I was kinda bummed that everything didn't work out for me getting my first stp. Funds just weren't there so I looked online for cheaper way to do it. I knew the medicine spoon wouldn't really work for me and everything else just seemed awkward to work with. Just as I was about to give up and cry from frustration to the heavens asking why I was the one going through this I found one last idea. It was a DIY stp device made from a milk jug handle. It looked good and given that my work throws away quite a few of those it was free to make. I was worried at first if it would work for me but thank god I can now pee standing up and if feels wonderful. I feel like my self esteem has gone up by 50 points! viva la standing peeing people!!!!