! Anyway, just a kid yet close to 19 years my junior.

[Sephirah]

The oreo likes being half naked.

And thanks, my "friend" turned 51 earlier this week and was kind of depressed about it for a few days, but she's better today.

Your "friend" doesn't look a day over 40.

[Nero]

my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.



She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...

I knew that was you! And honestly, she's an attractive woman. I don't know what all the swamp monster stuff is about.

[stephaniec]

my "friend" is curious if she passes or not. Be brutally honest too, its not like she's got any self esteem to worry about crushing anyway.



She has her oreos, so she's happy regardless...

your friends not helping curb my eating habits